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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:43 AM

Anyone care?
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:47 PM

I think I'll watch it tonight.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:05 PM

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:09 PM

just an awful list of nominations
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:22 PM

just an awful list of nominations


I've always liked your elitist approach to things.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:26 PM

List of nominations below...Careful it's long.

I predict a Black Keys sweep but hope Jack white gets one or two as well.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:33 PM

Meaningless popularity contest that is "rigged" .. do I want to watch it? .. I prefer a re-run of the BBC news from last August .. :towel:
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:39 PM

This would be a much better thread if it was . "Granny's tonight"
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:40 PM

Anyone care?


Nope

Awards shows are a waste.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:46 PM

I've always liked your elitist approach to things.


i don't think it has anything to do with elitism. i couldn't care less if my favourite musicians win awards. personally, i love pop culture, and i watch a lot of award shows, read countless year-end-lists, and all that. i don't need or want MY taste to be stroked and enforced, i just enjoy the discussion over the arts

however, the grammys are a different kind of garbage all together. the grammys don't award high culture, nor do they even acknowledge low culture. say what you will about the oscars, but at least they acknowledge the spectrum from time to time. the grammys ceremony, on the other hand, is entirely about rewarding those who ride gently down the middle of the road and achieve respectable if not phenomenal record sales. the committee is corrupt (and that ain't no tin foil hat stuff), and the program is about ratings and money, nothing more and nothing less.

don't get me wrong, i'm sure a lot of people think--zzzzz-the black keys are the best rock band in the world, and many others still consider marilyn manson a vital (and best?) 'metal band'

but who are the people who believe carly rae jepsom (or whatever), mumford and sons, jack white, and ed sheeran are the high point of (north) american music this year? nobody. nobody except a handful of children (those who spend the money), and those who make money off them. middle of the road garbage. tooootally boring.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:42 PM

I haven't watched the Grammys in years. Considering my age and musical tastes, I pretty much hate everything on the show.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:45 PM

i don't think it has anything to do with elitism. i couldn't care less if my favourite musicians win awards. personally, i love pop culture, and i watch a lot of award shows, read countless year-end-lists, and all that. i don't need or want MY taste to be stroked and enforced, i just enjoy the discussion over the arts

however, the grammys are a different kind of garbage all together. the grammys don't award high culture, nor do they even acknowledge low culture. say what you will about the oscars, but at least they acknowledge the spectrum from time to time. the grammys ceremony, on the other hand, is entirely about rewarding those who ride gently down the middle of the road and achieve respectable if not phenomenal record sales. the committee is corrupt (and that ain't no tin foil hat stuff), and the program is about ratings and money, nothing more and nothing less.

don't get me wrong, i'm sure a lot of people think--zzzzz-the black keys are the best rock band in the world, and many others still consider marilyn manson a vital (and best?) 'metal band'

but who are the people who believe carly rae jepsom (or whatever), mumford and sons, jack white, and ed sheeran are the high point of (north) american music this year? nobody. nobody except a handful of children (those who spend the money), and those who make money off them. middle of the road garbage. tooootally boring.


To add to that, there is nothing wrong with listening to pop music. There are a few pop songs that I'll shamelessly admit to enjoying.

But the vast, vast, vast majority of it is manufactured. It has no artistic integrity, it follows the formula of what will sell and what will get radio plays. And the Grammy's actually think that "artists" like Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Carly Rae Jepsen, the list goes on, are the pinnacle of musical achievement. That's why the Grammys are a joke.

If you like that, more power to you. I'm not going to judge. But awarding the shallow pop music titles like "Album of the year?".

It really is a popularity contest.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:46 PM

Nope...... walking dead returns tonight and a new episode of family guy is all I need.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 03:19 PM

Nope, I'll be out doing something real tonight.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:10 PM

This would be a much better thread if it was . "Granny's tonight"


You're into Granny type stuff. Okay then.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:35 PM

Nope, I'll be out doing something real tonight.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:40 PM

The Canadian rapper, Drake won his first grammy today.....if anyone cares
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:30 PM

i don't think it has anything to do with elitism. i couldn't care less if my favourite musicians win awards. personally, i love pop culture, and i watch a lot of award shows, read countless year-end-lists, and all that. i don't need or want MY taste to be stroked and enforced, i just enjoy the discussion over the arts

however, the grammys are a different kind of garbage all together. the grammys don't award high culture, nor do they even acknowledge low culture. say what you will about the oscars, but at least they acknowledge the spectrum from time to time. the grammys ceremony, on the other hand, is entirely about rewarding those who ride gently down the middle of the road and achieve respectable if not phenomenal record sales. the committee is corrupt (and that ain't no tin foil hat stuff), and the program is about ratings and money, nothing more and nothing less.

don't get me wrong, i'm sure a lot of people think--zzzzz-the black keys are the best rock band in the world, and many others still consider marilyn manson a vital (and best?) 'metal band'

but who are the people who believe carly rae jepsom (or whatever), mumford and sons, jack white, and ed sheeran are the high point of (north) american music this year? nobody. nobody except a handful of children (those who spend the money), and those who make money off them. middle of the road garbage. tooootally boring.


Just curious, what would you consider as the high points of American music of 2012?
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:47 PM

Just curious, what would you consider as the high points of American music of 2012?


oh jeez, no

do you realize who you just asked that question???

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:56 PM

Just curious, what would you consider as the high points of American music of 2012?


aw come on, don't ask me that. i think it depends on genre and what you're into.

but when you look at who won at the grammys, you can see some examples.

mumford and sons won best album, so what are mumford and sons? a middle of the road folk rock band. their song lyrics are generic, their music is a reflection of the folk-y trend in indie music that blew up over the last decade, not their uniqueness at all.

in terms of folk music, i'd say Grizzly Bear's Shields was much more adventurous, with more interesting songwriting, and was near the front of almost every critics year end list.

mumford and sons' babel, on the other hand, was a received as a middle-of-the-road record by even mainstream critics. a few people who i know that enjoy the band weren't even all that psyched on it.

"fun." winning best new artist is ridiculous for a few reasons, worst of which is that the band has been around for well over 4 years, and their debut album (in 2009) received significant attention by many critics and listeners. new? not likely.

having megadeath, iron maiden, and marilyn manson nominated for metal acts in 2013, i'm sure would please fans of classic metal, but if you're a big fan of the genre, could you honestly say that the best metal bands out there today are the same bands that were the best 20 or 30 years ago?

was kanye west and jay z's 'watch the throne' progressive, problematic, or interesting at all? nope. kendrick lamar's 'maad city' was significantly more interesting than kanye west or drake or any of the others, for rap

if you're curious about albums that received high critical acclaim and high fan adoration from across the board, this website keeps track of most noteworthy publications and fan voting: http://www.albumofth...st-rated/2012/1

to be honest, i don't think you could go wrong with discussing any of that stuff long before you bring up mumford and fun.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:59 PM

Yeah, fun. winning was stupid. Guys are old as hell and have been around for awhile. Kinda surprised the call me maybe chick didn't win anything, that song was everywhere and catchy, even if you hated it.

Actually found most of the performers and songs that won.. all kind of sucked. Just a bad year for 'commercial' music I guess.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:05 PM

Frank Ocean sang terribly. probably couldn't hear properly or something.

JT and Jay-Z's performance was fun. speaking of fun., they're so awful. 2012 was a particularly painful pop music year for me because i really hate gotye, mumford and fun.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:10 PM

fun fact: that fun. song is my mom's favorite.

i'm 30 lol
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:25 PM

Glad Halestorm won, Lzzy Hale gets my engine running. Girl can belt..
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:07 PM

I personally loved seeing Zac Brown Band win best country album.. They're awesome, and I don't think anyone could call them generic.

Oh and Rihanna was hot as usual

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:09 PM

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:33 PM

Oh and Rihanna was hot as usual


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:42 AM

oh jeez, no

do you realize who you just asked that question???


no lol

aw come on, don't ask me that. i think it depends on genre and what you're into.

but when you look at who won at the grammys, you can see some examples.

mumford and sons won best album, so what are mumford and sons? a middle of the road folk rock band. their song lyrics are generic, their music is a reflection of the folk-y trend in indie music that blew up over the last decade, not their uniqueness at all.

in terms of folk music, i'd say Grizzly Bear's Shields was much more adventurous, with more interesting songwriting, and was near the front of almost every critics year end list.

mumford and sons' babel, on the other hand, was a received as a middle-of-the-road record by even mainstream critics. a few people who i know that enjoy the band weren't even all that psyched on it.

"fun." winning best new artist is ridiculous for a few reasons, worst of which is that the band has been around for well over 4 years, and their debut album (in 2009) received significant attention by many critics and listeners. new? not likely.

having megadeath, iron maiden, and marilyn manson nominated for metal acts in 2013, i'm sure would please fans of classic metal, but if you're a big fan of the genre, could you honestly say that the best metal bands out there today are the same bands that were the best 20 or 30 years ago?

was kanye west and jay z's 'watch the throne' progressive, problematic, or interesting at all? nope. kendrick lamar's 'maad city' was significantly more interesting than kanye west or drake or any of the others, for rap

if you're curious about albums that received high critical acclaim and high fan adoration from across the board, this website keeps track of most noteworthy publications and fan voting: http://www.albumofth...st-rated/2012/1

to be honest, i don't think you could go wrong with discussing any of that stuff long before you bring up mumford and fun.


I'm personally a fan of Mumford & Sons. The first song I ever heard by them was "Little Lion Man" when a friend had included it on a mix for me. I think this may have been late 2009 or early 2010, prior to them blowing up with worldwide recognition through radio airplay and their nominations as well as performance at the 2010 Grammy's. But still, when I first heard them, I thought they were pretty unique. I haven't heard of a lot of folk/Americana music prior to hearing their music, but I quite liked their sound, lyrics, and the various instruments they used for their songs (like the mandolin!). I don't think they're really that overrated, but maybe their huge mainsteam success kind of irks me a bit. I wouldn't say Babel was a bad album, but I know several of my friends were not too into it because they thought it'd be more like the energetic sound they heard in Sigh No More.

I am a fan of Grizzly Bear too. Shields is great. I really liked Veckatimest, didn't think I'd like Shields so much more. But I understand what you mean. Sometimes that bands that truly deserve recognition, don't. And to risk sounding like a hipster or a jackass, I'm kind of glad they don't get that huge recognition sometimes, just so they don't attract the mainstream bandwagoners who'll jump on anything popular.

And YES. I agree with you about the Best New Artist category. Every year, I feel like the Grammy's or the Juno's will nominate a band or artist who's been around for a while as a best new artist, and that really annoys me. I was a big fan of indie band The Format (led by fun. frontman Nate Ruess), so I really liked fun.'s debut album "Aim and Ignite". Did it come out in 2009? Time really flies. But I was definitely not feeling this new album. And don't even get me started on the amount of airplay that "We Are Young" gets. If I hear that song one more time..
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:48 AM

I actually like the 'Some Nights' song.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:50 AM

no lol



I'm personally a fan of Mumford & Sons. The first song I ever heard by them was "Little Lion Man" when a friend had included it on a mix for me. I think this may have been late 2009 or early 2010, prior to them blowing up with worldwide recognition through radio airplay and their nominations as well as performance at the 2010 Grammy's. But still, when I first heard them, I thought they were pretty unique. I haven't heard of a lot of folk/Americana music prior to hearing their music, but I quite liked their sound, lyrics, and the various instruments they used for their songs (like the mandolin!). I don't think they're really that overrated, but maybe their huge mainsteam success kind of irks me a bit. I wouldn't say Babel was a bad album, but I know several of my friends were not too into it because they thought it'd be more like the energetic sound they heard in Sigh No More.

I am a fan of Grizzly Bear too. Shields is great. I really liked Veckatimest, didn't think I'd like Shields so much more. But I understand what you mean. Sometimes that bands that truly deserve recognition, don't. And to risk sounding like a hipster or a jackass, I'm kind of glad they don't get that huge recognition sometimes, just so they don't attract the mainstream bandwagoners who'll jump on anything popular.

And YES. I agree with you about the Best New Artist category. Every year, I feel like the Grammy's or the Juno's will nominate a band or artist who's been around for a while as a best new artist, and that really annoys me. I was a big fan of indie band The Format (led by fun. frontman Nate Ruess), so I really liked fun.'s debut album "Aim and Ignite". Did it come out in 2009? Time really flies. But I was definitely not feeling this new album. And don't even get me started on the amount of airplay that "We Are Young" gets. If I hear that song one more time..


i guess that's the rub, isn't it? believing Grizzly Bear deserves success and acclaim and recognition, but secretly not wanting them to have it for fear of how it'll change everything :)

but then again, when Bon Iver somehow managed to win last year, and Arcade Fire put their own dent in the awards and somehow walked out with their credibility, i sort of thought the Grammys were turning a new page. But this year was just a giant step in the wrong direction, i think

and i didn't mean to rag on Mumford too hard. but have you heard bands like The Lumineers? Or that "Little Talks" song by Of Monsters and Men? They all sound and look exactly alike. Even though the songs are really good in that "radio hit" way, they don't take any chances at all, and they're following the formula that Mumford popularized, so I don't know where to direct my hate, as my precious folk music well is being poisoned by the mainstream

And when Mumford goes home to his mansion and A-list celebrity wife, I have a hard time buying into his heartache. Mumford and Sons are just like a new, unproven version of Coldplay for me. They may achieve the same amount of success, they both have the celebrity wives, they both had origins in an indie pretence, and they use that pretence to achieve stadium-filling success. cynics like myself will dismiss it as shallow music tailor made to fit a tried and true formula, but i can't pretend i don't really enjoy a handful of coldplay songs, and i'll probably dig a few mumford ones along the way, too

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