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#1 BigRedMachine

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:37 AM

At least a few CDCers said they were going to wait until 10 games into the season before they started to pass judgment on the team.

So now that we've reached that milestone, what do people think of the Canucks' performance so far?

The team is 6-2-2, and, after a bit of a slow start, they are riding a four game win streak. They have beaten some strong teams (Chicago) and lost to some weaker ones (Edmonton, for example) And while they have not been dominant like, say, Boston has, their records is still good enough for Division Lead (albeit in a weak division).

Goaltending has been an obvious strength so far. After a shaky start against Anaheim, Schneids seems to have settled down and looked great the other night against the Wild. Luongo has looked fairly solid throughout.

For a team missing most of their second line, they have been getting decent secondary scoring. Defence also looked shaky the first few games but seems to be settling in.

Thoughts?
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:51 AM

Ten games in.

Glad hockey Is back.

Something to get through the dark days of winter with.

Lots of great drama and media smoke blowing.

Doing well despite missing a couple key players.

Zachary freakn kassian.

Playoffs are where it counts.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:00 AM

I think we're gonna be alright.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:03 AM

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I gotta say, the team being 4 games above .500 at the 10 game mark far exceeds my expectation from the Canucks, given the missing pieces. Even with Kes and Booth in the line up, I would have considered being 6-2-2 at this stage as a bonus.

There are some surprises (some pleasant, some not)...

(1) How long it's taking (taken?) the Sedins to find their game legs.
(2) Play of Kass, Schroeder, Raymond, Tanev, Ballard, Volpatti.
(3) Play of Lu and Schneider (take away CS's starts against the Ducks season opener and Sharks).
(4) Just how bad our PP is (function of no. 1).
(5) Just how good our PK is. EDIT: Just did a check and we are ranked 20th in PK...so this needs improvement, though it's looked good the last couple of games.
(6) The sloppiness that is Edler and Bieksa's game.
(7) The quiet efficiency of Tanev's game...he looks like a young right handed Hamhuis to me. And he certainly outplayed Justin Schultz the other night.
(8) Lack of improvement among our NW rivals. I thought for sure each of the teams in our division improved a lot, but so far, from what we have seen, this does not seem to be the case.

So, those are my observations at the 20% mark...still not really representative of what is to come this season, but things look much better than it did after game 2.


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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:08 AM

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:35 AM

I think weve been doing well, different players are stepping up every night to help get it done
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:49 AM

I look forward to see how this club will be once Kes and Booth are back as well as the returns for Lu in a trade. Otherwise, looking good enough to grab a playoff spot.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:52 AM

Usual slow start and now the team is coming together (I think Bieksa and Edler looked better last game). Not bad considering we don't really have a second line. It will only improve as our second line returns. I'm not thinking top of conferance this year, but probably division leaders.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:59 AM

Usual slow start and now the team is coming together (I think Bieksa and Edler looked better last game). Not bad considering we don't really have a second line. It will only improve as our second line returns. I'm not thinking top of conferance this year, but probably division leaders.


I disagree with the slow start for this year. First game they looked like crap and I figured it was coming as well.

10 games in this team has a 700 record. Last season 10 games in they had a 400 record. 20 games in last year they had a 550 record and they ended the season at under 700.

I'd say the slow start didn't really happen this year.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:26 AM

We've been lucky. If it weren't for Luongo playing like he has, our record would look more like 3-5-2.

We have a pretty decent 2.8 GPG, however this stat is inflated because we had one blowout and another big win. 9 goals reserved for two games, and suddenly we only scored an average of 2.38 GPG in the other 8.

Our offense is hurting without Kesler and Booth. We owe huge thanks to Luongo for where we are in the standings.

I just thought I'd make this known since Roberto is seldom given credit for anything he does.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:28 AM

We've been lucky. If it weren't for Luongo playing like he has, our record would look more like 3-5-2.

We have a pretty decent 2.8 GPG, however this stat is inflated because we had one blowout and another big win. 9 goals reserved for two games, and suddenly we only scored an average of 2.38 GPG in the other 8.

Our offense is hurting without Kesler and Booth. We owe huge thanks to Luongo for where we are in the standings.

I just thought I'd make this known since Roberto is seldom given credit for anything he does.


He certainly seemed to get a lot of the blame the last 2 seasons for starting slow.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:35 AM

Buddy on global news just said that the Nucks are off to their best start in 7 years. So yah, I'm happy with where we are at so far.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:41 AM

Usual slow start and now the team is coming together (I think Bieksa and Edler looked better last game). Not bad considering we don't really have a second line. It will only improve as our second line returns. I'm not thinking top of conferance this year, but probably division leaders.


Slow start, really? Other than the Ducks game what has been slow?
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:48 AM

We've been lucky. If it weren't for Luongo playing like he has, our record would look more like 3-5-2.

We have a pretty decent 2.8 GPG, however this stat is inflated because we had one blowout and another big win. 9 goals reserved for two games, and suddenly we only scored an average of 2.38 GPG in the other 8.

Our offense is hurting without Kesler and Booth. We owe huge thanks to Luongo for where we are in the standings.

I just thought I'd make this known since Roberto is seldom given credit for anything he does.


I don't know Lord...though it hasn't been the case in past couple of seasons, Bobby Lu has been getting a lot of love so far this season and is getting his fair share of the credit for the team's success to date.

I agree completely that his contribution has been a big reason for the 6-2-2 start to the season. In this shortened season, we need our goaltending to be better than our oppositions; and in 8 of the games so far, this has been the case.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:50 AM

We are almost one-quarter of the way through the shortened season and our team is showing reasonably well. This is a real test for all teams and the Canucks are performing better than most. I think the goalie situation will sort itself out on or before April 3. Here's to a great Hockey Day in Canada. Cheers!
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:51 AM

I think the best thing to look at is we have 14 points out of a possible 20 WITHOUT OUR BEST COMPLETE PLAYER. No one skater is more important to the success of this team then Ryan Kesler. He eases the scoring pressure of the Sedins, Eases the defensive faceoffs off Manny. Brings the depth that we are lacking at this moment. Our 'third' pairing of Ballard and Tanev look terrific. Im developing a Bromance for him.

And with lack of Improvement among our rivals the Oilers are not a terrible team anymore. Dubnyk has been real good, They are playing like what i thought the wild would.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:53 AM

10 games in and most of the team is getting up to speed coming off a long layoff. Without going into individual players I like the strength from the net out. The d-core looks better each game out. The forwards still have production issues as we wait for Kesler and Booth to return.

Questions;
Goaltending: Can MG find a top 6 by trading Lou that will make enough of a dif going into playoffs? Does he stick with what he has and gamble that Kesler and Booth will return with production.
Defence: As good as this group looks and it is a CUP quality group IMO, does it need a physical banger on the back end? I do not consider Ballard or Bieksa big enough to play that game on a consistant basis. Edler is but not inclined. The defence has to generate more offence off the points.

Forwards: Without a trade Raymond moves to 2LW and tires another round with Kes and Booth. A gamble by MG because that line has not ever been consistant. The 2nd line will determine the success of the season. It is not currently CUP quality with no guarantee of it being so when reconstituted.

As poorly as Minnie played on Thursday one has to give credit to the Canuck forwards. All four lines were rolling with authority. Their physical game stood out.

The biggest issue with the Canucks and their evaluation is always the regular season play vs playoffs. The current roster is one or two short of serious CUP contention. I predicted that Gillis would trade Lou between games #10 to #15. The Canucks know which teams have interest by now and all teams have a better idea of their needs. The issue is valuation.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:07 AM

Doing a lot better than the flames, but need to catch up with the hawks.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:27 AM

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10 games in... Lu's trade value has never been higher.






But I don't want him traded.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:07 AM

At least a few CDCers said they were going to wait until 10 games into the season before they started to pass judgment on the team.

So now that we've reached that milestone, what do people think of the Canucks' performance so far?

The team is 6-2-2, and, after a bit of a slow start, they are riding a four game win streak. They have beaten some strong teams (Chicago) and lost to some weaker ones (Edmonton, for example) And while they have not been dominant like, say, Boston has, their records is still good enough for Division Lead (albeit in a weak division).

Goaltending has been an obvious strength so far. After a shaky start against Anaheim, Schneids seems to have settled down and looked great the other night against the Wild. Luongo has looked fairly solid throughout.

For a team missing most of their second line, they have been getting decent secondary scoring. Defence also looked shaky the first few games but seems to be settling in.

Thoughts?


OP I don't think I would say Edmonton is a weaker team. They're 2nd in the division right now.

In a short season you're gonna have crappy games - hard to evaluate playing a 'crappy' team in the NHL.

Edm has some insane firepower and Dubnyk is 20 times better than he was 3 years ago.

All I'm saying is that it's hard to differentiate between not bad teams and crappy teams.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:21 AM





I gotta say, the team being 4 games above .500 at the 10 game mark far exceeds my expectation from the Canucks, given the missing pieces. Even with Kes and Booth in the line up, I would have considered being 6-2-2 at this stage as a bonus.

There are some surprises (some pleasant, some not)...

(1) How long it's taking (taken?) the Sedins to find their game legs.
(2) Play of Kass, Schroeder, Raymond, Tanev, Ballard, Volpatti.
(3) Play of Lu and Schneider (take away CS's starts against the Ducks season opener and Sharks).
(4) Just how bad our PP is (function of no. 1).
(5) Just how good our PK is.
(6) The sloppiness that is Edler and Bieksa's game.
(7) The quiet efficiency of Tanev's game...he looks like a young right handed Hamhuis to me. And he certainly outplayed Justin Schultz the other night.
(8) Lack of improvement among our NW rivals. I thought for sure each of the teams in our division improved a lot, but so far, from what we have seen, this does not seem to be the case.

So, those are my observations at the 20% mark...still not really representative of what is to come this season, but things look much better than it did after game 2.



I agree with every point made except for PK. That should be better considering the defensive specialists we have on our team, even with Kesler injured. I would also like to see the coaches telling the boys to move their sticks when plugging the lanes, NHL players are too skilled these days to worry about a stick simply laying in the passing lane. Move it around, make him guess!
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:25 AM

Lol people saying oh yeah schneider played unbelievable take away his games against ducks and sharks lol take away all the goalie losses and yeah they're amazing
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:27 AM

Well I must say I am happy with the Canucks play.

The goaltending has been outstanding and I know it can't go on for ever but I hope we get at least one more playoffs with both goalies.

The top 4 D men have looked good sometimes and mediocre at others but the emergence of the shut down pairing of Tanev and Ballard has no doubt eased that burden.

I have always defended MayRay and I know bandwagoners will always couple him up in trades, but luckily the management is alot more intelligent then the "lets trade Raymond" posters. He is going to have a break out year and will be a major part of our playoff run.

Kassian looks amazing every game. Breaking into the offensive zone, reading plays and knocking out teeth, he knows his role and plays it well. Look to him as a future Assistant Captain within the next 2 years.

Schroeder is looking great, after Kesler and Boothe are back and he gets sent down to the wolves, I expect him to really teach our prospects everything he learned this year and will hopefully contribute to the advancement of all our prospects.

AV, although looking like a complete gum chewing useless moron earlier in the season, has drastically upped his game. He is rolling lines and using players much more effectively over the last week and a half. Last game vs the Wild our players looked completely prepared for the game. Something I can not recall seeing at alll in the last couple seasons, and IMO was the main reason we lost to Boston and LA. If he keeps this up, we will win the Cup for sure.

DJ Dave has improved the tunes at the games and to not be subjected to top 40 and actually hear music that pumps up the fans and the players and has really overhauled the ambience at Rogers Arena.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:53 AM

Couldn't really have scripted it much better.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 12:01 PM

Lol people saying oh yeah schneider played unbelievable take away his games against ducks and sharks lol take away all the goalie losses and yeah they're amazing


Alpha-numeric dude...you don't seem to get the point that we're dealing with a small sample size of games; so good or bad, it's hard to make any real assessments at this point in time. Observations, for sure, but conclusions? Not likely.

When talking about goaltending, the reference is to collective efforts of both goalies over 10 games, and not specific to Schneider. It's a lot like establishing a handicap for your golf game...you take out the extreme highs (the two shutouts) and lows (Schneider's starts vs. Ducks/Sharks), work out the average on the norm and presto, you have your handicap. You getting it now, or does it have to dumbed down some more?

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 12:16 PM

10 games in and it's not what I expected missing Kesler let alone Booth.

I applaud GMMG for not making a hasty Luongo trade, and giving this team a chance to prove itself with the players we have currently.

So far this season exceeds my expectations, in all honesty IMO this would have been the season I wouldn't have minded a blowout season for a high draft pick, and maybe another high one in a Luongo trade...But I'm not gonna argue with winning!
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 12:48 PM



I gotta say, the team being 4 games above .500 at the 10 game mark far exceeds my expectation from the Canucks, given the missing pieces. Even with Kes and Booth in the line up, I would have considered being 6-2-2 at this stage as a bonus.



Not to take anything away from your other points (which I agree with) but 6-2-2 is 2 games above .500.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 12:55 PM

Alpha-numeric dude...you don't seem to get the point that we're dealing with a small sample size of games; so good or bad, it's hard to make any real assessments at this point in time. Observations, for sure, but conclusions? Not likely.

When talking about goaltending, the reference is to collective efforts of both goalies over 10 games, and not specific to Schneider. It's a lot like establishing a handicap for your golf game...you take out the extreme highs (the two shutouts) and lows (Schneider's starts vs. Ducks/Sharks), work out the average on the norm and presto, you have your handicap. You getting it now, or does it have to dumbed down some more?


I think you need to dumb it down more for him as he is dumber than expected. :)
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 12:59 PM

Around the 15-20 game mark will give us a better understanding of what teams will look like.. Right now it looks good, but that can change in three games with a three game losing streak... Chicago, San Jose, and Anaheim look good right now, but once they start losing two regulation games in a row, we'll see what they can do about that.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 01:00 PM

We've been lucky. If it weren't for Luongo playing like he has, our record would look more like 3-5-2.

We have a pretty decent 2.8 GPG, however this stat is inflated because we had one blowout and another big win. 9 goals reserved for two games, and suddenly we only scored an average of 2.38 GPG in the other 8.

Our offense is hurting without Kesler and Booth. We owe huge thanks to Luongo for where we are in the standings.

I just thought I'd make this known since Roberto is seldom given credit for anything he does.


Yeah but you can`t just take games out to make the stats say something else. I`m sure every team this year has some high scoring games, thats why it is called an average. I could just take out the games we allowed the fewest goals to show the opposite argument haha. I think our scoring is doing just fine. And yes I completely agree about Luongo, He has been our best player in my opinion
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