Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. Abraham Lincoln Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 She may not be truly sorry for her actions but she sure as hell learned not to frack around in a court room. It was a great success, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I was merely inferring that a "black and white" view of the world is very debilitating, especially in situations like this. By the letter...by the book...trite, boring, dull....if you can't see any other colors how can you ever expect to see a rainbow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I see all sorts of shades of grey - that is what one is trained to do as a lawyer - hunt the distinctions. One of the first courses at law school is "Hair Splitting 101". "My Lord, the Plaintiff in that case was left-handed and as the evidence most clearly shows my client is right-handed so the precedent value of the case cited by my learned friend is much reduced." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpcurtly Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 If you consider that she has learnt that lying will help you escape from taking responsibilty for your actions , then yes it was a great success . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 It's apparently escaped your notice that LAW IS IMPERFECT. Get that through your head first and then we can have a civil discussion on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 "I have no problems seeing from multiple points of view" Yet you refuse to address this judge's history of temper issues, his being called incompetent, and my god are you blind if you didn't notice he had a chip on his shoulder when the entire situation started. The video of this incident doesn't lie...the guy very clearly has an attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 There is more to the world than legal principles and law . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. Abraham Lincoln Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I have never said the law is perfect. I simply set out how it functions in a given case. Call it the realist's approach. In a criminal contempt in the face of the court situation the judge has virtually untrammelled discretion to exercise his inherent jurisdiction to control the process of his court and that discretion is not subject to appeal. I see little chance of a civil or any discussion with someone who has demonstrated a clear ability to misapprehend the applicable facts, the law and legal principles that are at issue in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I do not address it because it is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Not in a courtroom. It is kind of the whole enchilada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 To be fair, though.....that works both ways....... on the side of the law, too Until .you've walked a mile in THEIR shoes..and view this type of thing from their perspective..your opinion is one-sided, and should be taken with a grain of salt...........both ways, it works both ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 And you use "legal principles" loosely. I don't see many principles here, other than going so far to be a douche and wasting the time of two more court/bail hearings to un-do this judge's stupidity.. over nothing. Much theatre with no consideration of a backlogged court system, or crowded jails, due to ego. If this backfires and causes "adios, judge" to be a fad as ronthecivil explained earlier, it would be much better justice and teach this judge (who is in dire need of) a lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Oh right, I forgot we are in a courtroom now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I was not fooled although it seemed a number of posters here were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 You don't address it because you conveniently avoid it. It's a mitigating factor, and it does deserve to be addressed, whether YOU feel it does or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 · Hidden by canuck2xtreme, February 9, 2013 - Hidden instead of deleted so SuperMods can view it. Pretty obvious trolling... I notice that a lot from this guy Hidden by canuck2xtreme, February 9, 2013 - Hidden instead of deleted so SuperMods can view it. Pretty obvious trolling... I notice that a lot from this guy *lalalalala I can't hear you because I have reached my daily limit for BS...try again tomorrow.* Link to comment
inane Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Since that was the setting for the subject matter of this thread and where it played out, I would have thought that was obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 She probably learnt that a long time ago. And I'm not talking about her lying(which may or may not be true). I am talking about her taking court appearances seriously. Does that not seem to have worked to you? Whether she is BSing or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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