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#1 Patrick Jane

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:22 PM

TO VAN:
Jordin Tootoo

TO Detroit:
Keith Ballard

Ive seen in lots of proposal's to trade ballard for a pick.

But why not grab a tough guy that can also do some bone crushing hits. He is an exciting player to watch and then at least we will have somebody who can really fight. I mean yes kassian can fight a little and volpatta can too, but Tootoo is super tough and can get the crowd going.

I just dont know if detroit would even consider it, now the fans love Tootoo.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:27 PM

Why not keep Ballard as he is playing great rather than trade him for a 4th liner who doesn't bring anything that we don't already have and will struggle for icetime??

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:28 PM


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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:30 PM

Why not keep Ballard as he is playing great rather than trade him for a 4th liner who doesn't bring anything that we don't already have and will struggle for icetime??

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Nobody on the canucks brings what tootoo has. And to keep going forward for a stanely cup run we are going to have to get rid of some cap space, so the canucks can sign key players.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:31 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znuYertkcX0


We would be here all day if i kept showing tootoo hits.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:39 PM

Nobody on the canucks brings what tootoo has. And to keep going forward for a stanely cup run we are going to have to get rid of some cap space, so the canucks can sign key players.


Going for a cup run with more cap space doesn't help us. A cup run with Alberts or Barker in the top 6 also doesn't help us, infact it hurts us.

Volpatti and Weise bring pretty much the same thing. Volpatti especially.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:42 PM

Going for a cup run with more cap space doesn't help us. A cup run with Alberts or Barker in the top 6 also doesn't help us, infact it hurts us.

Volpatti and Weise bring pretty much the same thing. Volpatti especially.


Tootoo would destroy volpattia and weise in a fight. But I doubt Detroit would say yes to the trade cause Fans go crazy for him right now. and i doubt we will win the cup this year, unless we make some big changes to get playoff performers.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:43 PM

Tootoo would destroy volpattia and weise in a fight. But I doubt Detroit would say yes to the trade cause Fans go crazy for him right now. and i doubt we will win the cup this year, unless we make some big changes to get playoff performers.

I honestly doubt Tootoo would "destroy" Volpatti in a fight, he is tough yes. But he wouldn't kill him.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:43 PM

Nobody on the canucks brings what tootoo has. And to keep going forward for a stanely cup run we are going to have to get rid of some cap space, so the canucks can sign key players.


I like the way your thinking, Ballard needs to go for alot of reasons and you are stated the #1 reason
most CDC users dont understand the business aspect of the game. at the nhl level its no longer just a sport its sports entertainment, The NHL is a business


Why not keep Ballard as he is playing great rather than trade him for a 4th liner who doesn't bring anything that we don't already have and will struggle for icetime??

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a) Ballard isn't playing great, Tanev and him have developed some good chemistry. Tanev is making Ballard look good
b ) good thing your not a GM, the perfect time to sell is when your stock is on the raise.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:47 PM

Going for a cup run with more cap space doesn't help us. A cup run with Alberts or Barker in the top 6 also doesn't help us, infact it hurts us.

Volpatti and Weise bring pretty much the same thing. Volpatti especially.


Gillis is has to worry about future cup runs too not just 2013.
Tootoo for ballard is a good trade for both organizations
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:51 PM

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a) Ballard isn't playing great, Tanev and him have developed some good chemistry. Tanev is making Ballard look good
b ) good thing your not a GM, the perfect time to sell is when your stock is on the raise.


:lol: I see you have been watching the games. If you think Ballard hasn't played great I don't even want to know how badly you think Bieksa has played.

Good thing I'm not GM, well our GM is doing the same thing as I would, not trading an important part of our team for a 4th liner who is redundant and would struggle for ice time.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:53 PM

Gillis is has to worry about future cup runs too not just 2013.
Tootoo for ballard is a good trade for both organizations


Good trade for Detriot, terrible for us. We can trade Ballard later if we must. But right now he is of greater need for a cup run.

Tootoo would destroy volpattia and weise in a fight. But I doubt Detroit would say yes to the trade cause Fans go crazy for him right now. and i doubt we will win the cup this year, unless we make some big changes to get playoff performers.


Detriot would accept.

And I'm not sure how Tootoo is a "playoff preformer", especially when he would get little to no ice time in the playoffs if we had made this deal. All this is is a step back for us.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:54 PM

:lol: I see you have been watching the games. If you think Ballard hasn't played great I don't even want to know how badly you think Bieksa has played.

Good thing I'm not GM, well our GM is doing the same thing as I would, not trading an important part of our team for a 4th liner who is redundant and would struggle for ice time.

:lol: I see you have been watching the games. If you think Ballard hasn't played great I don't even want to know how badly you think Bieksa has played.

Good thing I'm not GM, well our GM is doing the same thing as I would, not trading an important part of our team for a 4th liner who is redundant and would struggle for ice time.


Man We will see and if tootoo hurts one of the sedins, who will step in? No one will cause we dont have any actaul fighters.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:59 PM

Man We will see and if tootoo hurts one of the sedins, who will step in? No one will cause we dont have any actaul fighters.


Lol, why on earth would Detriot put there 4th line up against the Sedins? :lol:

Oh and we do have this guy on there line that would gladly step in:


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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:02 PM

Lol, why on earth would Detriot put there 4th line up against the Sedins? :lol:

Oh and we do have this guy on there line that would gladly step in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfuU_bay0kE

Lol, why on earth would Detriot put there 4th line up against the Sedins? :lol:

Oh and we do have this guy on there line that would gladly step in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfuU_bay0kE


Ya and he will hold on for dear life and look like a fool, just like burrows did when he fought tootoo, Just sayin all teams last couple of years that have won the stanely cup have had regular fighters on the team and we dont have one of them.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:11 PM

Ya and he will hold on for dear life and look like a fool, just like burrows did when he fought tootoo, Just sayin all teams last couple of years that have won the stanely cup have had regular fighters on the team and we dont have one of them.


I doubt that, he dropped Sesito, he's a tough guy, game Eager a concussion, he has fought alot of these guys, if he has the balls to take on Clowe, I don't think he would have an issue with fighting Tootoo.

Regluar fighters that have stayed in the line-up?

And actually you are wrong, we have one, Vandermeer. And you can bet he will be called up.

But to think trading one of our best defenseman for a 4th liner who would barely play would be beneficial. That's not just not a good move for us.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:14 PM

:lol: I see you have been watching the games. If you think Ballard hasn't played great I don't even want to know how badly you think Bieksa has played.

Good thing I'm not GM, well our GM is doing the same thing as I would, not trading an important part of our team for a 4th liner who is redundant and would struggle for ice time.


Ballard has 0 points, he not playing great ....... Tanev is making ballard look good this is the perfect time to trade him

Tootoo isnt redundant if you now anything about business , this would be a very smart move for the canucks. BC's strong aboriginal community would embrace him. I bet his jersey sales alone and marketing into the community would be worth it for the Aquillini's to do this trade
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:15 PM

I doubt that, he dropped Sesito, he's a tough guy, game Eager a concussion, he has fought alot of these guys, if he has the balls to take on Clowe, I don't think he would have an issue with fighting Tootoo.

Regluar fighters that have stayed in the line-up?

And actually you are wrong, we have one, Vandermeer. And you can bet he will be called up.

But to think trading one of our best defenseman for a 4th liner who would barely play would be beneficial. That's not just not a good move for us.


We are going to have to trade at leat one of our d-man and its either garrison, bieska, ballard and one goalie. So the Canucks can spend some for free agency to pick up key players for a stanely cup run because we dont have a playoff team.

And you should look up tootoo fights cause hes a lot tougher than you think.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:17 PM

I doubt that, he dropped Sesito, he's a tough guy, game Eager a concussion, he has fought alot of these guys, if he has the balls to take on Clowe, I don't think he would have an issue with fighting Tootoo.

Regluar fighters that have stayed in the line-up?

And actually you are wrong, we have one, Vandermeer. And you can bet he will be called up.

But to think trading one of our best defenseman for a 4th liner who would barely play would be beneficial. That's not just not a good move for us.


::D your one to talk questioning if i actually watch games or not
kassian gave Eager the concussion
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:20 PM

Ballard has 0 points, he not playing great ....... Tanev is making ballard look good this is the perfect time to trade him

Tootoo isnt redundant if you now anything about business , this would be a very smart move for the canucks. BC's strong aboriginal community would embrace him. I bet his jersey sales alone and marketing into the community would be worth it for the Aquillini's to do this trade

Points don't equal good play....
And you're wrong, Ballard has been stellar.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:21 PM

We are going to have to trade at leat one of our d-man and its either garrison, bieska, ballard and one goalie. So the Canucks can spend some for free agency to pick up key players for a stanely cup run because we dont have a playoff team.

And you should look up tootoo fights cause hes a lot tougher than you think.


That's in the offseason. And we do have a goalie with a huge contract that we are eager to get rid of. Don't worry things will happen but we won't lose a key piece of our team for a redundant piece we don't need.

::D your one to talk questioning if i actually watch games or not
kassian gave Eager the concussion


Pointed out a spelling error.

You really got me good.

Ballard has 0 points, he not playing great ....... Tanev is making ballard look good this is the perfect time to trade him

Tootoo isnt redundant if you now anything about business , this would be a very smart move for the canucks. BC's strong aboriginal community would embrace him. I bet his jersey sales alone and marketing into the community would be worth it for the Aquillini's to do this trade


I guess you haven't been watching, did you see our game against Chicago? Tanev had a few huge giveaways. Ballard played a rock solid game.

Oh and Ballard has 0 points, must be terrible, how many points does Tootoo have again?

Tootoo isn't needed, we have Vandermeer, trading away an important piece of the team to get a 4th liner who is redundant makes no sense for us when we have guys who do the same thing. Especially when Tootoo would struggle to crack the line-up.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:24 PM

That's in the offseason. And we do have a goalie with a huge contract that we are eager to get rid of. Don't worry things will happen but we won't lose a key piece of our team for a redundant piece we don't need.



Pointed out a spelling error.

You really got me good.



I guess you haven't been watching, did you see our game against Chicago? Tanev had a few huge giveaways. Ballard played a rock solid game.

Oh and Ballard has 0 points, must be terrible, how many points does Tootoo have again?

Tootoo isn't needed, we have Vandermeer, trading away an important piece of the team to get a 4th liner who is redundant makes no sense for us when we have guys who do the same thing. Especially when Tootoo would struggle to crack the line-up.


HAHA Vandermeer wont even play. Either volpatta starts fighting more or we are going to need one.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:26 PM

HAHA Vandermeer wont even play. Either volpatta starts fighting more or we are going to need one.


If we need a fighting presence, Vandermeer will draw in. Tootoo wouldn't play if we had him anyways.

Oh and didn't Thornton sit the first 2 games of the cup final?
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:28 PM

The Wings fans love Tootoo
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:33 PM

If we need a fighting presence, Vandermeer will draw in. Tootoo wouldn't play if we had him anyways.

Oh and didn't Thornton sit the first 2 games of the cup final?

Vandermeer can play forward too right?
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:35 PM

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:22 PM

Vandermeer can play forward too right?


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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:29 PM

i actually feel safest when Ballard and Tanev are on the ice together.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:25 AM

If we need a fighting presence, Vandermeer will draw in. Tootoo wouldn't play if we had him anyways.

Oh and didn't Thornton sit the first 2 games of the cup final?


haha and then when he played he kicked our a**.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:21 AM

haha and then when he played he kicked our a**.

The Canucks make Tootoo look like a fool every time they play against him..btw i wonder how Thortons big nut feels after being cracked by Scott.
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