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[Proposal] NYR and Van? Anyone else?

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The Rangers are a team that doesn't have a lot of needs right now. They haven't done well in the standing but are trying to climb back up as they currently sit in 8th in the East - although teams like Toronto and Pittsburgh who are 4 points ahead in the standings have played two more games.

The one situation that's interesting is Brian Boyle is about to sit for his 3rd game in a row as a healthy scratch. Stepan has been centering the second line and Miller has been good after coming up (Kreider is listed as a center some sites but has been playing LW for them).

Boyle’s struggles this season are well documented, going beyond his ugly stat line (no goals, one assist, minus-3) as Rangers head coach John Tortorella took aim at Boyle’s poor performance in various facets of the game, including two he values highly.

“[boyle] hasn’t done a good job killing penalties; I don’t think he’s done a good enough job blocking shots,”Tortorella said last week.

While it might sound like the relationship between player and coach is at an all-time low, Torts was quick to point out he hasn’t written off Boyle entirely.

“When Brian gets in, like I said, I hope he never lets me put myself in this decision again,” Tortorella explained. “”I believe Brian will be a big part of it, I just don’t know when I’ll change the lineup.”

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Sign me up. I think Boyle is that big third line center we've been missing for a while

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theyd probably want raymond not a prospect. Id personally try and push harder for a better upgrade. dream would be O'reilly

hes huge 6'7 244lb, not sure how well he skates does anyone? as we have good speed on the 3rd line, could he keep up?

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Boyle is not slow by NHL standards, but is not fast either.

He would have trouble keeping up with Hansen and Raymond, but not an issue with Higgins or Kassian.

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I don't think Boyle is worth a 2nd in this draft, maybe a 3rd, but overall I think he would be a great addition for our 4th line.

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theyd probably want raymond not a prospect. Id personally try and push harder for a better upgrade. dream would be O'reilly

hes huge 6'7 244lb, not sure how well he skates does anyone? as we have good speed on the 3rd line, could he keep up?

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they have 2 rookies playing in the top 9, hagelin has his ups and downs. raymond would provide excellent speed and could play anywhere in their top 9, pk and if he shows chemistry maybe be given a shot on 2nd pp.

We have the depth, and for us trading a speedster for something that is more of a need. Like a 3rd line center

Once booth and kesler are back, we still lack a more veteran proven 3rd line center. For a playoff run and more physical presence schroeder is not our ideal 3rd line center.

Not saying boyle is the best choice but its an option i suppose.

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when taylor pyatt is on your top 6 which i believe he has been on occasion, thats easy, id take raymond over pyatt playing those kind of minutes

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In my ever so honest opinion, Torts is a fantastic coach and is able to get alot out of players....much like AV. Now if Torts is unhappy and cant light a fire under a players keestet then there is something wrong with that player. Maybe Boyle needs change of scenery? Has discovered that being a pro athlete in NTC area doesnt make fiscal sense? There seems to be a good storm brewing with the Rags not meeting up to expectations after coughin up alot to get Nash in the off-season. This just goes to prove all you arm chair fellas who have model line-ups with a stacked over-priced first line, and forced to plug in cheap 2/3/4th lines. Surely Sather balances this out or makes changes at trade deadline. If they want to say throw Dan Girardi this way, that would be nice too lol..... Jusss sayinnnn

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I'll take Schroeder over Boyle. I'd look at getting Jaden Schwartz out of St.Louis though. He doesn't have a place in their top 6 where he thrives and his numbers have been poor this year. He was scratched their last game.

Schwartz's speed and playmaking would be a great addition to the Nucks or at the very least he would receive 1st line minutes and Powerplay time on the Wolves.

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I'll take Schroeder over Boyle. I'd look at getting Jaden Schwartz out of St.Louis though. He doesn't have a place in their top 6 where he thrives and his numbers have been poor this year. He was scratched their last game.

Schwartz's speed and playmaking would be a great addition to the Nucks or at the very least he would receive 1st line minutes and Powerplay time on the Wolves.

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I'm not talking about using Boyle for the 2nd line at all, I'd rather keep Schroeder there as well. When it comes to the third line however, Boyle is a much better option. Depending on who's playing well, Lappy on the 3rd for more speed and Boyle on the 4th for size and toughness could also work, he's just a bit more expensive to have there.

I don't see bringing in another top 6 C unless he's a clear upgrade to push Kesler to the wing, or a future fit that is still developing.

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One question though, and I may have missed this, but, where does Malhotra fit in all of this?

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Rangers healthy fwds

Nash - Richards - Gaborik

Kreider - Stepan - Callahan

Hagelin - Boyle (Miller if he got traded) - Pyatt

Asham - Halpern - Powe

Don't see much room for Raymond, maybe could push Pyatt down

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One question though, and I may have missed this, but, where does Malhotra fit in all of this?

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If we can get him for cheap, sure. But I think other teams would be able to offer something a bit better.

Really though we don't have a need for him, even throwing JS aside, when healthy we have Max who Boyle isn't an upgrade on, and Manny for the 4th line role.

(I know people think he is "useless", but he is very unappreciated, not sure what people expect from a 4th line center, but having a 4th line center who is a PK specialist and the best faceoff man in the league is someone I am very satisfied having for that role)

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I like Lapierre, and think he's good as a 3rd line center but he's never had a lot of offensive production. He got 19 last year, but he's only had one year above that (28) with Montreal in 2008/09. Boyle's had 26 last year and 35 the year prior, and you expect something more along the lines of that for production in your top 9.

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