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#61 DIBdaQUIB

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 12:12 PM

8 Goals in 7 Games say hello.


Those who quote this appear to have selective amnesia when it comes to Thomas's role in that number of goals. Our offence lacked production but not because of chances. Thomas stood on his head for 7 games...Lu for only 4.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 12:54 PM

Those who quote this appear to have selective amnesia when it comes to Thomas's role in that number of goals. Our offence lacked production but not because of chances. Thomas stood on his head for 7 games...Lu for only 4.


That is an excuse at the NHL level playing in the biggest game of the season for the stanley cup? "oh we tried to score but their goalie was just too good" get out of here...at least Lu was great for 4 games, our offense was crap for the entire 7 games

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

That is an excuse at the NHL level playing in the biggest game of the season for the stanley cup? "oh we tried to score but their goalie was just too good" get out of here...at least Lu was great for 4 games, our offense was crap for the entire 7 games


Funny how when Lu plays "lights-out" he's the team's savour and teh reason we won but when Thomas does it, it's no excuse. It works both ways.

Thomas never had a weak game in that SCF and made timely, incredible saves in every game. Lu was able to match his performance in 4 games. Lu wasn't the only reason the team lost - injuries, Hamhuis out etc - but Thomas out-played him in 3 games and that was a factor.


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Posted 14 February 2013 - 01:38 PM

You're dumb.

You also don't base the rest of your life off a small sample size that's changing right in front of your nose. Schneider is right behind Luongo if you take out the first game. There is little difference between the two right now. There is more to life than stats and it still doesn't change the situation. Luongo has indicated it is time to move on.


you do realize that if you take away the first game Luongo's stats get even better too right, not just Schneider.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 01:39 PM

This is a nice problem to have, 2 clear number one goalies. At this point, why would we not keep Lu and make a run with what we have. Goaltending is the most critical position in the playoffs. We are the envy of the league right now. Lu is a proven playoff performer and his only problem was he couldn't score himself when our forwards ran dry. From now until trade deadline is for Schnieder to prove if HE is the real deal for our future, otherwise I say keep Lu and make a run for the prize.


I have to respectfully disagree here. I dont think we have 2 "clear" #1 goalies. Schneider has played well in most of the games he has played, but he also hasnt seen a whole ton of action. We cant say for sure that he is a clear #1, until he is forced to play that role.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 01:44 PM

The problem is, Luongo is always one of the top goalies in the league, we talk about it every season. He plays like a phenom for the entire regular season, stands on his head. But as soon as we get into the playoffs, its like he decides he's had enough. Maybe we play him too much during the reg season and he's just worn out. Schneider hasn't had a chance to prove that he can handle a whole season of games, so we dont know if he can handle it or not. But eventually we need to find a goalie who can carry us through the pace of the play-offs. Maybe with this being a really short season he Luongo can keep the stamina needed to bring it home. We will see.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 01:53 PM

im glad he wants to stay till the end of the season


Has he said this publicly? What did I miss?
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 01:53 PM

Double post, sorry

Edited by DisplacedBCfan, 14 February 2013 - 01:54 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 02:11 PM

Funny how when Lu plays "lights-out" he's the team's savour and teh reason we won but when Thomas does it, it's no excuse. It works both ways.

Thomas never had a weak game in that SCF and made timely, incredible saves in every game. Lu was able to match his performance in 4 games. Lu wasn't the only reason the team lost - injuries, Hamhuis out etc - but Thomas out-played him in 3 games and that was a factor.


Thomas did play lights out, but he didn't have too because we barely got 1 goal a game. Saying had Lu not had those bad games in Bos and lets in less than 3, we still don't win those game.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 02:21 PM

Luongo is probably the best goalie in the league right now behind Anderson and Rinne, maybe even Price. You don't trade away a top-5 goalie to sit with a guy who's around top-20 in stats in Schneider.

Right now Lu and Schneider have played the same number of games and it's quite obvious. Luongo > Schneider.


Yes, they have played the same number of games. What is that? 7 games each?

My ideal situation would be Luongo retires a Canuck, winning 8 consecutive Stanley Cups and Vezinas, and his number gets retired. But let's get real, Schneider is younger and cheaper. Our window is actually expanded just by the fact that we'd likely have more years of quality goaltending going with Schneider. And our issue with Luongo isn't how he plays in the middle of the season, but rather the playoffs. Who's to say that once we get to the playoffs, and AV designates Luongo starter again, the pressure gets to him and he starts breaking down.

I love to see Bobby Lu doing excellent, but don't get ahead of yourself (too late obviously). We likely won't know until R1G1 who is our starter going forward. Maybe not even then.

Luongo right now is outplaying Schneider. That's it. Luongo is not necessarily better than Schneider. You are not a psychic.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 02:29 PM

Happy to have him for this season.

He'll leave with a ring on his finger.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 02:32 PM

Scum bags pre-season: "TRADE LOU U CAN GET MUCH BETTER PLAYERS HE SUCKS TRADE HIM"

Scum bags right now: "YA LIKE, LOU IS MY FAV PLAYA"
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 02:33 PM

Luongo is probably the best goalie in the league right now behind Anderson and Rinne, maybe even Price. You don't trade away a top-5 goalie to sit with a guy who's around top-20 in stats in Schneider.

Right now Lu and Schneider have played the same number of games and it's quite obvious. Luongo > Schneider.


The team has played much better in front of Luongo than Schneider, and has faced substantially less shots (27) than Schneider (30). If you remove game 1 in which neither of them played well (and the team was atrocious in front of them)
Luongo - .944 sv %
Schnieder - .945 sv %

Schnieder has also faced substantially more shots short handed (7) while playing in 1 less game.

So no, so far (as great as Lu has been) it has not shown me than Luongo >Schnieder
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 03:05 PM

8 Goals in 7 Games say hello.

7 goals against in 2 gams vs LA says hello !!!
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 03:08 PM

Thomas did play lights out, but he didn't have too because we barely got 1 goal a game. Saying had Lu not had those bad games in Bos and lets in less than 3, we still don't win those game.


I believe your first sentence is somewhat contradictory. Thomas's play was a factor in our 1 goal per game production which was my point. WE lost in 7. If Thomas poops the bed in game 6 or 7, we win the cup. He didn't.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 05:33 PM

Got to like Luo's game and attitude.

Guy has a great attitude to go with a great life.

Sure is interesting times for this club.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 05:48 PM

The team has played much better in front of Luongo than Schneider, and has faced substantially less shots (27) than Schneider (30). If you remove game 1 in which neither of them played well (and the team was atrocious in front of them)
Luongo - .944 sv %
Schnieder - .945 sv %

Schnieder has also faced substantially more shots short handed (7) while playing in 1 less game.

So no, so far (as great as Lu has been) it has not shown me than Luongo >Schnieder


if you take away the first game Luongo's save % goes to .951

try again


and the team has played better in front of Schneider, he's had more than one game where we've given him 4 or more goals of offsensive support. Luongo has had to hold the other team to 2 goals or less in his wins.

They're both playing amazing but if you had to pick who is playing better the stats don't lie, Luongo is outplaying him. Not by much but he still is

Edited by Primus099, 14 February 2013 - 05:51 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:30 PM

Those who quote this appear to have selective amnesia when it comes to Thomas's role in that number of goals. Our offence lacked production but not because of chances. Thomas stood on his head for 7 games...Lu for only 4.


I'm assuming you have some case of amnesia too?

What happens when 5/6 regular defenseman are injured? Boston's d-corps was pretty much 100% healthy.

Hamhuis destroyed his groin, Bieksa injured in game 5 due to Perverey slash, Ehrhoff broke something due to McGinn, Edler had like 4 broken fingers, Salo was tired as hell and i think he was injured too, Ballard injured, Rome suspended.

Okay, go win the cup.

Edited by Django, 14 February 2013 - 06:31 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:38 PM

Luongo is probably the best goalie in the league right now behind Anderson and Rinne, maybe even Price. You don't trade away a top-5 goalie to sit with a guy who's around top-20 in stats in Schneider.

Right now Lu and Schneider have played the same number of games and it's quite obvious. Luongo > Schneider.


Schneider doesn't have a bad first game and they would be almost equal in stats. Same as if Luongo has a bad game, so no, it isn't "quite obvious"

Both have earned the right to be starting #1 Goaltenders, we should enjoy the ride while they are both still here.

Edited by zero-ONE-three, 14 February 2013 - 06:39 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:49 PM

Those who quote this appear to have selective amnesia when it comes to Thomas's role in that number of goals. Our offence lacked production but not because of chances. Thomas stood on his head for 7 games...Lu for only 4.


People also forget how Thomas was in Round 3 against the Lightning. Thomas let in 5 goals, for 4 of the games in R3, but the Bruins' offense came up big when it needed to be and compensated for all those goals let in. Lui never gets the benefit of the doubt. Even when he does let in goals, it seems like the team got deflated way too easily and basically let the Bruins' walk all over them. (We were severely injured as well). This wasn't the kind of play that was going to win a Cup, Kesler nearly single-handedly won R2, Lui almost stole us R4.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:50 PM

It really looks like almost everyone in this thread is b!@#$ing about having not one, but two goalies with save percentages around the .940 mark...
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:53 PM

After next game Lu plays he will be #1 in SV% as well.

He's only .6% behind Anderson and Andy is not going to keep pace.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 07:10 PM

8 Goals in 7 Games say hello.


What does this have to do with Luongo giving up 20 in just over 6 games?
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 07:11 PM

Funny how when Lu plays "lights-out" he's the team's savour and teh reason we won but when Thomas does it, it's no excuse. It works both ways.

Thomas never had a weak game in that SCF and made timely, incredible saves in every game. Lu was able to match his performance in 4 games. Lu wasn't the only reason the team lost - injuries, Hamhuis out etc - but Thomas out-played him in 3 games and that was a factor.


I dunno, burrows's goal in overtime made him look rather foolish for being a hundred feet out of his net. but nobody craps on him for letting in a bad goal?

Edited by derr12, 14 February 2013 - 07:12 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 07:16 PM

What does this have to do with Luongo giving up 20 in just over 6 games?


"Schneider is the better goalie, But the team is playing better in front of luongo right now. Its a confidence thing. "
And this year it's the opposite. How does everyone blame the awful, awful play of the team in front on the goalie(s) is beyond me.

Goaltending wasnt really an issue in that series, it just wasn't as good as bostons and our banged up team didnt have the juice to push past it.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 07:17 PM

Those who quote this appear to have selective amnesia when it comes to Thomas's role in that number of goals. Our offence lacked production but not because of chances. Thomas stood on his head for 7 games...Lu for only 4.


That's what I always say. Thank you.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 07:22 PM

if you take away the first game Luongo's save % goes to .951

try again


and the team has played better in front of Schneider, he's had more than one game where we've given him 4 or more goals of offsensive support. Luongo has had to hold the other team to 2 goals or less in his wins.

They're both playing amazing but if you had to pick who is playing better the stats don't lie, Luongo is outplaying him. Not by much but he still is


And Schneider outplayed Luongo last year, reg and playoffs, but the Luo diehards dont put much stock in that do they?
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 07:26 PM

After next game Lu plays he will be #1 in SV% as well.

He's only .6% behind Anderson and Andy is not going to keep pace.


For sure, especially with karlsson out.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 07:58 PM

Yeah we get it. You prefer Luongo over Schneider.
On topic, yes Luongo is doing very well so far, give Cory a mulligan on that first game and his stats are on par as well.

Give Luongo a mulligan on that same game and his numbers are even more sparkling.

Edit: Never mind. Another poster beat me to the punch.

Edited by Millerdraft, 14 February 2013 - 07:59 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 08:08 PM

You could almost swear there are fans of 2 different teams here

Give your heads a shake
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