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Would Gillis still trade Luongo if he wins the Vezina this year?

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#1 ChewbaccaKaboom

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:30 PM

It seems like a ridiculous notion but not impossible. What do you think?
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:32 PM

I think no matter what Gillis does he will be disliked by half the people.

TO answer your question, Yes he would, Luongos value would only be higher.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:33 PM

One could argue that it would be the best time to trade Luongo if such a thing were to happen.

His value would be at an all time high.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:33 PM

will either goalie even be eligible if they split the season and only play 20-24 games?

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:34 PM

Tough to say. On one hand, trading away a Vezina winner isn't unheard of - Roy, Hextall, Hasek - all unreal goalies were traded. But on the other hand, Luongo IS 33 years old, while Schneider is what, 26? 27? We could have a Vezina winner for the remainder of his contract, or a possible Vezina winner for approximately 14. Tough call.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:34 PM

We aren't sure if he'll trade him at all. I don't think the Vez would change his mind either way.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:38 PM

Probably, we gotta look at Schneider too as his agent is concerned about playing time.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:39 PM

will either goalie even be eligible if they split the season and only play 20-24 games?


+1 this
I think to be given consideration a goalie would have to play at least 35-40 games in this short season...

zdoes anyone know the fewest played by a vezina winner in an 82 game season?

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:39 PM

I think how Lou responds in the playoffs will be a better indicator. He needs to show excellence AND consistancy in order to put the crititism to bed and stay a Canuck.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:42 PM

The only way Lou will touch the Vezina is if he rips it out of Schneiderman's hands! :P

Yes I think MG will. Imagine what we could potentially get as a return :frantic:

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:50 PM

For Luongo to win the Vezina, I think he would have to play a majority of the games, say, at least 30. Correct me if I'm wrong.

If that is the case though, it would be ridiculous to trade the best goalie in the NHL in favour of someone who still wouldn't have played a full season.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:54 PM

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:58 PM

Lu or Schnieds would have to post godly stats to win with their split season. The gap between them and the next goalie would have to be pretty significant, which doesn't seem likely as these two are gonna be neck n neck, let alone the rest of the league.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:59 PM

It's already a dilemma and I'm pretty sure that Gillis already wonders what he can do since he's got 2 #1 guys (hence Vigneault's coin :P)

The thing is, I really don't think it's smart to run with only one of these fine goalies at this point. Lu's got better stats than Cory, but Cory's (perceived) potential should be very high as well. Having this tandem is about as safe as you can get, since if either falters they still have the other guy at their disposal to step in and possibly steal a win. However, if Schneider's not successful with Lu gone who will they turn to? Conversely though, if Lu falters in the playoffs again with Cory gone who will they turn to? Either way, Eddie's lacking in experience to give the team confidence in his abilities to step in in a pinch.

In short, having both Bobby Lu and Cory as competent #1's is a great problem to have! Thank goodness deciding which one to deal is not our decision to make (but just for discussion's sake I would run with Lu and trade Cory for a 1B guy who's older and below him, yet still capable of spot starts, like a Martin Biron, or what about J.S. Giguere? Either way on top of the former starter in net they would also get other assets in return).

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:01 PM

Shudda up!!!! Enough about this!!!
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:02 PM

I like a two goalie system, we have two presidents trophies with these guys. If one guy goes down the other guy can fill in with no drop in play. It's just a matter of being able to fit both guys under the cap and them being okay with it. But I think we have similar cap space in tied up in bad contracts like Booth and Ballard (8.45M).

I just keep asking myself, would Boston have won the Stanley Cup with Rask if they had traded away Thomas when Rask took over as the number 1 goalie?

Guys like Hasek and Thomas were very good goalies as older players... I'd hate to lose Lu for a 3rd line centre or a dud prospect.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:09 PM

For Luongo to win the Vezina, I think he would have to play a majority of the games, say, at least 30. Correct me if I'm wrong.

If that is the case though, it would be ridiculous to trade the best goalie in the NHL in favour of someone who still wouldn't have played a full season.


Good point and this probably wouldn't be considered playing a full season even if a goalie played nearly all 48 games, so Cory won't really get the chace to prove he can be a number 1 until next season anyhow. And until he does that I think it's a mistake to trade Lu.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

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But seriously, it's a pretty speculative question and I'm sure this would be fine for the Luongo Trade Discussion thread.

The answer to any question is the same, if Gillis gets a deal he feels improves this team and is worth it for who he gives up he'll pull the trigger.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:21 PM

Why not?

Even Mike Vernon was traded right after he won the Stanley Cup AND the Conn Smythe.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:32 PM

To all you idiots talking about "trading a goalie when his value is highest" - shutup.

Look back at the last odd 10 Cup winners. One thing they had in common was fantastic goaltending. Now we're getting that level of goaltending, and you want to trade away our goalie because he's on top of his game? Here's an idea, instead of trading him away, lets use that "high value" to our own advantage and win a Cup with it.

Mark my words, if MG trades away Luongo now when he's finally hitting his prime this team will not win a Cup for a very long time. Schneider is still many years off Luongo's elite level right now, and if you think that kid is going to bring this team a Cup after playing around 60 career NHL games you're crazy. He'll enter his prime too, but it's still ways off. Luongo's is now.

Simply, you don't trade an all-time NHL-top-10 goalie when he's in his prime. It would be like the Canucks trading Henrik Sedin last season instead of Hodgson, or the Penguins trading Malkin instead of Staal. You keep your better players, trade your worse ones.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:37 PM

lets not get ahead of ourselves <_<

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:42 PM

He would be crazy to trade Luongo, Vezina trophy or not!

Why bother getting rid of a sure thing for a maybe-potential?

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:49 PM

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