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#91 Dazzle

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:27 PM

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Wow, this is just sloppiness on Katie's part.

She should know better that isn't Thomas' picture. She had reported for the NYI for a period of time and NYI plays Boston A LOT.

How could you get that picture wrong?

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:31 PM

So a team can suspend Luongo at the end of his career, and then trade him to a team that needs to reach the cap floor?

The NHL is going to need to clear this up. How long can a player be suspended for and still be considered an active contract?

I didn't even think you could trade suspended players, just like you can't trade injured players.


I can't confirm whether or not you can trade suspended players but you definitely CAN trade injured players, provided that it is FULLY DISCLOSED.

Higgins was acquired in this way from FLA at a really cheap price ~4th round pick. At the time, he had a broken finger.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:33 PM

Wow, this is just sloppy on Katie's part.

She should know better that isn't Thomas' picture. She reports for the NYI and NYI plays Boston A LOT and are thus, extremely familiar with Thomas.

How could you get that picture wrong?


She probably drew up this report quickly in order to be one of the first to report it.

Grabbed a stock photo of Tim Thomas the basketball player instead of the hockey player, and posted it without even realizing it. Stuff happens.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:34 PM

I can't confirm whether or not you can trade suspended players but you definitely CAN trade injured players, provided that it is FULLY DISCLOSED.

Higgins was acquired in this way from FLA at a really cheap price ~4th round pick. At the time, he had a broken finger.


Sory, I should have said players on IR. ::D
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:36 PM

Wow
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:56 PM

Thomas is in Colorado with his guns in a mountain cave waiting for the end.
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Toronto will take a step back next year.
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July 8-2013

Wow I can't believe peoples replies...
Im done here. You people are disgusting..


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:57 PM

This is so silly.

Edited by gushybear, 07 February 2013 - 06:53 PM.

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Toronto will take a step back next year.
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July 8-2013

Wow I can't believe peoples replies...
Im done here. You people are disgusting..


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:03 PM

Wow, this is just sloppiness on Katie's part.

She should know better that isn't Thomas' picture. She had reported for the NYI for a period of time and NYI plays Boston A LOT.

How could you get that picture wrong?

Or maybe she searched quickly in the ESPN database for a Tim Thomas and disregarded who was who and just quickly put it up?


I notice it's gone now so...
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:06 PM

Or maybe she searched quickly in the ESPN database for a Tim Thomas and disregarded who was who and just quickly put it up?


I notice it's gone now so...


*shrugs*

That's probably the reason - still - she should have known better. It's inexcusable if you put in the wrong picture for a player that you see so often in the conference.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:06 PM

for a 2nd round pick? :picard:
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:09 PM

Hey, uh, stupid, we don't need to take into consideration what the other team wants or already has. k thanx bai.


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Then Subban aswell.

But for some reason then need another young goalie.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:11 PM

Come on folks the 2nd round pick is conditional!!
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:32 PM

Thanks Captain Obvious. Obviously, we overreacted and didn't read within the context before posting. Thanks for assuming that we're dumbasses


You are welcome.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:37 PM

That can't be right, can it?

I thought the geniuses at the NHL head offices cleared up all of the loopholes in the cba. /sarcasm


Yeah, if the player refuses to fulfill his contract the team can suspend him and toll his contract, meaning the player has to fulfill that year of his contract before being able to move on. The Isles did this with Nabokov when he refused to report after being signed by DET and having to go through mandatory waivers.

I think it's a great rule. This way players can't hold out and become UFA if they don't like the contract they previously agreed to. This doesn't happen often and its not a cap circumventing clause like some may suggest. Its just a way for the NHL to enforce the SPC agreed to by the player.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:38 PM

Watch Thomas have a secret plan with Boston to show up at the last possible time and get Boston a high 2nd round pick... :picard:
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:13 PM

Imagine the scenario where NYI tolls out the contract for 10 years to meet the cap floor each year. Tim Thomas will be a 48 year old that is technically still signed to an NHL contract. Then, imagine crazy Tim has used up all his money doing whatever crazy Tim does in his free time. Then, he reports to NYI as a 48 year old to collect his $5M salary.

That would be awesome.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:41 PM

I didn't realize that the Bruins were still on the hook for Thomas' cap hit. What an A$$.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:46 PM

Thomas is a joke
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:53 PM

Watch Thomas have a secret plan with Boston to show up at the last possible time and get Boston a high 2nd round pick... :picard:



this is what will happen Thomas realizes that the islander's have a shot at making the playoffs so after the trade deadline he requests a chance to play islanders squeek in as the 8th seed well Boston finishes 1st. I guess you see we're I'm going with this Thomas feels he still has something to prove to himself,islanders, Boston, and hockey fans in general he stands on his head and leads the islanders past the bruins
Well out celebrating after the series he gets into a altercation with the little rat bites his nose off and is dealt with harshly by the court and spends many many years on some chain gang in the Deep South LOL

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

Don't you just hate how this guy looks? His smirky smile and that stache... Grrr!
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:22 PM

Islanders traded a conditional 2nd rounder for either 2014 or 2015.

This move doesn't make any sense. Why would they give such a high pick for Thomas? Did he say he would play this year? I would think that if anything, Boston would have to give the NYI a 2nd pick just to get out from the cap hit.


I think there's a condition that Thomas has to re-sign with the NYI in order for Boston to get the pick
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:50 PM

Tim Thomas did not get traded. His cap was traded. I think Thomas just..... retired, after causing Boston, his former team, inconvenience.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:35 PM

*shrugs*

That's probably the reason - still - she should have known better. It's inexcusable if you put in the wrong picture for a player that you see so often in the conference.

Or maybe she searched quickly in the ESPN database for a Tim Thomas and disregarded who was who and just quickly put it up?


I notice it's gone now so...

Wow, this is just sloppiness on Katie's part.

She should know better that isn't Thomas' picture. She had reported for the NYI for a period of time and NYI plays Boston A LOT.

How could you get that picture wrong?


Puck Daddy mentioned this earlier. Apparently they use an automated database that fills in the picture using players' names.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:36 PM

Tim Thomas did not get traded. His cap was traded. I think Thomas just..... retired, after causing Boston, his former team, inconvenience.


Not from what I've read. Apparently he wants to both play in the NHL next year and in the Olympics.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:20 PM

Go get eliminated


Did you just mouth off a mod?
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:27 PM

Not from what I've read. Apparently he wants to both play in the NHL next year and in the Olympics.


I was being sarcastic. :sadno:
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:28 PM

I heard Nabokov's contract is "tolled". Is that true?
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:38 PM

I heard Nabokov's contract is "tolled". Is that true?


I heard Jordan Staal got traded by Pittsburgh. Is that true?
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:41 PM

I heard Jordan Staal got traded by Pittsburgh. Is that true?


Yes. It is true.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:45 PM

In the end, what makes no sense is how the NHL has approved this, since it's a trade for a player that's already stated he won't be playing in the NHL this year. The NHL has the power to deny trades if they have good reason, but once again they wash their hands of it (assuming they have approved it). It's the back diving contracts all over again, where the NHL only stepped in when it got so absurd their hand was forced.

I guess it's just an opportunity for a team that is an original six (and happens to have Jeremy Jacobs running it) to get away with dumping cap when they need to. Chicago sending Huet to Europe, Detroit and Chicago signing the first ever back diving contracts, and now Boston dumping their goalie that won't play for a pick (or maybe even nothing just so they can dump his cap hit).

They wanted to shut down the back diving contracts after Luongo's deal was signed. However they couldn't do that without invalidating the contracts for Zetterberg, Franzen and Hossa since they were all too similar. If they had done that, it would have also invalidated the games Detroit and Chicago played that past season, and would have denied Chicago the Stanley Cup they just won. Only once the Kovy deal took it a small step further could they draw the line in the sand. For the rest, they had to complain in the CBA negotiations to show just how against them they really were from the start.

If this was Nashville and Florida making the same style deal, I suggest the NHL would have denied it. In the same way, if Luongo was traded to Florida but then decided to take a sabbatical for the remaining (but low paying) years of his contract, Florida would also try and suspend him, but then the NHL would find fault with it because it doesn't benefit a team they want it to.
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