Smashian Kassian Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Bringing 'grit' is just hockey jargon for not being tough enough. 'Grit guys' are always the guys that end up on the wrong side of an ass whuppin'. Grit guys are beta's that don't scare anyone. We have the market cornered on 'grit' already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Well thats what everyone else has. So I guess they are in the same boat as us then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Well thats what everyone else has. So I guess they are in the same boat as us then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I actually wish that you could win a cup with no toughness like Gillis and the Red Wings and the Canadiens brass believes you can. But I think if anything, the pendulum has swung the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I actually wish that you could win a cup with no toughness like Gillis and the Red Wings and the Canadiens brass believes you can. But I think if anything, the pendulum has swung the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Yea, I don't know why people seem to think that every other team is so tough. There are few teams in the league that are actually really tough. The Canucks have enough toughness to match most of the teams in the league. Of course if we can add a tough guy that can play we will, but those players aren't readily available very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwnstar Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Don Cherry also said this on Saturday. There is a point to having enforcer-types and bangers, yes. But what the senile old fart forgot is that TO has seen a lot of those guys come and go during this long, long playoff drought. But now it's a 'formula'? Please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromeslab Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Toughness?pfffft were more than tough enough we just need timely goaltending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I admit I'm just spitballin' here, but imagine if we then pried Mike Brown out of Toronto somehow. Suddenly your fourth line is Volpatti-Konopka-Brown. All three are mid-sized tough players that can skate, and they play for very little money. Doesn't this little bit of tinkering change the look quite a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien37 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 The guys I highlighted aren't tough fighters. If they are all classified as tough guys, then we have: Kesler, Kassian, Bieksa, Hansen, Lappierre, Volpatti, Weise, Burrows, Garrison, Ballard, Alberts who all fall under that category aswell then. Toughness in the playoffs is about physicality, an areas we have continued to address and have addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 This is why you have to get guys who can play. Not goons, otherwise they can do stupid things that can cost you. Everyone wants to get Troy Brouwer, to add this major jolt of toughness. But he only has 1 fight in his entire playoff career, and it was against Kevin Bieksa in a blowout game, and it wasn't even a fight, it was more like a scrum with punches being thrown. Playoff toughness isn't what you guys think it is, and we don't lack it when compared to most teams other than the Bruins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Toughness?pfffft were more than tough enough we just need timely goaltending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Wasn't Zenon Kanopka a UFA last summer? I think he would change the dynamic quite a bit if you slide him into Lapierre's spot. Signed for less than Lapierre too!! http://www.capgeek.com/player/913 http://www.capgeek.com/player/85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromeslab Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Au contraire. The last two times out the Bruins and the Kings kicked sand in our faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 LOL. OK here is my cue to stop this discussion with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Kenopka's a good faceoff guy, and I wouldn't mind adding him. But Lapierre adds more to the team than Kenopka. Who would you rather have out on the ice in the dying minutes of a 1 goal lead, Lapierre or Kenopka? I think I would go with Lapierre. If we wanna add legitimate toughness, I think it needs to be someone that plays regular minutes in our top 9. That's why I still think Troy Brouwer would be the perfect addition to this team. I would give up any one of our prospects other than Jensen to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 You need to brush up on your knowledge about other teams players before starting this discussion. You clearly have NO idea who Jordan Nolan or Dwight King are or have ever seen Boychuk or Chara fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien37 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 LOL Yeah and you think Chara, Mitchell, Greene and Richards. Exc. are tough fighters. I shouldn't have even replied considering Burrows has more fights than Brown & Horton. And Ballard has more fights than Mitchell, & Boychuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Au contrarie we were out goaltended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien37 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I think you need to realize what toughness actually is in the playoffs, its not fighting. Jordan Nolan and Dwight King are both productive players, that fight. Like Weise, Volpatti and Lappierre. They aren't goons, they actually bring things to the game like Lappierre, Weise and Volpatti do. I'm sorry we aren't going to bring in a Jay Rosehill. If anything the guy we bring in would have to add more to the team than Lappierre does, or than Weise does. We aren't going to have a goon just for the sake of having a goon, because he isn't needed in the playoffs. That's what you seem to be missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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