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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:36 AM

After hearing AV's recent over-the-top assessment of Kesler's progress ("leaps and bounds"), I am beginning to question Ryan Kesler's future in this city.

AV's comments last year, related to how Kesler's injuries were not a factor in his non-performance, clearly did not go over well with RK17. And then there were Kurt Overhardt's actions in the off-season, declaring in December that Kesler was "months and months" away from a return, which varied greatly from Gillis' prognosis and clearly was not well-received by either the organization or the city at-large.

This sort of "smoke" is often a signal that there's fire in the background. See all of the signals with Cody, for proof: working out on his own, wanting multiple physician opinions, etc.

I'm beginning to wonder if a trade, along these lines, is in progress:

To NASHVILLE:
-Ryan Kesler
-Keith Ballard
-2013 1st

To VANCOUVER:
-Shea Weber

Kesler was obviously dominant against the Preds in 2011, and I do recall Ballard actually contributing in that series as well, with some good rushes and hipchecks. Both guys, IMO, would very much be "Nashville" types.

Thoughts?

Edited by King of the ES, 07 February 2013 - 10:37 AM.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:38 AM

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:39 AM

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After hearing AV's recent over-the-top assessment of Kesler's progress ("leaps and bounds"), I am beginning to question Ryan Kesler's future in this city.

AV's comments last year, related to how Kesler's injuries were not a factor in his non-performance, clearly did not go over well with RK17. And then there were Kurt Overhardt's actions in the off-season, declaring in December that Kesler was "months and months" away from a return, which varied greatly from Gillis' prognosis and clearly was not well-received by either the organization or the city at-large.

This sort of "smoke" is often a signal that there's fire in the background. See all of the signals with Cody, for proof: working out on his own, wanting multiple physician opinions, etc.

I'm beginning to wonder if a trade, along these lines, is in progress:

To NASHVILLE:
-Ryan Kesler
-Keith Ballard
-2013 1st

To VANCOUVER:
-Shea Weber

Kesler was obviously dominant against the Preds in 2011, and I do recall Ballard actually contributing in that series as well, with some good rushes and hipchecks. Both guys, IMO, would very much be "Nashville" types.

Thoughts?

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:39 AM

My thoughts are to watch your mouth son.

Kesler loves vancouver and we love him.

nothing too see here people.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:45 AM

To NASHVILLE:
-Ryan Kesler
-Keith Ballard
-2013 1st

To VANCOUVER:
-Shea Weber

Kesler was obviously dominant against the Preds in 2011, and I do recall Ballard actually contributing in that series as well, with some good rushes and hipchecks. Both guys, IMO, would very much be "Nashville" types.

Thoughts?


I would make that trade in a heartbeat, but I doubt they would. Kesler was a Floppy Mcflopperton last season and Ballard has a lot to prove.

Edited by TimberWolf, 07 February 2013 - 10:46 AM.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:45 AM

Hmm.. Another "Doom and Gloom" thread from King..

Didn't see this coming.. <_<

So because AV said Kesler looks great, and Kesler said he's not ready yet you assume there's a rift? AV can only go based on what he sees from Kesler, and obviously he thinks Kesler is looking pretty good.

I’ve had a couple of good days of practice and I’m just going from there,” said Kesler. “There are areas out there where I don’t feel comfortable, so there’s no timeline at all. Until I feel that comfort level and feel I can step in and contribute the way I can, I’ll be playing then.
“The wrist gets achy once in a while, but nothing out of the ordinary. The shoulder is the biggest thing. I have to make sure it’s 100-per-cent and the range of motion is there, but strength isn’t there at all. Once we get home, I’m really going to hammer that and take it day by day.”
Last season, Kesler was cleared for light contact after summer surgery to repair a torn labrum in his hip and returned to the lineup in just 14 days. He laboured through stiffness and soreness and struggled to score 22 goals.
“I made the mistake before and I won’t make it again,” he stressed.


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Sounds like Kesler is making sure he is 100% before returning. No worries there.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:46 AM

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Lol weber has the same amount of points as kesler this season
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:47 AM

Methinks you might be reading waaaaaaaaaay too much into this.

Couple holes in the tin foil hat?
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:47 AM

I would make that trade in a heartbeat, but I doubt they would. Kesler was a Floppy Mcflopperton last season and Ballard has a lot to prove.


lol a couple of flops and a overused gif and now hes the king of diving?

i look at more of the good things that he does in the other 20+ minutes hes on the ice than one little play he might do once in every 3 games.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:48 AM

:rolleyes:
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:50 AM

You are absurd sir!
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:50 AM

Not even going to bother responding to the premise of the thread. As for the trade idea: a big fat NO! Is Weber worth that? Arguably, but the value doesn't matter because what hurts the Canucks after the trade is where it leaves them at the center position. They'd have an aging Hank centering the 1st line and then what? Two 4th line grinding centres in Malhotra and Lapierre and one rookie with 2 NHL points in Jordan Schroeder. That's what.

I'd bet money on the fact that if Vancouver and Nashville were to complete a Weber trade, the package going Nashville's way would likely be built around Alex Edler.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:51 AM

i think your looking for the
Proposals and Armchair GM'ing


you continue to pull crap out of the air and think you really know whats going on behind closes doors enough is enough get rid of this fool and never allow access to this site again although would probably just make another account to troll
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:51 AM


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:52 AM

Lol weber has the same amount of points as kesler this season


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:55 AM

So king, are their any redeeming qualities in the current team?
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:55 AM

i think your looking for the
Proposals and Armchair GM'ing


No, I'm not.

And AV did not simply say that Kesler looked "good". He said that he's "improved by leaps and bounds". He's subtly suggesting, IMO, that Kesler should be ready to go very, very soon, probably sooner than maybe Kesler & Overhardt want.

As for the trade, Nashville can't realistically compete with two monster contracts (Weber & Rinne) and a bunch of complementary players. This is a trade that could work well for both teams. And, IMO, Schroeder has shown me in his time up that he has what it takes to be a 2C in the NHL, today (though I would still like to acquire a veteran C that could be played on the 3rd line, and possibly have the potential to fill in for Schroeder should he experience a slump - *AHEM* tyler bozak).

BTW - this is the exact reaction that most people had on this board about Cody. "Working out on his own? Who cares!?! There is no rift!"

Edited by King of the ES, 07 February 2013 - 10:57 AM.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:56 AM

Facepalm.

WTF was he doing all lockout and the past two months? He's been the most active player in the community. This guy is an American that has made Vancouver home. He loves this city.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:58 AM

King of the ES why you still here?? stop trolling.............kesler NO TRADE CLAUSE
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:59 AM

No, I'm not.

And AV did not simply say that Kesler looked "good". He said that he's "improved by leaps and bounds". He's subtly suggesting, IMO, that Kesler should be ready to go very, very soon, probably sooner than maybe Kesler & Overhardt want.

As for the trade, Nashville can't realistically compete with two monster contracts (Weber & Rinne) and a bunch of complementary players. This is a trade that could work well for both teams. And, IMO, Schroeder has shown me in his time up that he has what it takes to be a 2C in the NHL, today (though I would still like to acquire a veteran C that could be played on the 3rd line, and possibly have the potential to fill in for Schroeder should he experience a slump - *AHEM* tyler bozak).

BTW - this is the exact reaction that most people had on this board about Cody. "Working out on his own? Who cares!?! There is no rift!"


So you're basing a thread off semantics and speculation. Ok there.

(And by the way, since you're proposing a trade, proposals section is where it should be)
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:01 AM

No, I'm not.

And AV did not simply say that Kesler looked "good". He said that he's "improved by leaps and bounds". He's subtly suggesting, IMO, that Kesler should be ready to go very, very soon, probably sooner than maybe Kesler & Overhardt want.

As for the trade, Nashville can't realistically compete with two monster contracts (Weber & Rinne) and a bunch of complementary players. This is a trade that could work well for both teams. And, IMO, Schroeder has shown me in his time up that he has what it takes to be a 2C in the NHL, today (though I would still like to acquire a veteran C that could be played on the 3rd line, and possibly have the potential to fill in for Schroeder should he experience a slump - *AHEM* tyler bozak).

BTW - this is the exact reaction that most people had on this board about Cody. "Working out on his own? Who cares!?! There is no rift!"


And the Canucks can? Yes it would be nice to have Weber but going Philly crazy on contracts won't help us.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:01 AM

Is King of ES really mark spector?? begining to wonder, the more i see his threads that he starts.. the more he is coming of as a wiener who doesn't watch much hockey.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:01 AM

And AV did not simply say that Kesler looked "good". He said that he's "improved by leaps and bounds". He's subtly suggesting, IMO, that Kesler should be ready to go very, very soon, probably sooner than maybe Kesler & Overhardt want.


That's simply reading way too much into it. "He has improved by leaps and bounds and is back to 50% sooner than we thought" is just as legitimate as "He has improved by leaps and bounds and is ready to play".

AV never provided any assessment of where Kelser was at.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:04 AM

After hearing AV's recent over-the-top assessment of Kesler's progress ("leaps and bounds"), I am beginning to question Ryan Kesler's future in this city.
You are so right, as always King, whatever are we going to do without your questions?

AV's comments last year, related to how Kesler's injuries were not a factor in his non-performance, clearly did not go over well with RK17. And then there were Kurt Overhardt's actions in the off-season, declaring in December that Kesler was "months and months" away from a return, which varied greatly from Gillis' prognosis and clearly was not well-received by either the organization or the city at-large.
Once again, you are incredibly perceptive in discerning what everyone is thinking.

This sort of "smoke" is often a signal that there's fire in the background. See all of the signals with Cody, for proof: working out on his own, wanting multiple physician opinions, etc.
You are on a roll! Kesler's situation is exactly like Cody's.

I'm beginning to wonder if a trade, along these lines, is in progress:

To NASHVILLE:
-Ryan Kesler
-Keith Ballard
-2013 1st

To VANCOUVER:
-Shea Weber
Yes, exactly! Why would anyone hold onto argueably the best defenceman in the league when they could have poor, mis-treated Kesler, Ballard, and a first round pick from the President's Cup - holding team?


Kesler was obviously dominant against the Preds in 2011, and I do recall Ballard actually contributing in that series as well, with some good rushes and hipchecks. Both guys, IMO, would very much be "Nashville" types.
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Thoughts? None of my own, that much is true for sure. Not only have you completely nailed this and I have nothing to add, but the board rules specifically outlaw what I would really like to post.


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:05 AM

I like the trade, King. I doubt that Nashville would, though....

...and I don't share your pessimism regarding Kesler's relationship with AV or the Canucks. Actually I don't share your pessimism on virtually everything...
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:05 AM

He was at Save on bagging groceries for Christ sake.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:10 AM

After hearing AV's recent over-the-top assessment of Kesler's progress ("leaps and bounds"), I am beginning to question Ryan Kesler's future in this city.

AV's comments last year, related to how Kesler's injuries were not a factor in his non-performance, clearly did not go over well with RK17. And then there were Kurt Overhardt's actions in the off-season, declaring in December that Kesler was "months and months" away from a return, which varied greatly from Gillis' prognosis and clearly was not well-received by either the organization or the city at-large.

This sort of "smoke" is often a signal that there's fire in the background. See all of the signals with Cody, for proof: working out on his own, wanting multiple physician opinions, etc.

I'm beginning to wonder if a trade, along these lines, is in progress:

To NASHVILLE:
-Ryan Kesler
-Keith Ballard
-2013 1st

To VANCOUVER:
-Shea Weber

Kesler was obviously dominant against the Preds in 2011, and I do recall Ballard actually contributing in that series as well, with some good rushes and hipchecks. Both guys, IMO, would very much be "Nashville" types.

Thoughts?

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:13 AM

He was at Save on bagging groceries for Christ sake.


ha ha giving away free canucks stuff no less. wish i lived in Vancouver sometimes.. seems like the canucks do alot more around town than here in ottawa.. aside from alfredson. and games wouldn't be be past my bed time lol. i still have to wake up in the morning and do the whole parenting thing but i suck it up for the canucks. actually the nice thing is wife is sleeping when the games start, so i dont have to talk to her while watching hockey :)
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:13 AM

He was at Save on bagging groceries for Christ sake.


Yeah, and Tim Hortons serving up coffees.

He must HATE Vancouver.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:15 AM

Kesler's future is solid with the Canucks. I see no reason why the Canucks would ever trade him. Solid 2nd line center, a game changing player, and one of the best 2 way forwards in the game. The Canucks trading him would be an incredibly stupid move.
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