Wetcoaster Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 'making rational inferences' can be deeply flawed for a number of reasons. People are not robotically making unbiased, 100% rational inferences. Do you actually think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I do not see the flaw in the first approach as it is based upon facts and rational decision making while the second approach is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Because, if you base (another word for bias) a decision upon past history it means you're limiting your outcome. Just because 5 dogs in a row jumped the the fence and chased a car doesn't mean that dog number 6 is going to. Probability is different from rationality. There are no facts that dog number 6 likes to chase cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I never limited it to only past history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Better than blind faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I agree, but certainly not bias free as you suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 So...you included future history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Perhaps not. Cardinal Peter Turkson is considered a front runner in the running of the 2013 Popery Sweepstakes. Also Cardinal Francis Arinze http://www.policymic...i-s-replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 First Obama, now this. Soon all corrupt organizations will be lead by black men! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I never said it was bias free nor suggested it. Just a better mode of assessment. In the case of the Catholic Church past history seems to be repeated constantly as we have seem with the pedophile priest situations around the world. The latest forced court disclosure of documents from the LA diocese bears that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Again...just because 5 did it doesn't mean number 6 will. That's not rational thinking at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 You are trying to shift to something that I have never claimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I never said it was bias free nor suggested it. Just a better mode of assessment. In the case of the Catholic Church past history seems to be repeated constantly as we have seem with the pedophile priest situations around the world. The latest forced court disclosure of documents from the LA diocese bears that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 That you're a rational thinker? Sure seems a lot of references in this thread alone that you're basing your viewpoint on the past. Actually, your viewpoint seems to be based on only the negative events of the past. BTW, I'm not defending the Catholic church nor anyone who has done something bad - I'm merely pointing out that your viewpoint is closer to blind faith as you define it than a rational one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Not so. The Catholic Church has proved itself incapable of dealing with pedophile priests and nothing has changed as more and more information comes to light about the manner in which the Church hierarchy has obstructed justice and failed to comply with its own policies on these matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I think in lawyer's parlance, it's "innocent until proven broke", isn't it Wet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 After all this time, do we (humans) still have pedophiles? Why is that? I guess the human race has failed overall all hasn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I think in lawyer's parlance, it's "innocent until proven broke", isn't it Wet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I think in lawyer's parlance, it's "innocent until proven broke", isn't it Wet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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