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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:33 PM

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If you ever find yourself in a Florida courtroom facing Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Jorge Rodriguez-Chomat, don't give him any lip — and certainly don't flip him the bird.

Penelope Soto, 18, who was arrested for drug possession, learned that Monday, when she irritated the judge with her insouciant attitude — flipping her hair, laughing derisively, dodging questions. Miffed, the judge slapped Soto with a $5,000 fine and bid her "bye-bye." Soto laughed and responded, "Adios," so he upped her fine to $10,000.

"Are you serious?" the teen asked. "I am serious. Adios," said the judge. Soto gave him the finger, at which point he sentenced her to 30 days in jail for contempt of court. And yes, he was serious.



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Now she has 30 days to "come down" off the drugs and think about what an idiot she was.

If there's any justice in the world, Lindsay Lohan will commit her next violations of the law in his county.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:41 PM

He should have also forced her to go into rehab, starting day one of her sentence.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:52 PM

He should have also forced her to go into rehab, starting day one of her sentence.


I'm not so sure about rehab. I read a story that had a teenage girl there for marjiuana and met a heroine addict. After rehab she ended up moving from a lesser evil to the worst.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:55 PM

I see and have to talk to these idiots a lot. People have no idea how serious life is outside a video game.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:57 PM

Overkill considering her age. I think some community service might have been more appropriate here.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:03 PM

Awesome, too bad we couldn't see her reaction at the end.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:12 PM

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For anyone that wonders why both drug laws are ridiculous and US prisons/jails are too full, especially with criminals that shouldn't even be there, wonder no more..

All she did was say "Adios" and that was response to him condescendingly dismissing her, big whoop. Tack on $5,000 bail for that? Wow. Good job there judge in escalating a conflict.

Yeah lesson learned, don't screw with power tripping judges.

Doubling someone's bail for "Adios", then sending them to jail because you were an ass and they gave you the finger and told you to frack yourself.. what an embarrassment.

Edited by zaibatsu, 05 February 2013 - 05:16 PM.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:17 PM

I guess you could say she flipped him the "jail-bird".
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:17 PM

She would've been given a conditional sentence in Vancouver :P
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:20 PM

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For anyone that wonders why both drug laws are ridiculous and US prisons/jails are too full, especially with criminals that shouldn't even be there, wonder no more..

All she did was say "Adios" and that was response to him condescendingly dismissing her, big whoop. Tack on $5,000 bail for that? Wow. Good job there judge in escalating a conflict.

Yeah lesson learned, don't screw with power tripping judges.

Doubling someone's bail for "Adios", then sending them to jail because you were an ass and they gave you the finger and told you to frack yourself.. what an embarrassment.


It's about attitude.......and obviously this mouthy teenager was not getting the message. She's old enough to know better and kudos to the judge for giving her something to think about while she sits in jail for 30 days. She should have just shut her face after the "Adios" with attitude. And it must have been with attitude as I seriously doubt the judge would have upped the bail otherwise. As stated in the article, this prime exhibit of teenagerhood was behaving badly all during her time in front of the judge.

Bravo, judge!! More judges need to be doing this!

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:20 PM

For anyone that wonders why both drug laws are ridiculous and US prisons/jails are too full, especially with criminals that shouldn't even be there, wonder no more..

All she did was say "Adios" and that was response to him condescendingly dismissing her, big whoop. Tack on $5,000 bail for that? Wow. Good job there judge in escalating a conflict.

Yeah lesson learned, don't screw with power tripping judges.

Doubling someone's bail for "Adios", then sending them to jail because you were an ass and they gave you the finger and told you to frack yourself.. what an embarrassment.

a large part of me agrees with you, but the absolute power of judges is something you should know before your age 10...to still mess around like its a joke with one as your sitting there trying to get bail is something that deserves the book thrown at her for....just my opinion but i want to choke the ever living crud out of kids that flip me off....30 days in jail for doing it to a judge as he judges you is pretty light.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:25 PM

a large part of me agrees with you, but the absolute power of judges is something you should know before your age 10...to still mess around like its a joke with one as your sitting there trying to get bail is something that deserves the book thrown at her for....just my opinion but i want to choke the ever living crud out of kids that flip me off....30 days in jail for doing it to a judge as he judges you is pretty light.


Agreed, you'd have to be pretty dumb/ignorant to act like that in front of a judge.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:27 PM

Agreed, you'd have to be pretty dumb/ignorant to act like that in front of a judge.

it has been my experience that there are a lot of dumb/ignorant people roaming around.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:29 PM

it has been my experience that there are a lot of dumb/ignorant people roaming around.


Haha, I bet.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:29 PM

It's about attitude.......and obviously this mouthy teenager was not getting the message. She's old enough to know better and kudos to the judge for giving her something to think about while she sits in jail for 30 days. She should have just shut her face after the "Adios" with attitude. And it must have been with attitude as I seriously doubt the judge would have upped the fine otherwise. As stated in the article, this prime exhibit of teenagerhood was behaving badly all during her time in front of the judge.

Bravo, judge!! More judges need to be doing this!


So are we to pretend that her serving 30 days somehow benefits society? Makes us safer? Saves us money? What exactly does it accomplish? Why do you feel it's appropriate to up the fine for attitude?

More of the court's time was spent calling her back and "teaching her a lesson" than if the judge didn't care how kids wearing orange jumpsuits are behaving.

I agree with Zaibatsu here, a moronic justice system on display.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:35 PM

So are we to pretend that her serving 30 days somehow benefits society? Makes us safer? Saves us money? What exactly does it accomplish? Why do you feel it's appropriate to up the fine for attitude?

More of the court's time was spent calling her back and "teaching her a lesson" than if the judge didn't care how kids wearing orange jumpsuits are behaving.

I agree with Zaibatsu here, a moronic justice system on display.

it was not a fine - it was her bond. She is yet to have a trial as this was first appearance.

Judges have a right to control their in court process which they do by means of contempt proceedings and 30 days for criminal contempt is pure punishment and to teach her a lesson in how to conduct herself. It is not meant to be anything else. It looked to me like a lesson that needed to be taught.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:36 PM

So are we to pretend that her serving 30 days somehow benefits society? Makes us safer? Saves us money? What exactly does it accomplish? Why do you feel it's appropriate to up the fine for attitude?

More of the court's time was spent calling her back and "teaching her a lesson" than if the judge didn't care how kids wearing orange jumpsuits are behaving.

I agree with Zaibatsu here, a moronic justice system on display.


So you let three blatant episodes of disrespect to the court, to the judge and downright insolence just go by? Oh right, she's really learned something now, which is probably the problem to begin with, she'd been getting away with it for years. 18 is old enough to know better.......and now she has 30 days to sit in jail and think about it. And have a record. For something that was purely within her control to avoid. Suck it up princess, these consequences are a direct result of your own bad behavior. More people need to be made to accept the consequences of their behavior, then perhaps they wonn't be standing before a judge to begin with.

Benefit society? Maybe she'll think twice before being rude and disrespectful in a court of law. And learn the lesson that acting like a rude, disrespectful, spoiled, self-entitled little brat in court will land you in a jail cell for 30 days. A change in attitude is in order and this 30 day reminder of such is obviously what she needs or she wouldn't be sitting in a cell to start with. And that change of attitude will ultimately benefit society as a whole....anyone who ever has to interact with her in the future.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:39 PM

it was not a fine - it was her bond. She is yet to have a trial as this was first appearance.

Judges have a right to control their in court process which they do by means of contempt proceedings and 30 days for criminal contempt is pure punishment and to teach her a lesson in how to conduct herself. It is not meant to be anything else. It looked to me like a lesson that needed to be taught.


I was addressing BB's statement, not the article's:

And it must have been with attitude as I seriously doubt the judge would have upped the fine otherwise


I'm not disputing the ability to do what the judge did, I am questioning the benefit of such powers. What is this more likely to achieve, respect for authority that punishes disproportionately (or fear, to be more precise) or a good future behavior by a borderline juvenile delinquent?
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So you let three blatant episodes of disrespect to the court, to the judge and downright insolence just go by? Oh right, she's really learned something now, which is probably the problem to begin with, she'd been getting away with it for years. 18 is old enough to know better.......and now she has 30 days to sit in jail and think about it. And have a record. For something that was purely within her control to avoid. Suck it up princess, these consequences are a direct result of your own bad behavior. More people need to be made to accept the consequences of their behavior, then perhaps they wonn't be standing before a judge to begin with.

Benefit society? Maybe she'll think twice before being rude and disrespectful in a court of law. And learn the lesson that acting like a rude, disrespectful, spoiled, self-entitled little brat in court will land you in a jail cell for 30 days. A change in attitude is in order and this 30 day reminder of such is obviously what she needs or she wouldn't be sitting in a cell to start with.


I think it's important to note why she was in front of the judge in the first place: drug possession. Her non-victimizing behavior is criminalized, and you expect her to show respect to a power-tripping authority? Let's not profile a girl based on an article, maybe she had a rough life, maybe she got away with everything, maybe she got raped and gave up caring. Your post reads just plain vindictive. Prison time over respect? Goddamn, in what world does that sound right? Give her community service and mandatory counselling for 30 days, don't throw her in jail.

Yes, benefit society. I bet she'll come out smarter in that she won't get caught next time, not that she'll be an upstanding member of society.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:45 PM

I was addressing BB's statement, not the article's:



I'm not disputing the ability to do what the judge did, I am questioning the benefit of such powers. What is this more likely to achieve, respect for authority that punishes disproportionately (or fear, to be more precise) or a good future behavior by a borderline juvenile delinquent?

This person is 18 and is in adult court.

She did not respond to the softer approach of increased bail, so 30 days for contempt seems the way to go IMHO.

Lesson to be learned... actions have consequences.

This seems an effective teaching aid.
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This person is 18 and is in adult court.

She did not respond to the softer approach of increased bail, so 30 days for contempt seems the way to go IMHO.

Lesson to be learned... actions have consequences.

This seems an effective teaching aid.


Yes... an 18 year old with a record and a 10,000 debt to the court - way to start an adult life. All for saying "Adios" and fingering a prick in a black robe.

The only lesson here is not to talk back to authority. Most valuable lesson in North American society these days.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:49 PM

Yeah, I can see why he did this, but I don't see how this is going to help the individual.

Clearly she has attitude issues and while jail might help her, very few people come out of jail and immediately turn into a changed person.

She should have been thrown into boot camp for some ass-whooping.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:50 PM

I think it's important to note why she was in front of the judge in the first place: drug possession. Her non-victimizing behavior is criminalized, and you expect her to show respect to a power-tripping authority? Let's not profile a girl based on an article, maybe she had a rough life, maybe she got away with everything, maybe she got raped and gave up caring. Your post reads just plain vindictive. Prison time over respect? Goddamn, in what world does that sound right? Give her community service and mandatory counselling for 30 days, don't throw her in jail.

Yes, benefit society. I bet she'll come out smarter in that she won't get caught next time, not that she'll be an upstanding member of society.


She. Broke. The. Law. which is why she was in court to begin with. An adult court. And then, she was in contempt of court..not just once, but several times. This isn't a debate about non-victimization, it is about a mouthy teenager who showed blatant disrespect to a judge and the court. And she did it repeatedly despite the first punitive measure. She behaved stupidly, rudely, insolently and disrespectfully and is old enough to know she should have got her act together long before her bail hit the $5000 mark. It's the consequences of her actions and bad behavior. Nobody made her behave that way, just her. So what if her life was hard? At 18 you have a measure of right and wrong and she clearly knew what she was doing when she flipped the judge the bird. Consequences of your behavior....not just one instance of it, but several. She obviously was not getting the message but now I'm betting she does. 30 days, princess......enjoy.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:51 PM

That's awesome. She got what she deserved.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:51 PM

I think it's important to note why she was in front of the judge in the first place: drug possession. Her non-victimizing behavior is criminalized, and you expect her to show respect to a power-tripping authority? Let's not profile a girl based on an article, maybe she had a rough life, maybe she got away with everything, maybe she got raped and gave up caring. Your post reads just plain vindictive. Prison time over respect? Goddamn, in what world does that sound right? Give her community service and mandatory counselling for 30 days, don't throw her in jail.

Yes, benefit society. I bet she'll come out smarter in that she won't get caught next time, not that she'll be an upstanding member of society.

Power tripping authority??? You seem to have much to learn, Grasshopper much like Ms. Soto. Regardless of her supposed personal circumstances you do not act this way in court or treat any judge in this manner.

This is not a trial so the judge sent her to jail for criminal contempt.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:52 PM

It would be easier to show judges respect if judges showed respect.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:54 PM

Power tripping authority??? You seem to have much to learn, Grasshopper much like Ms. Soto. Regardless of her supposed personal circumstances you do not act this way in court or treat any judge in this manner.

This is not a trial so the judge sent her to jail for criminal contempt.


No, I'm well aware of how to behave around judges. She'll do 30 days for disrespect - that is absurd. Yes, I understand the legal ability, I question purpose.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:54 PM

Because jail is a place where people learn to be respectful of others...
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:55 PM

It would be easier to show judges respect if judges showed respect.


So how was this particular judge disrespectful to this teenager prior to the contempt of court?
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:59 PM

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