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#91 canuckleheadder

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:06 PM

I was not comparing myself to Joe Sakic. My point is you don't have to yell and swear and sing to be a true hockey fan. Some of us have to work 12-16 hour shifts before we come to the game. Or we have to leave the game because of something. Is anyone really complaining about me leaving a game halfway though because I was on call and had to see a patient? Or calling/texting about a patients condition?
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:09 PM

I was not comparing myself to Joe Sakic. My point is you don't have to yell and swear and sing to be a true hockey fan. Some of us have to work 12-16 hour shifts before we come to the game. Or we have to leave the game because of something. Is anyone really complaining about me leaving a game halfway though because I was on call and had to see a patient? Or calling/texting about a patients condition?


yes.......I think that's one of the main complaints, is it not? You're there to watch and cheer on the Canucks, not sit on your phone and watch the game out of the corer of your eye. That's what TV broadcasts are for. Just my opinion though.........must be nice to blow big wads of cash to watch something you don't seem to care much about.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:11 PM

i've sat beside rowdiness... = swearing at players and refs, making sick jokes, yelling and standing up when nothing is going on..


When were you sitting by me? No but really it's a hockey game as long as the language stays in check I see no problem with the rest of it, your just to used to sitting and watching quietly. It's understandable that's what it's like there someone who looks like they are having fun sticks put like a sore thumb.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:17 PM

I've seen it happen.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:17 PM

I was not comparing myself to Joe Sakic. My point is you don't have to yell and swear and sing to be a true hockey fan. Some of us have to work 12-16 hour shifts before we come to the game. Or we have to leave the game because of something. Is anyone really complaining about me leaving a game halfway though because I was on call and had to see a patient? Or calling/texting about a patients condition?


I'm sorry but, yes, it is a problem. The fact that you paid the money doesn't change the fact that you are not contributing to the experience more positively than someone else would (you know, the other 4,000 people on the wait list).

If you show up late and leave early, which it sounds like you may, while not being fully committed to being 'present' during a game, which has limited seating capacity, or spend your time in the concourse rather than in the bowl, then you along with people like you are contributing to the lack of emotion that is paramount to the experience. IMHO, you actually sound spoiled.

You do realize your empty seat is fully visible on TV, correct? Aren't you embarrassed by that fact?

Edited by theminister, 13 February 2013 - 04:26 PM.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:20 PM

yes.......I think that's one of the main complaints, is it not? You're there to watch and cheer on the Canucks, not sit on your phone and watch the game out of the corer of your eye. That's what TV broadcasts are for. Just my opinion though.........must be nice to blow big wads of cash to watch something you don't seem to care much about.

I clearly do care. I'm a huge Canucks' fan but I have bigger responsibilities in my life then just the Canucks. I don't watch out of the corner of my eye either. I'm focused on the game period. However I can't sacrifice the rest of my life. People depend on me. Thats what some people don't get. Some people love the Canucks but we do have bigger priorities in life.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:31 PM

What was the point of the interview with de Bonis, they let him off so easy. It would've been nice if Blake and Sekeras actually told him what the people calling in to the station were saying all day. They had the chance to tell de Bonis that the fans are unhappy with the restrictions put on them by the security and they didn't even mention that.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:41 PM

I clearly do care. I'm a huge Canucks' fan but I have bigger responsibilities in my life then just the Canucks. I don't watch out of the corner of my eye either. I'm focused on the game period. However I can't sacrifice the rest of my life. People depend on me. Thats what some people don't get. Some people love the Canucks but we do have bigger priorities in life.


Keep pumping yourself up eh?
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:47 PM

Yes it is.

Re watch the SCF, and hear what Craig Simpson said of the crowd. "the crowd is dead"


Experience it yourself yet? Have you? Were you there when the crowd chanted Manny for like 15 straight minutes non-stop? Were you there when Burrows potted the goal and the place when absolutely nuts? Did you experience Lappy score in Game 5 and the whole place went absolutely bonkers? Were you there when the crowed Luu'd when he saved Sharp's shot in OT?

Yeah, exactly.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:54 PM

I know what a joke!!! One time I even got kicked out for being to quite!!! yup TO QUIET!!!! christ who do they think they are?? I made many consession stops that night and was so quite I was sleeping!!! I must have gave them ATLEAST $100 in beer sales by my self then after that they had the nerve to kick me out for being to quite. Since when did sleeping in your chair disturbe anyone?
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:58 PM

I clearly do care. I'm a huge Canucks' fan but I have bigger responsibilities in my life then just the Canucks. I don't watch out of the corner of my eye either. I'm focused on the game period. However I can't sacrifice the rest of my life. People depend on me. Thats what some people don't get. Some people love the Canucks but we do have bigger priorities in life.


I don't doubt you love the Canucks, but you're a pretty clear example of the kind of fan that people complain about in Rogers. When you are at the game, the game should be your priority, if it's not then watch on TV and let someone else get seasons tix.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:02 PM

I've been to one game and even when I went the security was telling everyone to be quiet and calm down and I was sitting near the top, what a joke, we should all write a letter and complain.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:03 PM

I know what a joke!!! One time I even got kicked out for being to quite!!! yup TO QUIET!!!! christ who do they think they are?? I made many consession stops that night and was so quite I was sleeping!!! I must have gave them ATLEAST $100 in beer sales by my self then after that they had the nerve to kick me out for being to quite. Since when did sleeping in your chair disturbe anyone?

Being so drunk you fall asleep is a perfect reason to kick you out.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:08 PM

Experience it yourself yet? Have you? Were you there when the crowd chanted Manny for like 15 straight minutes non-stop? Were you there when Burrows potted the goal and the place when absolutely nuts? Did you experience Lappy score in Game 5 and the whole place went absolutely bonkers? Were you there when the crowed Luu'd when he saved Sharp's shot in OT?

Yeah, exactly.


Unless youv'e had season tickets since 1988 than, I've probably been to more games than you. So save your pathetic, condescensing opinion. The crowd was louder back in the Coliseum and the crowds are louder in other arena's.

Maybe you should go check out a hockey game in any other city and see what hockey atmosphere should be like before you express your sheltered opinion.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:12 PM

Yeah I was at this game (hoping Henrik would pick up some points). I heard the chanting, thought it was awesome. I actually was saying to the person next to me I wish I was closer so I could hear the words and learn the song. It was far away from me so it didn't sound that loud. It could be loud if you are next to them, but really (like someone mentioned earlier) you are at a live sporting event, watching our national sport. Hockey. Plus you are watching one of the best teams in the league.

I guess what I am saying is. Make some noise or stay at home.


:)


Also, does anyone know the words to our anthem? People were looking at me cockeyed just singing the words at a normal volume.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:14 PM

Unless youv'e had season tickets since 1988 than, I've probably been to more games than you. So save your pathetic, condescensing opinion. The crowd was louder back in the Coliseum and the crowds are louder in other arena's.

Maybe you should go check out a hockey game in any other city and see what hockey atmosphere should be like before you express your sheltered opinion.


I'm confused.....you're running down the atmosphere in Rogers, yet you admit that you sit quietly and text during the game, or leave part way through. That's like Vader saying "you know what's wrong with the Death Star? Too much Dark Side"
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:23 PM

I'm confused.....you're running down the atmosphere in Rogers, yet you admit that you sit quietly and text during the game, or leave part way through. That's like Vader saying "you know what's wrong with the Death Star? Too much Dark Side"

I think you're a bit confused there are two Canuckles
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:26 PM

I think you're a bit confused there are two Canuckles


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:44 PM

I'm sorry but, yes, it is a problem. The fact that you paid the money doesn't change the fact that you are not contributing to the experience more positively than someone else would (you know, the other 4,000 people on the wait list).

If you show up late and leave early, which it sounds like you may, while not being fully committed to being 'present' during a game, which has limited seating capacity, or spend your time in the concourse rather than in the bowl, then you along with people like you are contributing to the lack of emotion that is paramount to the experience. IMHO, you actually sound spoiled.

You do realize your empty seat is fully visible on TV, correct? Aren't you embarrassed by that fact?

If I've read this incorrectly, ignore the following comments. If I haven't, c'mon, be fair about it.

Just because someone does something as a career that means they can't attend every game from start to finish doesn't mean they don't have a right to be there. I'd absolutely agree if you aren't being a part of the atmosphere in the arena that you aren't contributing to it, but is that something to lay blame on someone for when they are present as much as they can be and are actual hockey fans?

We know there are people there who don't really know what's going on and sit quietly, and there are some that are very knowledgeable but don't do as much to yell and make noise. That's the way it is, you aren't going to change those people into more fanatic than fan. Nor should those people (or the people who actual own the tickets) have to sell them so someone who's louder can take their place.

Would it be nice if there was more buzz in Rogers Arena? Sure. Would it be nice if we managed that without preventing others from enjoying the experience by blocking their view or being rude and obnoxious? Absolutely. Should people who are more reserved but still fans give up tickets, or should corporations/businesses who buy tickets to give to customers/employees step aside for people that do a better job of cheering? No, and it's unrealistic to think that'd even be possible in a market with higher demand than supply.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:54 PM

canuckleheadder, Dude, dont bother. Plebs have an "eat the rich" mentality these days. They are supposed to be able to do whatever they want be cause they bought a ticket and then turn around and give you crap when you decide to do whatever it is you want with your ticket. Effin hippocrites. Everything you say will just make the posts stupider and stupider.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 06:56 PM

If I've read this incorrectly, ignore the following comments. If I haven't, c'mon, be fair about it.

Just because someone does something as a career that means they can't attend every game from start to finish doesn't mean they don't have a right to be there. I'd absolutely agree if you aren't being a part of the atmosphere in the arena that you aren't contributing to it, but is that something to lay blame on someone for when they are present as much as they can be and are actual hockey fans?

We know there are people there who don't really know what's going on and sit quietly, and there are some that are very knowledgeable but don't do as much to yell and make noise. That's the way it is, you aren't going to change those people into more fanatic than fan. Nor should those people (or the people who actual own the tickets) have to sell them so someone who's louder can take their place.

Would it be nice if there was more buzz in Rogers Arena? Sure. Would it be nice if we managed that without preventing others from enjoying the experience by blocking their view or being rude and obnoxious? Absolutely. Should people who are more reserved but still fans give up tickets, or should corporations/businesses who buy tickets to give to customers/employees step aside for people that do a better job of cheering? No, and it's unrealistic to think that'd even be possible in a market with higher demand than supply.


It's not necessarily that you read it incorrectly but that I most likely did not make my thoughts on the subject clear.

IMHO, the root problem is the same from one side of the spectrum to the other, from the quiet, barely present to the drunk and obnoxious. It is a greater statement of our society that we have become so entitled so that we believe all of our actions when in public are excusable because they suit our wants rather than realizing we are in a civil grouping.

In essence, we're selfish. Aside from the arena, it manifests itself in the way people approach traffic, their swearing in public, talking on the phone on the bus, not stepping aside for the elderly, you name it. We have become an incredibly inconsiderate population. Our own desires trump all. Having spent money is not a justification for any lack of attempt to acknowledge your effect on others.

In the arena, and I know this because I am at every game, this allows people to excuse their drinking, boorish behaviour, their complaints because others are chanting, their stoicism, their disrupting the view of others, and their decision to leave before the game is over. Regardless of one's personal or professional situation this has an effect on others. If you do legitimately need to leave early, as some do, then fine but to absolve yourself of being a less than ideal fan because you want to beat traffic is self delusion.

Far from being a statement regarding economic classism, as the other poster suggested, because I believe that may only manifest itself in different ways, this is a question of personal culpability. Do people ask themselves, "Am I being the best representative of a Canucks fan I can be?" We, as fans, are a collective and we should be working together to both help the team win and contribute to making certain our fellow fans have a great experience too.

So, "What is the solution you propose?" is a natural question. I believe it starts and ends, in this specific case, with the organization.

The Canucks truly missed an opportunity after the riot to reconnect with their fans regarding what would make us "the best fans in the world" as they often claim us to be which we most clearly are not. Does the org make clear statements about what is and is not expected inside of the arena? Do they publicly request that attendees represent their team and city in a certain fashion? Only minorly, in my opinion, and they do a piss poor job of it.

What is the ideal Canuck fan? I'm sure as a collective we could figure it out.
My opinion is:
- show up early
- leave after the game is over
- sing the anthem and take your hat off as requested
- do your best to be in your seat for the start of the period
- be vocally and visually supportive of the team
- maintain sobriety
- do not let tickets go unused
- be respectful of other fans
- be respectful of staff and the arena rules

It's not rocket science.

Any game attendee should ask themselves if they are not prepared to do all of these things if the tickets aren't better served being used someone who will. The organization should be doing this regularly, which they do not.

Simply using the fall back that the paying customer is always right is blatantly incorrect. Especially so, as you pointed out, when demand is so darned high.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:15 PM

Southsiders ejected from Canucks game; Are you kidding me?

I'm sure that by now, most of you have heard about the Southsiders encounter with Rogers Arena security last night, during the Vancouver Canucks 2-1 win over the Minnesota Wild.
It's been a running story/joke in Van city that Rogers Arena is more crypt than rink, that the fans generally seem uninterested in the game around them, and that you can usually hear a pin drop in the place.
That reputation can only be furthered after the Southsiders were kicked out of the sporting venue for - Gasp!- cheering! I spoke to a Southsider today that's actually a good friend of mine. While his opinion is obviously going to be a bit biased, I trust his word and his relation of the events.
Essentially, the Southsiders were cheering like they were at a Whitecaps match; standing up, singing songs with 'Vancouver Canucks' inserted in them, and waving their scarves. My friend told me there were no profanities being thrown about in their cheers, either. Anyways, they were then told by security that they couldn't stand because it was a 'liability' issue. One southsider related that security told them they could only stand up when a goal was scored. (WHAT!?!) After Southsiders raised an eyebrow and essentially collectively said, 'are you kidding me?', they were promptly ejected.
This bothers me for a few reasons. Firstly, It's a god damn sporting event, it's not church. You're supposed to be loud, you're supposed to have fun and cheer, you're supposed to create an atmosphere that provides the home team with a slight advantage.
Secondly, to the best of my knowledge, the Southsiders weren't doing anything ridiculous, they were simply cheering like passionate fans. Could you imagine getting tossed out of BC Place for standing? For singing songs? Of course not, because that's a mind numbingly stupid notion. Whitecaps matches and BC Lions games are almost always loud, exciting affairs, with fans really getting involved in the action. Why can't that translate over to Rogers Arena, to the storied past time that is supposed to be 'Canada's game?' This isn't golf for christs sake.
Lastly, once again, to the best of my knowledge, the Southsiders were up in the nosebleed seats and when they stood, the only vision that was being obstructed was that of Southsiders that were sitting down, and they weren't complaining to security. So, who were the 'siders hurting? They paid for their seats, and as long as they aren't acting like idiots, they should be able to enjoy themselves. I mean, this is an organization that prides itself on being some of the best fans in the world; are we really going to hit them on the nose and say no to that level of commitment? I mean, Canucks management should be working on replicating a hockey version of the Southsiders, not treating passionate fans like intruders.
It also begs a slew of questions to be asked. What is wrong with standing? Is this some sort of ridiculous joke? Are the security guards simply power tripping, thinking that they're jobs are far more important than they actually are? Are they merely enforcing some set of rules passed down from Canucks management? Is this just a gigantic overreaction to the riot?
In any case, I think we can all just finally nod in agreement that Vancouver truly deserves the moniker of 'No Fun City?'
I'll tell you, for the amount of money that Canucks management charges for every home game, fans should really be cut some slack. Considering that the team has unbelievable fan support (what's the sellout streak at? 400 games?), anybody should be able to stand up, cheer loudly, and get involved in the game.
Finally, I understand that there are two sides to every issue. I understand that some members of the Southsiders were probably being rowdy, but give me a freaking break. They were essentially quarantined into their own zone, trying to liven up a dead crowd. They should be given accolades, not kicked out to the curb so that Rogers Arena can maintain their ridiculous crowd 'rules.'

I guess the final point I'd like to make is that, from a guy that considers himself a huge soccer and hockey fan, that I've been to games for both Vancouver franchises. I've seen the Canucks play, and I've seen the Whitecaps play, and brother, there comparison between crowds at both events isn't even fair. Whitecaps fans blow Canucks fans out of the water when it comes to cheering for the home boys. So perhaps being thrown out was a blessing in disguise; Whitecaps fans can save all their energy for March, when the season gets going. Canucks fans can continue looking at their smart phones and half-assedly (did I just make a new word?) cheering when they feel like it.

I know which crowd I'd rather be a part of.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:30 PM

@theminister: I apologize for making you spend the time to write that all out! But yes, we agree on many things, and excuses for why people are the way they are won't cut it when they're actually a part of a problem, but it's fair enough to say the people who complain the loudest and think they've been wrongly mistreated don't always have a case from the other end of the spectrum from a quiet fan.

I like to use the walking-in-the-mall-at-Christmas example of how people have lost respect for one another and only think of themselves. People walk slowly and 4 or 5 people abreast in the middle of a massive crowd where others are trying to move the opposite direction, or even the same direction but at a more normal walking speed. We're all familiar with that from walking the concourse at Rogers Arena before, during and after the games.

@The Bookie: What do you want to bet some idiot has actually fallen and hurt himself while drunk (or maybe not even while drunk) because he was standing up and jumping around and sued. If not the Canucks, then for some other sports franchise, and with the steep stairs and that in some venues (like Rogers Arena) it certainly makes sense they'd think of that.

Does sitting down really limit their ability to enjoy a game? Do they have to give security such a hard time after they were asked to do something and complain when security comes back for them not playing along? If they were being rowdy, or blocking he view of some other fans as was mentioned earlier, then they were in the wrong.

People can have fun and create a buzz in the arena (I'll use that as a more positive substitute of the word 'noise') without going over the top, and it sounds like they went over the top.

I've never been to a game where I've seen someone who didn't deserve it being kicked out (and that has been only once in the numerous times I've gone there). I cheer 'Luuuuuuu' and do the DLR 'Whooo!' after goals, do the wave, have fun with some opposing teams fans (in a respectful way), sing out loud to the anthem, drink 2-4 beer each game and stand up and cheer when I think I should yet I've never heard someone complain about me or had security ask me to tone it down.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:45 PM

I know what a joke!!! One time I even got kicked out for being to quite!!! yup TO QUIET!!!! christ who do they think they are?? I made many consession stops that night and was so quite I was sleeping!!! I must have gave them ATLEAST $100 in beer sales by my self then after that they had the nerve to kick me out for being to quite. Since when did sleeping in your chair disturbe anyone?

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:02 PM

I go to the games to watch hockey not to hear some idiots yelling, swearing or singing. I will jump up if we score and am on my phone at time due to work which some of us have to deal with. I leave early sometime cause I have to get up at 5am the next day regardless of how entertaining the game is and want to beat the rush. I am the lower bowel stereotype many of you talk about on the outside but I am an avid hockey fan and played at a pretty high level for many years.


Those must be obstructed view seats.

Seriously though, those who are criticizing you for being more concerned about the life and death of your patients that a regular season hockey game need their heads examined. Perhaps you can hook them up with a psychiatrist?

Edited by nuckin_futz, 13 February 2013 - 09:02 PM.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 10:43 PM

Its not just security at Rogers power tripping at Canucks games, they do the same thing at concerts.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 10:59 PM

thanks to this thread, the canucks just lost a customer @ rogers arena. tv is where its at i guess.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 11:27 PM

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 12:38 AM

i dont think anyone has a problem with the singing or cheering chanting whatever you want to call it. but i know if my season tickets were behind them ( the southsiders were rows 13-15 in the bud zone so it is possible) i would be pretty annoyed. I certainly dont want to stand the whole game and if i take my dad who is in his late 70's he cant stand that long.

People pay a lot of money to see the canucks, not the back of some guys head or his scarf. Need to realize that just because you want to stand the whole game not everywhere else does or should have too as well. they are called "seats" for a reason.

But we do need to do something to get some atmosphere in the building and if that is by adding a standing/cheering section then great - but it needs to be designated like the whitecaps.


The entire south end at BC Place is a standing section that permits chanting and singing. However, even with that and all of the warnings, there is continually single ticket holders coming in and telling season ticket holders to sit down and shut up.

To the people that had complaints about being "behind" them, they offered to trade seats so they can sit in front of them. The Southsiders were accommodating, but the security didn't care and wanted nothing to do with them.

Your point is very rational if there were people behind them - however, as we can see in this picture, there was no one behind them in this situation:

https://twitter.com/...8770817/photo/1


"Our Team, Our Way" right above. I guess "our" really means management and not the fans.

Just for reference, here's what maximum crowd noise at Rogers Arena sounds like. (Skip through it)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmS-pztANow

There's no soccer style singing. No standing holding scarves. Nobody cares if the person sitting next to them is on the phone. Or if some people aren't cheering hard enough. Just a building full of fans enjoying the game they love.

If you want to be a cheerleader, be a cheerleader. Good for you. But it's hockey. This is Canada. I think we know how to cheer at a hockey game, thank you very much.


First of all, you pick out a one game elimination gold medal game and comparing it to a mid-week game against Minnesota. Sure, Rogers is capable of making noise, but that doesn't mean it's like that every game, not even close. Also, notice all of the Canadian colours in the crowd? Is it like that during regular Canucks games?

If the crowd was on a consistent basis like you've shown, this debate wouldn't even happen. You've just proven that there can be a good hockey crowd, so where is it? Is it really because the crowd is so intently watching a Canucks vs Minnesota game on a Tuesday?

As loud as the gold medal game was it was even louder after the 'dragon slayer' goal.

Prior to that, for the whole 3rd period and OT, you could hear a pin drop for most of the time and it wasn't because Canuck fans don't know how to cheer. It was because everyone was fully focused on the game itself.


As I've mentioned above, it's easy to pick out big moments in big games. Canuck fans know how to cheer these moments, but how about the times when the team is down or if the team wants to come out with a strong start? Where is the cheering during that time? The team isn't going to build any energy from intense watching.

I understand there are moments where you're just on the edge of your seat and you are focused, but as my example above, is this really the case during that Minnesota game? People can supposedly multi-task watching a game and texting on their phones, but it is not possible to chant/cheer and watch the game as well?

With all of this said, people can enjoy the game however they please and I'm not going to tell someone to put away their phones if that is how they are best enjoying the game. If the Canucks would like their building to be a library, then that's fine, I will spend my money next door with the Whitecaps where they encourage atmosphere. The reason why I go to a live game is for the experience and I cannot say there is a whole lot to experience at a Canucks game for the prices they're expecting us to pay. At a Whitecaps game, I feel more like I am part of the team's successes rather than just an open wallet. I'll enjoy a Canucks game at home if I want a quiet place to watch or at a pub if I'm looking for a crowd to cheer goals with.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 01:07 AM

If the crowd was on a consistent basis like you've shown, this debate wouldn't even happen. You've just proven that there can be a good hockey crowd, so where is it? Is it really because the crowd is so intently watching a Canucks vs Minnesota game on a Tuesday?


I have no idea what you're trying to say.

My point was, trying to tell Canadians how to watch a hockey game is like trying tell an American how to eat a hot dog.

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I'm guessing the people behind Shaq had their view obstructed. :lol:
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