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Read the whole manifesto. Incredible. It's the plot line of damm near every good guy cop movie Hollywood has produced for the last twenty years. Except with less killing. Looks like the LAPD gets to know how it's poorer folk feel. Judging by the police shooting innocent people this modern day Steven Segal wont get to testify on on his own behalf. You reap what you sew. This is going to reverberate with all the downtrodden vets, whether military or civillian, who has been given the military/law enforcement agency the bums rush out the door after active service because of a corrupt system..You reap what you sew. This is the start and it's going to happen a lot more. My condolences to the families of the dead and soon to be dead. Reality really sucks sometimes.:(

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I second the suggestion that everyone read the full manifesto. It's the most astonishing thing I've seen in quite a long time. At times fully batcrap insane, others oddly emotionally triumphant. I really can't do it justice, but I find this whole thing fascinating. Whoever asked for the Coles Notes version up above - this is a case where that's simply not possible.

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Read the whole manifesto. Incredible. It's the plot line of damm near every good guy cop movie Hollywood has produced for the last twenty years. Except with less killing. Looks like the LAPD gets to know how it's poorer folk feel. Judging by the police shooting innocent people this modern day Steven Segal wont get to testify on on his own behalf. You reap what you sew. This is going to reverberate with all the downtrodden vets, whether military or civillian, who has been given the military/law enforcement agency the bums rush out the door after active service because of a corrupt system..You reap what you sew. This is the start and it's going to happen a lot more. My condolences to the families of the dead and soon to be dead. Reality really sucks sometimes. :(

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Report detailing that the LA police fired on innocent civilians in two separate incidents-

LAPD officers guarding a target named in the manifesto shot and wounded two women in suburban Torrance who were in a pickup truck delivering newspapers. Investigators said Maggie Carranza, 47, and her mother, Emma Hernandez, 71, were in a Toyota Tundra, similar to Dorner's Nissan Titan. Carranza had minor hand injuries. Hernandez was hospitalized with a gunshot wound in the back. A lawyer said they had no warning.

Minutes later, Torrance officers responding to a report of gunshots encountered a dark pickup matching the description of Dorner's, police said. A collision occurred and the officers fired on the pickup. The unidentified driver was not hit and it turned out not to be the suspect vehicle, they said.

Dorner is a large black man - 6 feet and 270 pounds. I am unsure how two Hispanic women (one middle aged and one elderly) delivering newspapers could be mistaken for Dorner and when driving a different make of truck. Odd training they must give LAPD officers.

And some more detail on his firing from the LAPD - sounds like he breached the blue wall of silience.

Dorner was with the LAPD from 2005 until 2008.

CBS News senior correspondent John Miller, a former top LAPD official, reports that Dorner cut off all his cell phones and other connections Jan. 31, indicating that he had spent time planning his alleged rampage.

According to documents from a court of appeals hearing, Dorner was fired from the LAPD after he made a complaint against his field training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans. Dorner said that in the course of an arrest, Evans kicked suspect Christopher Gettler, a schizophrenic with severe dementia.

Richard Gettler, the schizophrenic man's father, gave testimony that supported Dorner's claim. After his son was returned home on July 28, 2007, Richard Gettler asked "if he had been in a fight because his face was puffy" and his son responded that he was kicked twice in the chest by a police officer.

Quan's father, a former LAPD captain who became a lawyer in retirement, represented Dorner in front of the Board of Rights, a tribunal that ruled against Dorner, police said. Randal Quan retired in 2002 and later served as chief of police at Cal Poly Pomona before he started practicing law. Quan did not immediately return a message seeking comment.

Dorner said in his online rant that after his dismissal that he lost everything, including his relationships with his mother, sister and close friends.

"Self-preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death as I died long ago," the manifesto said. "I was told by my mother that sometimes bad things happen to good people. I refuse to accept that."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57568339/ex-lapd-cop-christopher-dorner-eludes-police-on-mountain-manhunt/

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the problem with officers being scared, is that people tend to get shot over it...

Obviously there is no excuse for shooting innocent people, but you really do have to consider yourself in their shoes;

You are personally charged with protecting someone, lets say...

Then add the fact that your protecting them from someone who really REALLY wants you dead too...

I wonder how many innocent people youd shoot, especially if they pulled up in the suspects car and threw something at you (paper).

You might squeeze off one shot and realize you got the wrong car, but the five other cops standing around fire three rounds (as theyre trained to) into the car... woops thats like swiss cheese. these ladies are lucky they only got one round each. =(

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Maybe if it were cheaper/easier to get mental healthcare than it is to get a gun, we could begin to see improvements here.

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This guy does not strike me as your typical "mental defective" who would vote for the Tea Party types, but rather an intelligent man who has had enough and lost it .. is he is emblematic of the "new" domestic "terrorist"? .. he just may become a role model for left-wing nuts who want to play the right-wing nut "game" .. it is fascinating to watch ..

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Search For Ex-Cop Suspected Of Killing 3 Covers California

All that was left were footprints leading away from Christopher Dorner's burned-out pickup truck, and enormous, snow-covered mountains where he could be hiding among hundreds of cabins, deep canyons and dense woods.

More than 100 officers, including SWAT teams, were driven Friday in glass-enclosed snow machines and armored personnel carriers to hunt for the former Los Angeles police officer suspected of going on a deadly rampage to get back at those he blamed for ending his police career.

With bloodhounds in tow, officers went door to door as snow fell, aware to the reality they could be walking into a trap set by the well-trained former Navy reservist who knows their tactics and strategies as well as they do.

"He can be behind every tree," said T. Gregory Hall, a retired tactical supervisor for a special emergency response team for the Pennsylvania State Police. "He can try to draw them into an ambush area where he backtracks."

As authorities weathered heavy snow and freezing temperatures in the mountains, thousands of heavily armed police remained on the lookout throughout California, Nevada, Arizona and northern Mexico for a suspect bent on revenge and willing to die.

Police said officers still were guarding more than 40 people mentioned as targets in a rant they said Dorner posted on Facebook. He vowed to use "every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance and survival training I've been given" to bring "warfare" to the LAPD and its families.

At noon, police and U.S. marshals accompanied by computer forensics specialists used a search warrant to remove about 10 paper grocery bags of evidence from his mother's single-story house in the Orange County city of La Palma. Dorner's mother and sister cooperated with the search, a police spokesman said.

The manhunt had Southern California residents on edge. Unconfirmed sightings were reported near Barstow, about 60 miles north of the mountain search, and in downtown Los Angeles.

Some law enforcement officials said he appeared to be everywhere and nowhere, and speculated that he was trying to spread out their resources.

For the time being, their focus was on the mountains 80 miles east of Los Angeles – a snowy wilderness, filled with thick forests and jagged peaks, that creates peril as much for Dorner as the officers hunting him. Bad weather grounded helicopters with heat-sensing technology.

After the discovery of his truck Thursday afternoon, SWAT teams in camouflage started scouring the mountains.

As officers worked through the night, a storm blew in, possibly covering tracks that had led them away from his truck but offering the possibility of a fresh trail to follow.

"The snow is great for tracking folks as well as looking at each individual cabin to see if there's any signs of forced entry," San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said.

The small army hunting him has the advantage of strength in numbers and access to resources, such as special weapons, to bring him in.

In his online rant, Dorner baited authorities.

"Any threat assessments you generate will be useless," it read. "I have the strength and benefits of being unpredictable, unconventional, and unforgiving."

Without the numbers that authorities have, Dorner holds one advantage: the element of surprise.

Authorities said they do not know how long Dorner had been planning the rampage or why he drove to the San Bernardino Mountains. Property records show his mother owns undeveloped land nearby, but a search of the area found no sign of him.

It was not clear if he had provisions, clothing or weapons stockpiled in the area. Even with training, days of cold and snow can be punishing.

"Unless he is an expert in living in the California mountains in this time of year, he is going to be hurting," said former Navy SEAL Clint Sparks, who now works in tactical training and security. "Cold is a huge stress factor. ... Not everybody is survivor-man."

Jamie Usera, an attorney in Salem, Ore., who befriended Dorner when they were students and football teammates at Southern Utah University, said he introduced him to the outdoors. Originally from Alaska, Usera said, he taught Dorner about hunting and other outdoor activities.

"Of all the people I hung out with in college, he is the last guy I would have expected to be in this kind of situation," Usera, who had lost touch with Dorner is recent years, told the Los Angeles Times.

Others saw Dorner differently. Court documents obtained by The Associated Press on Friday show an ex-girlfriend of Dorner's called him "severely emotionally and mentally disturbed" after the two split in 2006.

Dorner served in the Navy, earning a rifle marksman ribbon and pistol expert medal. He was assigned to a naval undersea warfare unit and various aviation training units, according to military records. He took leave from the LAPD for a six-month deployment to Bahrain in 2006 and 2007.

Last Friday was his last day with the Navy and also the day CNN's Anderson Cooper received a package that contained a note on it that read, in part, "I never lied." A coin riddled with bullet holes that former Chief William Bratton gave out as a souvenir was also in the package.

Police said it was a sign of planning by Dorner before the killing began.

On Sunday, police say Dorner shot and killed a couple in a parking garage at their condominium in Irvine. The woman was the daughter of a retired police captain who had represented Dorner in the disciplinary proceedings that led to his firing.

Dorner wrote in his manifesto that he believed the retired captain had represented the interests of the department over his.

Hours after authorities identified Dorner as a suspect in the double murder, police believe Dorner shot and grazed an LAPD officer in Corona and then used a rifle to ambush two Riverside police officers early Thursday, killing one and seriously wounding the other.

The incident led police to believe he was armed with multiple weapons, including an assault-type rifle. That detail concerned officers whose bullet-proof vests can be penetrated by such high-powered weapons, said LAPD Deputy Chief Kirk Albanese.

As a result, all LAPD officers have been required to work in pairs to ensure "a greater likelihood of coming out on top if there is an ambush," Albanese said. "We have no officers alone right now."

In Big Bear Lake on Friday, residents were on edge about the manhunt even as ski slopes remained open.

"A lot of people are frightened by it," said Dennis Pitner. "A lot of people are at home locked in their houses and probably won't come out for a couple more days, maybe even longer."

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This guy does not strike me as your typical "mental defective" who would vote for the Tea Party types, but rather an intelligent man who has had enough and lost it .. is he is emblematic of the "new" domestic "terrorist"? .. he just may become a role model for left-wing nuts who want to play the right-wing nut "game" .. it is fascinating to watch ..

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