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#1 Ashmon

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:03 PM

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I'm sure most would agree that Luongo is playing some good hockey now. This is not surprising since he has consistently played well in the regular season since he joined the Canucks. He might of had slow starts (except for this year) but eventually got out of the funk and started playing well. Having said that, he has also had a history of playing horrible in the playoffs the past few seasons. I thought this was the reason Gillis decided it was time to move Luongo. So I'm really not sure where Gillis is going with this. Schneider might of had a couple of bad games but he is still playing 500 hockey (2-2) and had 1 shutout. He should be able to get us into the playoffs especially when Kesler/Booth get back in the lineup. Perhaps Gillis has just not got the offer he's looking for yet but that is no reason to sit out Schneider for so long. He is supposed to be our #1 goalie.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:06 PM

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He has a history of a .916 save percentage and 2.51gaa in the playoffs, this is a myth that has been debunked. He may not be the BEST playoff performer, but his numbers are still very good.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:10 PM

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horrible?

he was the goalie we had 2 years ago who got to the stanley cup final game 7. He had 2 shutouts in the game final series and our team was once tied with Boston dispite being outscore like 4-12 or something like that.

and all the sudden Luongo is horrible in playoff and Schneider, a goalie who played a grant total of eight playoff game, is proven and will carry us into the playoff...

jesus christ who let these people register on Cdc?
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:14 PM

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horrible?

he was the goalie we had 2 years ago who got to the stanley cup final game 7. He had 2 shutouts in the game final series and our team was once tied with Boston dispite being outscore like 4-12 or something like that.

and all the sudden Luongo is horrible in playoff and Schneider, a goalie who played a grant total of eight playoff game, is proven and will carry us into the playoff...

jesus christ who let these people register on Cdc?


True, but he got lit up for all the games in Boston
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:15 PM

Wow, give your head a shake man. :picard:
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:18 PM

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True, but he got lit up for all the games in Boston

The whole team got lit up in Boston. They looked weak.
Edit: And AV did nothing to stop the bleeding.

Edited by luckylager, 05 February 2013 - 09:20 PM.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:18 PM

Roberto Smokebongo's ?
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:19 PM

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More playoff wins than any active goalie other than Brodeur, Fleury, and Khabibulin.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:25 PM

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Luongo has a history of losing multiple key games singlehandedly. Tough to go into a series not sure whether your goalie will play like an NHLer or a Pee wee.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:34 PM

inability to score 5 on 5, pour coverage in our own end of the rink and inability to rise to the occasion, bounced us out of the play-offs more than Lu's bad play. Which i might add was cause by bad coverage....we didn't limit quality chances.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:34 PM

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Luongo has a history of losing multiple key games singlehandedly. Tough to go into a series not sure whether your goalie will play like an NHLer or a Pee wee.


Eh, I don't think he loses them singlehandedly. I remember Kane even saying Luongo shouldn't get the blame after our second loss to Chicago. He was stopping odd man rush after odd man rush, and then boom. He couldn't keep up.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:38 PM

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:43 PM

He does play amazing playoff games. But his high save % gets bolstered by brilliant games mixed with horrible outings.
Isn't the point of having a great goalie to be someone to bail you out when the team can't score? Look at his save percentage in Boston and Chicago, or count how many last minute goals he has let in. He is a premier goalie,but has a history of not making the big save in big games. Can that be denied?
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:48 PM

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He does play amazing playoff games. But his high save % gets bolstered by brilliant games mixed with horrible outings.
Isn't the point of having a great goalie to be someone to bail you out when the team can't score? Look at his save percentage in Boston and Chicago, or count how many last minute goals he has let in. He is a premier goalie,but has a history of not making the big save in big games. Can that be denied?


no, the point of having a great goalie isn't to have someone to bail you out when the team can't score. O wait... the canucks tied the series with Boston two times in the SCF when we get outscore like 1:2 or 1:3.... So.....

and no, goalies aren't machine. They WILL have bad games and they won't be able to bail out the team everytime no matter how elite they are.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:53 PM

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Luongo has a history of losing multiple key games singlehandedly. Tough to go into a series not sure whether your goalie will play like an NHLer or a Pee wee.


The team has a history of not scoring in multiple key games collectively. Tough to go into a series not sure whether your offense will play like the best team in the NHL or score 8 goals in 7 games.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:56 PM

Yep, I agree. Goalie can't bail you out all the time. But after losing 8-1, 4-0, 5-2 and 4-0 in finals, it is legitimate to question the goalies ability to perform in playoffs. Especially when this has occurred in the past in other situations.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:03 PM

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Yep, I agree. Goalie can't bail you out all the time. But after losing 8-1, 4-0, 5-2 and 4-0 in finals, it is legitimate to question the goalies ability to perform in playoffs. Especially when this has occurred in the past in other situations.


errr, dude, after losing 8-1, 4-0, 5-2 and 4-0 in the final, and the team still managed to get to game 7??

and there, you are questioning the goalie's ability to perform in playoff, and those scores has nothing to do with how fack up our injuries were or how bad the reffing was?

have you ever wonder how the hell could the team get to game 7 with those kind of score? And somehow, somewhere on earth, there is a person, or multiple guy, think getting to game 7 with this kind of score has nothing to do with the ability of our goalie keeping the team in game for the last minute with his last breath.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:03 PM

The team has a history of not scoring in multiple key games collectively. Tough to go into a series not sure whether your offense will play like the best team in the NHL or score 8 goals in 7 games.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:04 PM

errr, dude, after losing 8-1, 4-0, 5-2 and 4-0 in the final, and the team still managed to get to game 7??

and there, you are questioning the goalie's ability to perform in playoff, and those scores has nothing to do with how fack up our injuries were or how bad the reffing was?

have you ever wonder how the hell could the team get to game 7 with those kind of score? And somehow, somewhere on earth, there is a person, or multiple guy, think getting to game 7 with this kind of score has nothing to do with the ability of our goalie keeping the team in game for the last minute with his last breath.


What?
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:10 PM

Schneider might of had a couple of bad games but he is still playing 500 hockey (2-2) and had 1 shutout.


Something is seriously wrong...why are Canucks fans settling for a goalie who is only winning half of his games...
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:10 PM

It is about that!! Everybody's getting cold feet! We made a decision people! Stick to it. And now everyones going to be attacking Cory because his agent speaks his mind. Sensitive little b*tches.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:10 PM

I'm sure most would agree that Luongo is playing some good hockey now. This is not surprising since he has consistently played well in the regular season since he joined the Canucks. He might of had slow starts (except for this year) but eventually got out of the funk and started playing well. Having said that, he has also had a history of playing horrible in the playoffs the past few seasons. I thought this was the reason Gillis decided it was time to move Luongo. So I'm really not sure where Gillis is going with this. Schneider might of had a couple of bad games but he is still playing 500 hockey (2-2) and had 1 shutout. He should be able to get us into the playoffs especially when Kesler/Booth get back in the lineup. Perhaps Gillis has just not got the offer he's looking for yet but that is no reason to sit out Schneider for so long. He is supposed to be our #1 goalie.


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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:11 PM

What?


err what what?

i am saying Luongo was the main reason why we can get to game 7 despite being outscore 1 to 3
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:13 PM

Couldn't agree more.. It seems as tho everyone had forgot why we are getting rid of Lou and keeping Cory.. He falters in the playoffs every year, at some point, an it costs us.. Of course he will play well in the reg season but he can't get it done in the playoffs.. Time to trade Lou and I've Cory the starts... If mg can't get this done, then I'm gonna start questions his ability as a gm
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:19 PM

err what what?

i am saying Luongo was the main reason why we can get to game 7 despite being outscore 1 to 3


What?

you're going to have to speak louder dearie, a lot of us got the special case of the stupid
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:22 PM

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:29 PM

Yep, I agree. Goalie can't bail you out all the time. But after losing 8-1, 4-0, 5-2 and 4-0 in finals, it is legitimate to question the goalies ability to perform in playoffs. Especially when this has occurred in the past in other situations.


You realize that's only 3 goals in 4 games right?? not to mention the terrible officiating and a long list of injuries as well.

Of course Lu's had bad games, every goalie has. But to claim he can't perform in the playoffs at all is ridiculous.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:48 PM

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He has a history of a .916 save percentage and 2.51gaa in the playoffs, this is a myth that has been debunked. He may not be the BEST playoff performer, but his numbers are still very good.


Look at this if you like stats.

Lou's last six games in the playoffs by year.

2007-08 - Last 6 games: 4.59 GAA, 0.837 Sv%
2008-09 - Last 6 games: 3.31 GAA, 0.879 Sv%
2009-10 - Last 6 games: 3.52 GAA, 0.897 Sv%
2010-11 - Last 6 games: 4.12 GAA, 0.864 Sv%

Debunked? Myth? No and no.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:55 PM

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Look at this if you like stats.

Lou's last six games in the playoffs by year.

2007-08 - Last 6 games: 4.59 GAA, 0.837 Sv%
2008-09 - Last 6 games: 3.31 GAA, 0.879 Sv%
2009-10 - Last 6 games: 3.52 GAA, 0.897 Sv%
2010-11 - Last 6 games: 4.12 GAA, 0.864 Sv%

Debunked? Myth? No and no.


o noe, let's cherry pick certain amount of game that is in favor with your point of view and run with it~
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:58 PM

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Well it does make sense because I'm pretty sure that the point of trading him is to get better offence... No?
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