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#1 ken kaniff

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:17 PM

The Caps have been struggling and at this rate they wont make the playoffs, so they need something to turn them around, these are a couple trades that can help do just that.

#1 getting a goalie(I know another Lu trade but bear with me)

Washington trades C Brooks Laich, LW/C Filip Forsberg and G Michal Neuvirth for G Roberto Luongo, LW Mason Raymond and a 2013 3rd round draft pick.

-Both the caps goalies havent played well enough. Holtby is not a starter YET, and Neuvirth is just average. Luongo gives them a solid elite goalie. Raymond gives them depth and secondary scoring.
-We get a good 3rd line center, top prospect and a decent backup for Schneids. I do think Was would do this trade given that they continue to play poorly with bad goaltending.

#2 improving defense

Washington trades D Jeff Schultz, LW Wojtek Wolski, and a 2013 2nd round draft pick for D Keith Yandle and RW Paul Bissonette.

-Phx has a lot of young D-men coming up that can replace Yandle(Rundblad, Gormely etc...). Schultz can replace Yandle until one of the younger guys steps up. Wolski adds depth to Phx`s offense and a 2nd round draft pick in a deep draft
*If this is not enough what would be needed to get Yandle out of Phx?
-Was gets a good defenseman to help them in their own zone. their defense has been dreadful. and Biznasty gives them character and grit.

# Getting Ovi some help up front

If Ovi can convince Radulov to come to the NHL to play with him they can make a very deadly line. I think Ovi can influence Radulov into coming to NA for at least one year, or until Kuznetzov is ready.

Sign Radulov 2 years 4mill per.( it will take an over payment to get Radulov back in NA)

This gives that line another threat other than Ovi. Players will have to shutdown both these speedy wingers now as well as Backstrom.


Roster afters trades and healthy(cap geek is still screwed up, but all this fits under that cap amazingly)

Ovechkin-Backstrom-Radulov
Raymond-Ribeiro-Johansson
Ward-Perrault-Brouwer
Chimera-Beagle-Bissonette(just cuz)
-Hendricks

Yandle-Greene
Carlson-Alzner
Poti-Orlov
-Hamerlick

Luongo
Holtby


what do you think?

Edited by ken kaniff, 06 February 2013 - 04:18 PM.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:29 PM

I'm not 100% sure, but isn't Radulov still an RFA for Nashville? Wouldn't Washington have to give up a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd (I could be wrong with the compensation)?
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:43 PM

Those trades are almost perfectly fair. I'd cry tears of joy if that Laich/Forsberg deal happened.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:56 PM

I'm not 100% sure, but isn't Radulov still an RFA for Nashville? Wouldn't Washington have to give up a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd (I could be wrong with the compensation)?


I dont think so since they did not offer him another contract after he turned RFA. the last time he came over he still had another year on his contract if i am correct. it would just be the matter of signing him, and if he is in a contract with a KHL team long term he may not be able to come over since it breaks his contract.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:05 PM

I would let Gillis cum on my face if he was able to get that first trade done.

ewwww... you probably would anyways
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:51 PM

i like it but id prefer brouwer over laich, similar game style they play but brouwer is almost 900k cheaper, which would be nice to shed a bit more cap in any way we can
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:00 PM

We are getting Neuvirth to share ice time with Schneider. We want to bring in a real goalie.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:36 PM

Laich's contract is long-term at 4.5 million for a guy who is not a top level NHL player. It's another Booth or Ballard deal which we could do without. But talent wise it makes sense. I'd really like to get Forsberg
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:36 PM

And there's no way Phoenix gives away Yandle for that cheap
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:54 PM

They need to ditch OV & start over with Kuznetsov. No more decade-contracts either! Guys like Hendricks make 600K, score more big goals(recently) than Ovi, & fight anyone, to cover the guy's butt. All the while that flamboyant loudmouth makes 10 mill?!? How can he look his teammates in the eye?

...So we'll take him!

Luongo, Ballard, Booth, Schroeder(they can rebuild a patriotic, speedy US team) & Sauve, for:

Ovechkin(admit, like to see him with the twins), Alzner, Forsberg, Neuvirth, their 2014 1st rounder

-We win the Cup, then buy that bum out!
-both packages are about 14 mill in Cap.
-Yes it's ludicrous, but I bet Washington would start trending upwards.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:58 PM

They need to ditch OV & start over with Kuznetsov. No more decade-contracts either! Guys like Hendricks make 600K, score more big goals(recently) than Ovi, & fight anyone, to cover the guy's butt. All the while that flamboyant loudmouth makes 10 mill?!? How can he look his teammates in the eye?

...So we'll take him!

Luongo, Ballard, Booth, Schroeder(they can rebuild a patriotic, speedy US team) & Sauve, for:

Ovechkin(admit, like to see him with the twins), Alzner, Forsberg, Neuvirth, their 2014 1st rounder

-We win the Cup, then buy that bum out!
-both packages are about 14 mill in Cap.
-Yes it's ludicrous, but I bet Washington would start trending upwards.


So, why the expensive Ovechkin, instead of Ilya Kovalchuk from NJD?
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:58 PM

They need to ditch OV & start over with Kuznetsov. No more decade-contracts either! Guys like Hendricks make 600K, score more big goals(recently) than Ovi, & fight anyone, to cover the guy's butt. All the while that flamboyant loudmouth makes 10 mill?!? How can he look his teammates in the eye?

...So we'll take him!

Luongo, Ballard, Booth, Schroeder(they can rebuild a patriotic, speedy US team) & Sauve, for:

Ovechkin(admit, like to see him with the twins), Alzner, Forsberg, Neuvirth, their 2014 1st rounder

-We win the Cup, then buy that bum out!
-both packages are about 14 mill in Cap.
-Yes it's ludicrous, but I bet Washington would start trending upwards.

Buy out Alexander Ovechkin...not sure if serious...
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:16 PM

I'll hereby predict by Sochi(Feb 2014) the Ovechkin contract is perceived as the heaviest anvil in the league. It'll surpass the Lecavalier deal in rank stench.

At least Vinny will drop the gloves, & keep his yap shut when he should. I bet Washington's players would instantly perk up if that albatross flew away.

Yes ovechkin's a sublimely talented player-they just completely botched his contract. Lastly, for those of us who nostalgically wonder "what mighta ben", had we signed Bure long-term, OV's/Washington's plummet will probably give us the closest approximation of the bullet we may have dodged.

In NHL hockey, give me personable, accountable & conscientious stars like Yzerman, Sakic, Iginla; or even lesser stars similar to Trevor Linden ANY DAY over these talented headcases! & NO, it's not simply bc he's Russian. I have great admiration for the skill/class of Larionov, Datsyuk, & others... A great team like ours today could keep this buffoon accountable for a short term...perhaps.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:17 PM

Green and Johannson and a 1st for the Penguins 2nd round pick and Malkin.

Backstrom and Tom Wilson for Luongo and a 1st.

Jeff Schultz, Holtby, and Vancouver's 1st rounder for Bernier and Voynov.

That ought to shake up the team.
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Posted 08 February 2013 - 02:05 PM

The Caps dug themselves into a deep hole that will be difficult to get out of this season. Don't panic, play it out, draft high (top 3 pick) DON'T TRADE YOUTH.

They are a seller not a buyer - If I am McPhee and any GM calls me trying to raid the cupboard, I ask if they have any interest in Ribeiro, Potti Hamrlik or Brouwer.

Forget about all the talk about any combo of Johansson, Carlson, Alzner or 1st rd pick for Luongo and some of our baggage (Raymond, Ballard)... Not gonna happen
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 03:43 AM

Their core is horrible. Cup winning teams build off solid cores, which include 2 centermen, a winger or two, a great top defensive pairing and goalie.

Chicago's is still one of the best, with Toews, Kane, Sharp, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook and now Crawford.
Boston has a bit of a wavering core with Krejci, Lucic, Horton, Seguin, Chara, Seidenberg and now Rask.
Los Angeles has a great core with Kopitar, Richards, Brown, Carter, Doughty, Mitchell and Quick.

Now look at Washington's core:

Backstrom, Johanssen (not quite as good as some of the other 2nd line centers), Ovechkin, Knuble (not a star), Green (disgusting defensively) and Carlson (ditto), with no real star goalie.

Their core needs a serious shake-up, it starts in net and works out to defence. Ideally they need a couple of solid shutdown specialists to help clean up their sloppy play, a top-10 NHL goalie and a depth scoring winger. This team is in a lot more trouble than it seems.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:30 AM

Washington doesn't need fixing. They have a good, young core, as well as some elite prospects on their way up. I am talking about Backstrom, Alzner, Carlson, Johanssen, Kuznetsov and Forsberg. Holtby still has a lot of upside, and could be a franchise goalie. They just have to let those guys develop and continue to draft well. McPhee shouldn't be in a hurry to do anything. At some point, it will likely make sense to trade Ovechkin to clear cap and change the team's culture. But there's no rush for that.
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