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#1 puckinaround

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:09 PM

Was wondering what people think about Burrows shootout move. Its almost the same every time he tries and he has a great record in the shootout. Granted he tried that crazy move recently that everyone was scratching their heads at, but is he now too predictable? He is leaving a pattern for goalies to study and defend against. This also opens the door to the discussion of teams figuring out how to shut down the Sedins Burrows line in the playoffs. Thats my case for keeping Kassian with the Sedins. Its new and unexpected. Cody Hodgson ripping a slap shot over Tim Thomas's shoulder is a perfect example of how affective the unexpected can be. Will never forget the reaction Thomas had after that goal. It was a big WTF was that moment for him.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:19 PM

I don't think its predictable, he just fumbled it a little bit. He tried shooting before the goalie fully committed, usually he waits until they're snow angled then lets it rip. I give him credit for switching it up. When playing with the Sedins, the goals he scores are one timers or tip-ins. Burrows is a lot better at screening the goalie, while Kassian is better at clearing the way for the twins and standing his ground. Burrows gets like 10 cross checks while in front of the goalie and looks like one of those flailing car dealership things( which is good for distraction). Kassian absorbs them, but isn't as mobile. Long story short, burrows is proven in the playoffs while playing with the twins.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:20 PM

He should add to his move, so instead of faking and then going to the backhand, he could fake, do a head fake and then shoot. Being predictable can be tricky for goalies. Just ask Toskala against Sundin.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:31 PM

I think he needs to go in with speed....he had slowed it down a bit (or, in some cases, a lot) and that didn't work. It's a nifty move if he comes in with speed...doesn't matter if they predict it, he still manages a snipe most of the time.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:35 PM

backhand forhand
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:39 PM

Well he has been hovering around the 50% mark for quite a while so I would say keep doing what your doing.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:43 PM

You can tell Burrows is a guy that prides himself on his shootout play, whenever he misses one (or a penalty shot, or a breakaway) he always looks really mad at himself.

I imagine he had some good move in mind for that spin-o-rama but hadn't actually practiced it, so it fell really flat. Shootouts are tough and they probably don't spend much time practicing them (ideally the shootout shouldn't happen much).

Most guys only have two or three moves that work for them that are their go-to moves. Burrows has his one, but he's honed it so well it works consistently. He's close to 50% on his career shootouts, after all.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:50 PM

hes not predictable , he just fumbled the puck the last few times hes tried it
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:36 PM

He's been doing it for awhile and he still manages to put it away a lot of the time. If that's his go to move and it is still effective then why stop?
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:39 PM

agreed it was just a bad attempt, but his leg kick backhand gets the goalies to open up for a shot, then when they bite the goalie can be flat footed and the back hand just has to be above the pad and it' a goal. I play goal myself and if i bite on the fake shot, it's hard to recover from.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:42 PM

Jussi Jokinen had a go-to move in his rookie year. I don't think he uses it anymore. Burr will stop using his backhand top shelf when it stops working.

He'll still use it on breakaways, though.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:55 PM

Ever heard the term "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? He works on an incredibly successful shootout rate considering it's the "same move" every time. Until goalies REALLY show they know the move top to bottom, I say keep it up.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:20 PM

And even if it is predictable the goalie almost has to commit to him doing it, so therefore leaving other areas open, so then Burrows would just have to change it up at the end.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 04:29 PM

needs to shoot a few times on the forehand in his go-to move. that way goalie wont know if he should commit to the forehand or follow for the back
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 06:10 PM

I can't believe they bite on the fake as much as they do
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:30 PM

I think he should have a move that looks just like it, like he should come in on the backhand (from the right side) and move to the left and shoot. Sort of like a reverse of the same move, I think he could pull it off. Tonight it was predictable and it affected him in the shoot out, he's been trying weird moves.. I would of liked to see Raymond in instead of Burrows, also Kassian as the 2nd shooter and Kes as the 3rd shooter. Oh well, on to the next game- hope the Chicago one fairs better! :P
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:56 PM

When a guy with three whole games of NHL experience has your move down so cold that it ends up in his glove then it has officially gotten old.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 11:09 PM

When a guy with three whole games of NHL experience has your move down so cold that it ends up in his glove then it has officially gotten old.


That wasn't his go-to move though, he didn't have the time or space to sell the forehand. He just went right across, easy to read.

I think Burrows' move is great and there's nothing wrong with it. Nothing wrong with expanding your repertoire though, I'd like to see more Canucks practice shootouts more.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 11:34 PM

It's a great move, but way too predictable now. Why not give Schroeder or Kassian a chance?
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 11:56 PM

Burrows only has his backhand deke - he has a pretty crummy shot compared to some of the other Canucks. We actually have a lot of weapons on this team that AV simply doesn't use.

Daniel Sedin has this team's best shot one-on-one without a doubt, he just rarely uses it in games because he's busy passing the puck around. I want to see him skate in, no deke and simply rip a shot high blocker. The number of goals he scored off the post and in last season was far more than clean shots in. He's a true sniper and very underated in this league because of his great passing.

Kassian has some of the smoothest hands on this team. He showed it off once with a great deke and he's been doing it all of the lockout long in the AHL. Give this guy a shot again and let him deke out goalies.

Raymond also has an incredibly accurate shot. He shouldn't try to deke because his arm-span isn't that wide and can't get the puck very far out from his body. Instead, come in with speed and simply shoot it.

Kesler has a whole arsenal of weapons in the shoot-out, he used to have a great wrist shot but the double-surgeries may have slown this down. Instead I want to see the leg-kick deke again. He used it so often in before 2009 I think and it embarassed goalies - similar to Crosby's go-to move. Now he's reverted to shooting low-blocker and it rarely works.

Chris Higgins is my choice for our next shootout though. He and even Lapierre have surprisingly quick hands and have some amazing dekes in their repetoire. We've seen what he can do on breakaways - one sweet move against Kippersoff last year that completely undressed the goalie. Also, Higgins has a shot very similar to Raymond's - it's accurate and hard. AV really needs to look to Higgins more often. He's a great deker and shooter as well which keeps goalies guessing.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:25 AM

Was wondering what people think about Burrows shootout move. Its almost the same every time he tries and he has a great record in the shootout. Granted he tried that crazy move recently that everyone was scratching their heads at, but is he now too predictable? He is leaving a pattern for goalies to study and defend against. This also opens the door to the discussion of teams figuring out how to shut down the Sedins Burrows line in the playoffs. Thats my case for keeping Kassian with the Sedins. Its new and unexpected. Cody Hodgson ripping a slap shot over Tim Thomas's shoulder is a perfect example of how affective the unexpected can be. Will never forget the reaction Thomas had after that goal. It was a big WTF was that moment for him.


Kassian being invisible today was definitely unexpected.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:25 AM

He went to his backhand move on that breakaway in OT, and even the rookie goalie read it like a book. He needs a new move goalies know all about his move now, just like Kesler's leg kick move a while back it worked well until goalies got used to it.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:28 AM

When a guy with three whole games of NHL experience has your move down so cold that it ends up in his glove then it has officially gotten old.


Allen is just a lucky bastard. Didn't you see his stick save in the Calgary game? The dude has a horseshoe stuck up his ass.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:29 AM

He went to his backhand move on that breakaway in OT, and even the rookie goalie read it like a book. He needs a new move goalies know all about his move now, just like Kesler's leg kick move a while back it worked well until goalies got used to it.


I'd say he should copy Raymond's spinorama move.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:40 AM

I don't think its predictable, he just fumbled it a little bit. He tried shooting before the goalie fully committed, usually he waits until they're snow angled then lets it rip. I give him credit for switching it up. When playing with the Sedins, the goals he scores are one timers or tip-ins. Burrows is a lot better at screening the goalie, while Kassian is better at clearing the way for the twins and standing his ground. Burrows gets like 10 cross checks while in front of the goalie and looks like one of those flailing car dealership things( which is good for distraction). Kassian absorbs them, but isn't as mobile. Long story short, burrows is proven in the playoffs while playing with the twins.


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:30 AM

Ive been wanting him to chang it up for a long time now. His move worked very well at first but now they are either reading him like a book or hes fanning on his backhand and not getting it up shelf like it needs to be. Why he doesn't either shoot right away or forehand backhand forehand again is beyond me.

Every goalie and coach knows what move is coming. Every vancouver fan knows whats coming.
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