UFCanuck Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Jim Vandermeer is slow and is behind Barker and Alberts who aren't even playing. soooooo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 How many fights were there in last years playoffs? Anyone have an answer? My guess it was less than half a dozen the entire playoffs. Players don't fight in the playoffs. Games are too important, and you only hurt your team by doing it. You need tough players that can play regular minutes effectively. Vandermeer is not one of those players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disisdayear Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Just as painfully un-insightful and riddled with grammatical errors as your lame attempt at a funny username, disisdayear . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Yes, watching Hordichuk get his face bounced off the ice by everyone he fights is a real deterent. At least Vandermeer can fight, but there are certainly better players that can fight out there. For the record we do obviously need more messages being sent via fists, and our 4th liners don't seem to want to do their jobs in that department so something should be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeMinisterBure Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 OP, in regards to Neil and Boyle, pretty sure you are talking about the incident that was actually Carkner jumping Neil. But yes, this is a response. This is why I laugh when people said Keith wouldn't fight, that shouldn't be OUR problem but his. Doesn't want to fight? Too bad, make him fight or beat the sh*t out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeDreamOfStanley Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 You have absolutely no idea how hockey works. You really think that a player has to literally be beside another at all times to provide protection for another..? So, if a line on which a player that just threw a nasty hit on a Sedin just iced the puck, AV can't throw out the fourth line to pay that player back for his action??? I'm totally mistaken on my entire knowledge of hockey in this case. Thank you for your informative post. Now please return to playing with your mobile and abacus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raffi Torres's Smirk Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 First of all, you're an idiot. Second of all, no it isn't. You know how sweating causes you to excrete water from what are known as "pores"? Well, water can also enter the body through those things as well. You should check out this activity known as education. It's pretty enlightening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disisdayear Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 And yet playing Volpatti as our "main" fighter is OK? He is even smaller (6'0 215). Makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 "Time to slot in Vandermeer RIGHT NOW!" But where? Why destroy the line-up when we have won 6 games in a row. If there's an injury on the blueline, I could see Barker or Alberts stepping in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMacNamedDre Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Playoff hockey last year was a full thug fest, like nothing i've ever seen before. Bring up Vandermeer and sign one more absolute thug. a monster, 6"4 min... ++ 230lbs+++ with a mean streak. Sedin-Sedin-Kassian Booth-Kesler-Burrows Higgins-Schroeder-Hansen Vandermeer-LaPierre-Volpatti Raymond / Weise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Volpatti's an inch shorter and 5 lbs. heavier, so size is a wash when comparing the two. If we were to insert an enforcer into the lineup, Volpatti or Weise would have to be a casualty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opmac Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Learn to read. I said that he would be gone 5 minutes a game. You know, the amount of penalty time you get for fighting. He's a plug. Anyone that thinks otherwise doesn't actually know much about him. If he was as good as people thought, he wouldn't have cleared waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeMinisterBure Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 You are a perfect argument for the case of having a hockey aptitude test prior to being allowed to post in the forums. To begin with the original post was ridiculous .. secondly you attack this guy about his knowledge... How often do the 4th liners on our team play against the top players that are bashing the sedins around? Never, because the other coach is playing them when the sedins are on the ice... this becomes even more difficult of a task for AV to accomplish when the Canucks are playing on the road. There is a lot more to the game than throwing goons on the ice to rough up the other 4th lines, and realistically for this stupid theory to work, you need to have the meanest, toughest guy on both teams, on your team. Otherwise the other teams tough guys come right back at ya and the Canucks are suddenly taken away from their superior skill game that wins them games. Sweet plans bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookie Wilson Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Read my post again, genius. You really think there are never any times when there would be an overlap between the Canucks putting out their fourth line and the opposing team's first (or any other) line or any one of their defensive pairings? If you really believe that, don't even mention the words hockey IQ to me, you numbskull. How about when the first line of an opposing team ices the puck and is thus forced to take a faceoff in their defensive zone and can't make a line change. You really think they'll just effortlessly be able to win the draw against Lapierre, clear the puck out of their zone, AND make a line change before a guy like Vandermeer could grab a guy like Keith and start pounding his face into the ice?? That could and would easily happen if Gillis had any wits about him and the courage to make the right moves to protect his star players. But the guy is a coward. No wonder he was a players agent for such a long time, the sleazeball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Misread, but nice of you to take a shot at my reading comprehension and be so condescending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KING ALBERTS Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Canucks not only make the playoffs they have won the President's trophy the past 2 seasons. They excel in the regular season but the regular season is a different game, they are also helped by being in the NW division. Playoff hockey requires toughness to be successful at. Even the Canucks organisation agrees with me, hence the Kassian for Hodgson trade and bringing in Volpatti, Weiss and Garrison who is bigger than most other Canuck Dmen. The team is not complete yet, they need more toughness in their top 9 forwards and a mean, SOB, crease clearing Dman. Look who won the Cup the past 3 years, Chicago, Boston and LA. Post 2005 NHL is no more, The way the game is being played you need a tougher, bigger team. Just look at the Canucks' drafting change. They realize this and have gone from drafting smaller skilled players to bigger grittier ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Ouch...now run along and get back on your little yellow bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander.Edler Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 6 game win streak means you shouldn't tamper with the lines. I would have been happy seeing Kesler slot in when we finally lost, but since Malhotra is out he can slot in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I addressed Kassian in my post. Also, how did that work out with him in the lineup when Daniel was concussed by Duncan Keith, or the other night when nearly every Wild player was having their way with each Sedin? Kassian was present on both those nights. And those are just two of the most prominent of recent memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeMinisterBure Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 I can't believe there's so much push-back from so-called "fans" of the Canucks toward the idea of finally bringing in a guy that can protect their favourite players from taking the unnecessary (and, more importantly, otherwise unpunished) abuse that they have been subjected to for years now. What a bunch of sleazeballs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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