Should The Canucks Have Gone After Matt Carle Instead of Garrison?

[Ray_Cathode]

I went to the game last night and paid close attention to Jason and honestly he looks so clueless out there. He gets scared when he has the puck and just tries to tie it up in the corner. I consider him a huge dissapointment this year but at the same time I said from the beinning that we better not pay all that money for him, then we did...

2 points in 12 games... yuk.. At least hes a +7

[Noheart]

I still can't figure out why everyone thinks his season was so great last year. He scored less than 0.5 points a game. There are lots do D that average better than that.

[thad]

We have the best goals against in the conference and tied for the best in the NHL....

Oh I'm sorry is there something wrong with our defense?

[pianoman13]

interesting stat that probably no one knows. Garrison has played against the highest quality of competition out of any defensemen on our team. I think its measured in the corsi or some weird advanced stat thing. But yeah, I haven`t seen him make many defensive mistakes, which is pretty good for someone playing against the best opposition players.

[MashedBananas]

OP logic: it only takes 12 games to decide if a player is a bust or not. It makes it even more accurate when those 12 games are with a brand new team.

[DownUndaCanuck]

Garrison is a +7.

Hamhuis is a -1.

On the 3rd best defensive team in the league, and a +10 overall team, this says a lot. Hamhuis is quietly having a bad season, Garrison is quietly having a good season.

[Kryten]

dp

[Kryten]

How does everyone still fall for Pasific's troll attempts? Look at his post history, he makes King of the ES look like MAKAVELI.

[Avicii]

+7 is such a misleading stat

How about a stat of showing how many GA he's on the ice for during the PK?

I don't hate him or anything, i just know he's pretty much on the ice like 80% the time we're scored on the PP.

[BuretoMogilny]

I know it's been said before, but it's worth saying again. Anyone who was expecting big offensive numbers out of Garrison this year was fooling themselves. He scored 16 goals last year based on an unsustainable hot streak - he had 11 goals in the first 37 games, and then only 5 in the last 45, when his shooting percentage inevitably regressed to the mean. He was simply never going to score at a 16 goal pace this year.

Also, if people were expecting a slick passing point man who would rack up assists, they weren't paying attention. He only had 17 last year, despite getting a ton of PP time.

Having said all that, it was still a very good signing, and to call him a bust is completely ridiculous. Garrison is an excellent shut down defenseman - one of the best in the league by some measures. He's already fulfilling that role here. He has the second highest Corsi of D-men on our team. He's slightly behind Ballard, but Garrison has faced much more difficult competition. In other words, he's arguably been our best defenseman so far.

Anyone expecting an offensive dynamo was being foolish, but we should appreciate what we've got - a top notch shut down d-man who can chip in on offense, at a very reasonable price.

[Zoolander]

He's a +7 so he's alright in my book

[Bananas]

Before you can label someone a bust, you need to list what your expectations were.

[Remy]

"Matt Carle.

His friends call him hot."

-Sportscentre

[TimberWolf]

A D-man worth the cap hit. That is what I expect.

[Dion Phaneuf]

He's been solid other than his 2 points in 12 games.

I'm still not a fan of the contract though (term) however with he has a ways to go before being labeled a bust.

[5minutesinthebox]

I know it's been said before, but it's worth saying again. Anyone who was expecting big offensive numbers out of Garrison this year was fooling themselves. He scored 16 goals last year based on an unsustainable hot streak - he had 11 goals in the first 37 games, and then only 5 in the last 45, when his shooting percentage inevitably regressed to the mean. He was simply never going to score at a 16 goal pace this year.

Also, if people were expecting a slick passing point man who would rack up assists, they weren't paying attention. He only had 17 last year, despite getting a ton of PP time.

Having said all that, it was still a very good signing, and to call him a bust is completely ridiculous. Garrison is an excellent shut down defenseman - one of the best in the league by some measures. He's already fulfilling that role here. He has the second highest Corsi of D-men on our team. He's slightly behind Ballard, but Garrison has faced much more difficult competition. In other words, he's arguably been our best defenseman so far.

Anyone expecting an offensive dynamo was being foolish, but we should appreciate what we've got - a top notch shut down d-man who can chip in on offense, at a very reasonable price.

[Alexander 7he Great]

[nd84]

I'm not impressed with Garrison yet but it's still early. I just hope he wasn't having a lucky season in Florida last year.

[Brockbuster]

I'm disappointed. There I said it. He's not even on the first pp unit anymore. I expected more for that contract. it's still early but you have to remember he only scored 3 goals from January on last year in Fla.

[needtogetswole]

hasn't our defence only conceded like 6 goals in the last 6 games or something along the lines of that? - I'm sure were fine and Garrison is perfectly fine as well..