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#1 Bur14Kes17

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:25 PM

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Can we possibly say that this year for the very first time, we have a line up that does not have any holes in it??? From top to bottom we have each and every role filled???

First Line:
Option A- Sedin Sedin Burrows
Option B- Sedin Sedin Kassian

We have one of the top 1st lines in the NHL of Sedin Sedin Burrows. In the past, we have complained about the sedins getting pushed around and beaten on and we've wanted a big tough guy that is able to play with them. Now we have Zack Kassian who in his short time with the Sedins demonstrated both his ability to score goals and step up and fight when he needs to. We are now able to rotate between these two line mates. Burrows is the better option for the Sedins when we need scoring at this point because Zack just hasn't learned how to do all of the little things that Burrows can. At this point, Zack seems to feed off of the chances that the Sedins create and hasn't figured out how to create things for them as well. This is something that he will eventually learn, but in the mean time, he is our second option for when the line needs toughness.

Second Line:
Option A- Booth Kesler Kassian/Burrows
Option B- Higgins Kesler Kassian/Burrows

The make up of the second line on the RW depends on whats going on with the first line as far as whether or not the other team is taking liberties with the Sedins. However, whether its Kassian or Burrows on the second line, both have shown their ability to great passers. Last year we were griping because after Kesler's 40 goal season, he seemed to think he was the next Stamkos and didn't need to pass anymore. This doesn't help anything when we already know that Booth isn't a great passer either. Last year this was Raymonds place (again with the passing problems), however, enter either Kassian or Burrows and we now have a play making winger who can both score, but more importantly has the ability to pass and make up for kesler's puck hogging. Booth and Higgins are a 1A 1B option in my opinion. Higgins has showed he can score when he's put in that roll, but Booth has a higher ceiling and practiced with Kesler through the summer so he should be our 1A option.

Third Line:
Raymond Schroeder Hansen

This has to be one of the fastest lines in the NHL. Since being placed together they have shown exceptional chemistry, defensive responsibility, and the ability to make the opposition chase them around in the offensive zone and wear them down. Schroeder has been a very pleasant surprise with his defensive awareness, face off prowess, and has shown himself to be a two was center. Both Raymond and Hansen are two of the safest guys to have in our own zone. The big question mark going in to the start of the season was, "what are we going to do for a second line?!", but with the resurgence of Raymond and the surprise that is Schroeder, these guys have stepped and produced like a second line.

Fourth Line:
Higgins Lappy Volpatti

Anytime you have Higgins and Lappy as 2/3 of your 4th line, things are going well. Both of these two are entirely capable of being 3rd liners and higgins of being a 2nd liner. Volpatti brings the punch to this line. Literally. The man is a human wrecking ball flying around the ice and Chuck Norris was a mentor to his right fist. Ask Brad Winchester. The trickle down effect of having Booth and Kesler back in the lineup is what turns this team from a playoff team, to a contender.

1st D Pairing:
Bieksa Hamhuis

Rocky start to the season, but with each passing game we are seeing them return to last years form and a legit shut down pairing that can contribute offensively. Bieksa brings the juice, Hammer brings the safety.

2nd D Pairing:
Garrison Edler

If there is a question mark on this team, it is this pairing. Funny how the pairing that has the MOST potential to be absolutly BEAST like, is the one question mark on the whole team. As the season moves on and with more games, im sure that these two will settle in with each other and play safer more fluid hockey and Garrison will begin to fill the net. Honestly though, if this is the biggest question mark on our team... why are we griping?

3rd Pairing:
Ballard Tanev

Cheers to Ballard and Tanev for forming the most reliable D pairing of the season and an even bigger cheers to Ballard for showing all the haters what he's capable of!! Ballard is probably not worth his 4 million dollar contract, but him and Tanev have been rock solid together and im willing to
overpay one defender, to have a pairing that is rock solid.

Goalies:
Bobby Lou of Schneiderman

Who cares whos in net. They will win the Jennings trophy again this year. Best tandem in the NHL.
IF by chance either one gets traded at the deadline, we will be getting one hell of a return.
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#2 SkeeterHansen

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:29 PM

You can never have "too much depth", but with Kesler and Booth coming back, dare I say thats what we've got?
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:37 PM

I'd like Kassian with the Sedins, but then again I'd like to see Kassian with Kesler.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:48 PM

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Lack of right handed D.

No PP specialist,despite what the fan boys thought Garrison was to bring to the table.

No face off specialist to fill Manny's departure.
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#5 TimberWolf

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:56 PM

I'd like Kassian with the Sedins, but then again I'd like to see Kassian with Kesler.


Kassian with the twins seems more playoff viable and should be used more often so they can get a rhythm going and Kes/Burr always play well together anyways.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 04:16 PM

Yea! We have our secondary scoring working which I think was lacking for the past seasons!
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 04:22 PM

Lack of right handed D.

No PP specialist,despite what the fan boys thought Garrison was to bring to the table.

No face off specialist to fill Manny's departure.


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 04:24 PM

PP sucks with all that talent still. PP was a problem last playoffs, and SCF.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 04:31 PM

That's what she said.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 04:34 PM

@ OP: I'd switch Hansen onto the 2nd and Booth on the 3rd.

Lack of right handed D.

No PP specialist,despite what the fan boys thought Garrison was to bring to the table.

No face off specialist to fill Manny's departure.


Not sure I agree with the first point; I get the feeling that D-pairing handedness is overrated. As long as they're comfortable with the side that they play on it should work, so I think the right-SIDE defenders are needed.

By PP specialists do you mean PP QB's/ puck-movers who can move it up ice? I think that someone like Hansen should get a try; he's pass-first but he's not afraid to crank shots on net, and his speed would allow him to be defensively responsible since he should be able to catch and check anybody who gets behind him. Ballard should also get an opportunity (where have we heard that before?); he moves the puck, plus he's showing that he can be defensively responsible this season with Tanev. Pairing Keith with Garrison should help, so Jason can crank his bomb on net.

I think the 3rd point is important as well, but less difficult to fill than the 2nd. I'd be fine if they went after someone like Zack Smith from Ottawa, since he's physical and can win draws.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 04:36 PM

The problem this year may be too many options. I don't even want to know how many different line combinations AV will try out. :lol:

I just hope our team stays relatively healthy.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 05:15 PM

I think we may need more depth at center. A third line center would be nice.

Not sure how Schroeder would hold up in the playoffs when it gets tougher.


Raymond Schroeder Hansen - Will get pushed around too easily.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 05:22 PM

^^^^^ Agreed on the third line and size. That being said, if they score and our power play makes the opposition pay during the playoffs, then the size issue won't matter....but it is an issue for sure. Kassian won't be double shifting during the playoffs.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 05:22 PM

I think we may need more depth at center. A third line center would be nice.

Not sure how Schroeder would hold up in the playoffs when it gets tougher.


Raymond Schroeder Hansen - Will get pushed around too easily.



i agree, another solid centre would not hurt, big bodies only from now or at least standing by for when the whistles get put away ie playoffs.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 05:45 PM

Face off specialist center and right handed D PP specialist are holes that need to be filled before the playoffs.

This has been covered extensively in the media.

The question being if Gillis is now too afraid or has changed his mind to trade Luo-who goes to fill those positions?
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 05:55 PM

Hole caused by Rome's departure.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 06:00 PM

I've been saying this for the last couple of seasons - then the playoffs come around and the Canucks get injured.

It's not the best team that wins the playoffs, it's the least injured team.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 06:02 PM

I'm more likely than not outnumbered in my opinion, but I'm not really confident in our D-core. Both Hamhuis and Edler looked terrible last year in the playoffs and I never really did think Bieksa was good at anything other than physicality. The only pair I'm truly confident in thus far is Tanev and Ballard. I hope they prove me wrong but I guess we'll find out.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 06:04 PM

When Booth comes back,
Schroeder demoted
Lapierre on 3rd line
Ebbett in... 4th line
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 06:05 PM

I'm more likely than not outnumbered in my opinion, but I'm not really confident in our D-core. Both Hamhuis and Edler looked terrible last year in the playoffs and I never really did think Bieksa was good at anything other than physicality. The only pair I'm truly confident in thus far is Tanev and Ballard. I hope they prove me wrong but I guess we'll find out.


Bieksa's had three 40+ point seasons, including last season when he had 46 points.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 06:23 PM

I agree that our D doesn't seem so solid...

Right now, they're not too bad, but they're not that great either. I feel like we have three okay pairings, but no one dominant top shutdown pairing. Maybe it's better this way, I don't think so, but who knows.

If we move Bieksa back with Hamhuis, that's one top pairing.

But then we'll be left with Edler and Garrison. I feel like these two are too offensive minded to be paired together, so a no-no.

Ballard and Tanev are pretty good for a bottom pairing.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 06:31 PM

Bieksa's had three 40+ point seasons, including last season when he had 46 points.


Can you honestly say Bieksa is a reliable offensive dman? It hurts to watch him throw those pathetic wristers on net and miss slapshots by a mile.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 06:31 PM

Bieksa's had three 40+ point seasons, including last season when he had 46 points.


Can you honestly say Bieksa is a reliable offensive dman? It hurts to watch him throw those pathetic wristers on net and miss slapshots by a mile.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 06:31 PM

Bieksa's had three 40+ point seasons, including last season when he had 46 points.


Can you honestly say Bieksa is a reliable offensive dman? It hurts to watch him throw those pathetic wristers on net and miss slapshots by a mile.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:02 PM

Our 2010-11 team was better, as Ehrhoff presented a significant threat from the blueline, Torres provided grade-a hitting, and Manny was our unsung mvp. That combo overall was better than Schroeds, Kassian and Garrison as they are now.

It's not a coincidence that Ehrhoff's departure went hand-in-hand with a dip in Sedin scoring. He often joined the rush and caused opponents fits. We have yet to replace his speed, making our powerplay a bit less dynamic.

Kassian is/will be better than Torres, certainly, in terms of overall ability. But what we won't get from Kassian at this point is Torres' ability to throw bone-crushing checks on opposing top players. That factor was very important for us during our run to the finals. Esp. against SJ, where he rendered Jumbo useless.

And Schroeder is ALL potential at this point. Frankly, i'll be shocked if AV uses him all that much during the playoffs. Taking important draws? Centering a checking line? Blocking shots? Throwing opponents off their game? Don't see it. That means Kesler will have to do it all again, and that means he'll be exhausted again. This team still misses healthy Manny very much.

When Booth comes back, we're gonna have to take a look at what we really have here.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:04 PM

When Booth comes back,
Schroeder demoted
Lapierre on 3rd line
Ebbett in... 4th line


Really?...I'd agree with a previous posters assessment that Ebbett and Lapierre could be upgraded.Preferably to another defensive specialist with good faceoff ability.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:09 PM

Where there is Weise, there is hole
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:46 PM

I'd like Kassian with the Sedins, but then again I'd like to see Kassian with Kesler.

I'd also like Kass with Hansen but then again he'd also be good with Maxim Lapierre.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:02 PM

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