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#1 Xbox

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:08 AM

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A few days have passed since the Ottawa Senators lost defenseman Erik Karlsson for the season due to surgery on his Achilles tendon, which was cut by the skate blade of Pittsburgh's Matt Cooke.
But Senators owner Eugene Melnyk isn't any happier about losing the defending Norris Trophy winner, especially since it involved a player with a history of questionable play.

"To have him taken out by a goon is unconscionable," Melnyk told TSN on Friday. "Whether it was accidental, or whether it was reckless, or whether it was intentional, to me it doesn't matter.


To have (Karlsson) taken out by a goon is unconscionable. Whether it was accidental, or whether it was reckless, or whether it was intentional, to me it doesn't matter. It's something that never should have happened. (Cooke) should never be playing in this league. It's a league for elite players.
-- Senators owner Eugene Melnyk


"It's something that never should have happened. This player should never be playing in this league. It's a league for elite players."

Cooke has been suspended five times in his career but has not been disciplined since March 2011, when he was suspended 10 games, plus the first round of the playoffs, for a hit to the head of the New York Rangers'Ryan McDonagh.

Cooke since has said he has changed the way he plays the game, but Melnyk does not believe that.

"I don't buy any of that garbage," Melnyk told TSN. "Five times? No, we're No. 6? How about seven and eight? At what point do you say, 'You know what? Maybe he's not changed.' You do this enough times, don't try to convince me or anybody else. People are way too intelligent. The guy gets suspended five times. That's how many times he's been suspended, never mind how many times he's not been suspended.

"I'm just shocked that that organization employs that type of individual."

The Penguins told ESPN.com on Thursday that they would not defend Cooke if they thought his was a dirty play.

"I feel horrible for Erik Karlsson; I feel bad for Ottawa," Pittsburgh general manager Ray Shero said. "It's a bad feeling. But I can't rationalize where that was a dirty play or anything with intent. Our fan base knows how it feels to lose a star player. It's emotional. I know how it feels like. It's just very unfortunate. I would not be defending Matt Cooke if I thought it was a dirty hockey play."




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Posted ImageErik Karlsson's injury is horrible for the Senators and the game of hockey, but the league is right not to subject Matt Cooke to discipline, Pierre LeBrun writes.Blog


Melnyk also disagreed with the NHL's decision not to discipline Cooke.

"The league has its own way of working," Melnyk told TSN. "They have their job, we have our job. At the end of the day, they are responsible for this. This is a reflection on the NHL. But saying that, if they're right, they're right. We have a different view at this point.

"Over the coming weeks, we'll get to the bottom of it. ... You can't see it on camera, that's why you can't blame the league for this or anyone else. On camera you look at it, but when you look at it logically, you've got a blade that has to cut through socks, has to then cut through skin, fat, muscle, everything that protects the tendon, then cuts 70 percent of the tendon."

Senators GM Bryan Murray said Thursday that Karlsson is expected to have a full recovery after surgery repaired the "clean cut," but Karlsson's season is done.

Murray added that Karlsson felt he "got directed and got cut with a skate that shouldn't be where it was."

"You will forget about guys like him (Cooke) in a year or two because they won't be playing in the league," Melnyk told TSN. "He's done it to us; he's done it to others. If he thinks it's cool to be the tough goon, then that's his business, but people aren't going to put up with him. We're certainly not going to put up with him. ... He's on a watch list now. Everybody should know it.

"You certainly don't belong in this league, and the faster you're gone, the better."


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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:11 AM

i love Cooke and i believe that was a accident on karlsson
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:16 AM

Hard to say it was intentional.

Looked like an accident to me, I could understand the frustration from the owners but accidents happen.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:20 AM

It was not an accident.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:26 AM

I can see how someone could argue either way. I don't think it was on purpose though.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:27 AM

It doesn't matter if it's an accident or not, and Cooke knows it. He's been a dirty player throughout his career so the label is going to stick forever. Melnyk should be pissed, he just lost the Norris winner. NHL fans should be pissed because one of the best NHL players is injured. If it was Crosby, the NHL would have an earthquake. Cooke should be concerned, whether he is a changed man or not, he could very well be out of the NHL next year. Nobody should feel sorry for him, though, simply cause he ended too many careers. Marc Savard most notably.

Edited by Rey, 16 February 2013 - 01:31 AM.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:28 AM

He is right to some extent. Cooke shouldn't be in the league...since he should have been thrown out a while ago for what he's done.

But can you really blame him for saying this? Ottawa's season is done now. Of course he's frustrated. And he's not going to get a huge fine for blaming Cooke as opposed to the refs for not blowing the play dead like they should have.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:32 AM

Just a butthurt owner. It wasn't intentional and the league made the right decision. Cooke doesn't really cheap shot anymore and even when he did, it was with dangerous hits, not subtle things like a skate cut.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:37 AM

Watching the game Cooke was crushed in the first by a pretty good hit , he got up and lost his sh... as he was skating by the Sens bench he was pointing at them and pretty much doin what Cooke does best. I really want to believe this is unintentional, but in my heart of hearts this was deliberate. The way he stepped down just seemed so placed...but we will never really know. I really hope Karlsson can bounce back like Selanne did after he severed his Achilles.

and yes Cooke ,Avery, Marchand, Tootoo , Bolland, Carcillo, Phanuef (lol seriously) scum like this does not deserve to be in the league.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:43 AM

I personally think Cooke should've been banned from the NHL since the Savard incident.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:51 AM

Watching the game Cooke was crushed in the first by a pretty good hit , he got up and lost his sh... as he was skating by the Sens bench he was pointing at them and pretty much doin what Cooke does best. I really want to believe this is unintentional, but in my heart of hearts this was deliberate. The way he stepped down just seemed so placed...but we will never really know. I really hope Karlsson can bounce back like Selanne did after he severed his Achilles.

and yes Cooke ,Avery, Marchand, Tootoo , Bolland, Carcillo, Phanuef (lol seriously) scum like this does not deserve to be in the league.


Phaneuf is no where near the level of being banned from the NHL.

I hate Cooke, Avery, and Carcillo.

Bolland and Marchand are fine. We cant just ban everyone who hates us. We wouldnt have much rivalries then.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:32 AM

I hate Cooke, I was so happy when we got rid of him, with him, accident or not, there is always going to be that doubt
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:39 AM

Even though he may not have targetted with severe intent to injure, he may have just lifted his leg and pressed it up against him in a casual mannor in which he may or not have cared if it cut him or not, even though he knew what he was doing. There is a microscope on head shots so he has to find another way to ruin peoples lives without it looking intentional. Hes a reckless POS and should have been tossed out years ago. Mario Lemieux continues to eat his words, are you full yet?

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:44 AM

He's a solid 30 point player in the NHL now, 19 goals last season, he deserves to be in this league.
Totally an accident from my view point, but really hope Karlsson is back as quick as possible and back to his regular form, would be super sad if hes never the same.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:50 AM

and yes Cooke ,Avery, Marchand, Tootoo , Bolland, Carcillo, Phanuef (lol seriously) scum like this does not deserve to be in the league.


You forgot Bertuzzi.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:54 AM

He's a solid 30 point player in the NHL now, 19 goals last season, he deserves to be in this league.
Totally an accident from my view point, but really hope Karlsson is back as quick as possible and back to his regular form, would be super sad if hes never the same.


Marc Savard had 706 points in 807 games, does he deserve to be playing in the league? It doesn't matter because he can't due to Matt Cooke. So what do points matter? They don't.



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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:56 AM

If it was Crosby, the NHL would have an earthquake.


When Crosby was out with his concussion, the league went hyper paranoid concerning headshots.

Remember Shanahan? He was chucking out suspensions and fines left and right, even in preseason.

There is some truth to this double standard. It's ok when the Pens are benefiting, but of course the NHL doesn't give crap about Ottawa, people will pay their money no matter what.

We all watched Matt Cooke when he was young here, and some of us still like him. However, the NHL made its bed after the hit on Savard. They only care if one of their chosen players is involved.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 03:00 AM

You forgot Bertuzzi.


I would argue that Bertuzzi was an isolated incident. That game got way out of hand, and Bert made a stupid mistake. He did not and does not make cheapshots part of his game. Not to mention he had quite a hefty suspension at the time. It cost the Canucks later on against Calgary.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 03:11 AM

I would argue that Bertuzzi was an isolated incident. That game got way out of hand, and Bert made a stupid mistake. He did not and does not make cheapshots part of his game. Not to mention he had quite a hefty suspension at the time. It cost the Canucks later on against Calgary.


Yeah because a criminal assault conviction resulting in a player's career being ended instantly is OK but agitators that just happen to play for the Bruins, Hawks and Leafs should be kicked out of the NHL just because. This board is a laugh riot sometimes.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 03:45 AM

It doesn't matter if it's an accident or not, and Cooke knows it. He's been a dirty player throughout his career so the label is going to stick forever. Melnyk should be pissed, he just lost the Norris winner. NHL fans should be pissed because one of the best NHL players is injured. If it was Crosby, the NHL would have an earthquake. Cooke should be concerned, whether he is a changed man or not, he could very well be out of the NHL next year. Nobody should feel sorry for him, though, simply cause he ended too many careers. Marc Savard most notably.


Yeah well maybe if it was anyone but Cooke people would dismiss this as accidental.

Im not a fan of his for sure, but seriously, who ever thinks "Oh look, theres a nice juicy accheles tendon" *stomp* completely out of the blue like that?
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:19 AM

Cooke proved last year that he can play a cleaner game and still contribute to the team. He cut down his PIM's and I believe he really made an effort to change. I don't believe that this is intentional. Try watching it in normal motion. It's easy to watch everything in slow mo and say that he did it on purpose. Aaron Ward has already shown a few examples where this play is done all the time in hockey because of the obstruction rules. As much as I don't like Cooke, you have to call a spade a spade.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:55 AM

Yeah because a criminal assault conviction resulting in a player's career being ended instantly is OK but agitators that just happen to play for the Bruins, Hawks and Leafs should be kicked out of the NHL just because. This board is a laugh riot sometimes.


He wasn't convicted - he pled guilty and got a conditional discharge. No criminal record, and not considered a conviction.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 09:22 AM

Silver lining for Ottawa fans IF Karlsson recovers 100% from this injury. A top 10 or even possibly top 5 pick in a strong 2013 draft class would give them a chance to target a player that would help in e not too distant future. It's not like they were going anywhere this year with Spezza out anyways...
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 09:35 AM

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:29 AM

It was not an accident.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:33 AM

Butthurt owner. Should be careful not to run a foul of a lawyer with his statements. I'm also waiting for the NHL to warn the owner to shut the hell up as his comments are disrespectful of the league's officiating and supplementary discipline regime.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:35 AM

It was not an accident.


It was an accident.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 11:31 AM

If Cooke was to be kicked out of the league, the chance to make that decision was years ago and has now gone.

He's here to stay now since he turned over a new leaf, and Ottawa's just butthurt over Karlsson getting injured on a freak accident.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 11:38 AM

I personally think Cooke should've been banned from the NHL since the Savard incident.


funny because that was a legal hit at the time

and he was not even suspended for the hit
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 12:22 PM

It was an accident.


It was not an accident.

Edited by WHL rocks, 16 February 2013 - 04:19 PM.

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