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#61 Canuck Surfer

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:37 PM

Which four; Daniel, Henrik, Burrows and Hansen I presume?

I'd love to include Kesler in that and in reality he very much is; when healthy... I have my fingers crossed there.



Look; here is my real position in this thread, call it a response to the OP (would appreciate your thoughts on which 4 though TML);

I'm starting to think Kassian is lacking purpose because he's not playing with the Twins. Don't get me wrong, he does need to earn his shifts. But because the Twins are so good it's obvious where you should go and what you should do.

The point is the Twins play gives Kass something specific to do, and he goes out and does it. But Kass may not (lets call it is not) be mature enough to create the structure on his own for other players. He just has the soft hands to take advantage. People expect him to be a play maker (a huge expectation is he will be the passer for Booth/Kess), but he needs to play with guys who help control the puck and can feed off his big body. Playing with Higgins does bugger all cuz he's also a guy that digs out the puck and goes to the net.

Another key point; people are in love with Burrows with the Twins. But we LOST the last two games. St Louis and Dallas are bigger than all the NW division chumps we clocked in our 6 game streak. I think we can keep purpose in a guy like Kassian by playing him some shifts, every night, with the Twins. It also mucks up the rotations a guy like Hitch was throwing at us. Kass needs to play with guys who give him purpose.

Once he's flying, he'll still be getting it done, but demanding Schroeder, Raymond also fly from slot to boards, boards to corner, behind the net; rotate and catch people as they are cutting. And of course Burr, when he goes down to a 2knd or 3rd line these days (check last years run up to the play off's) does exactly that and gets other lines into the game.

We need to mix and match with Kass and Burr taking shifts with the Twins. It's how you control match ups and get everyone going!




Honestly, we have just four forwards, tops, that we can count on for game-to-game consistency.

Everyone else goes on hot and cold streaks.

Raymond might be hot now and Kassian might be cold, but that can change in a week.

But let's keep our fingers crossed on Booth coming back with a purpose and becoming another consistent forward. That would be sweet. I have my doubts though.


Edited by Canuck Surfer, 18 February 2013 - 04:01 PM.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:45 PM

I was against the CH trade from day one. I'll ask people; who would you rather have now, Kassian or Hodgson? (This trade will define MG's career.) To trade a number one center for a goofball winger is the height of dementia.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:50 PM

Not sure where Kassian IS gone. But wondering where Kassian HAS gone....
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:52 PM

I was against the CH trade from day one. I'll ask people; who would you rather have now, Kassian or Hodgson? (This trade will define MG's career.) To trade a number one center for a goofball winger is the height of dementia.


Its coming up on a year almost.Get over it or go join a cody hodgson forum, maybe his dad will make you moderator.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:52 PM

the only reason the management keeps playing this guy is because they don't want to admit they lost the trade


hodgson > kassian any day

hodgson makes other players around him better a solid play maker with a brain

angers me canucks traded away a future legend
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:00 PM

The fact he isn't with the Sedins anymore might have something to do with where the points have gone, just a theory. Seems like Burrows' production is through the roof lately though, must be a coincidence.

Seriously though, Kassian is still playing really well. His role is different now as he's on a different line (or lines). He's doing good. Still not great defensively, but he's young, first full pro season, it'll come.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:21 PM

I was against the CH trade from day one. I'll ask people; who would you rather have now, Kassian or Hodgson? (This trade will define MG's career.) To trade a number one center for a goofball winger is the height of dementia.


I'm going to agree with others, although I don't think it was a good trade it's done and the best we could have hoped for is keeping CH till the summer and then trading him. His future with the Canucks was doomed from the start.

Back to zack...

The thing that concerns me is not that fact that he needs to develop, it's that the area he needs to develop is his level of intensity and work ethic. I'm just not sure it's something that can be developed, I see kids in my 5 year olds hockey that have it and some that don't to me it's something your born with.

I said this at the start of the season and I'll say it now, if I was AV I would sit Zack down and say "your on the 4th line, if you out hustle everyone on that line you go to the 3rd and can move up the lines by out hustling them etc... If you are out hustled on the 4th your going to Chicago." Making him work for It may be the only thing that can teach him how to work.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:30 PM

I was against the CH trade from day one. I'll ask people; who would you rather have now, Kassian or Hodgson? (This trade will define MG's career.) To trade a number one center for a goofball winger is the height of dementia.


Really unfair comment, but anyways...

Kassian seems a little lost at times. His first 10 games made him a 'star'; which may have resulted in the idea that he was an elite player. I think the pressure for him to play on the top lines takes away from his development. We all know that he is targetted to be a 'power forward' type. Having him play on the bottom lines will allow him to work on his 'crash and bang' play; which is what we want him to do...right? When he stops playing physical, he appears lost out there. He can be protected on these lines, so he will have the freedom to work on his game. I think Kass will go up and down the lines as needed, throughout the season. This gives him a chance to beome a very rounded and powerful player.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:58 PM

angers me canucks traded away a future legend


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:06 PM

Easy gunner!

I was against the trade when it happened, still question it. But not because Kass is a washout; the suggestion is stupid; just like Dave Bolland! :P

He can be just as valuable for us, and has shown glimpses of that already. I think Kass's development needs to be getting 5 or 8 shifts a game with the Twins to continue learning how to play. Then put his big arse wherever it's needed (and sometimes it is needed with Danny and Hank), 3rd line, to take care of some biz (hello Eager), 2knd line, wherever...

And really Hodgson is a 1st line centre because he is on a team in a mini-rebuild. He's not the top line centre in LA, or Philly or NY, here or on any of the top contenders. They are hoping he, and his team, develop into what you are incorrectly saying he is.

the only reason the management keeps playing this guy is because they don't want to admit they lost the trade


hodgson > kassian any day

hodgson makes other players around him better a solid play maker with a brain

angers me canucks traded away a future legend


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:19 PM

Chris Neil. 3rd line player is what I've all ways said Kassian would develop into. That's a compliment because I think Neil is great for his role.

Right now he's not there. It will take him a couple of years to develop into a Chris Neil.

CDC is too quick to anoint ppl as the next coming of ..... Just a couple of days ago I asked who would pass the puck on the 2nd line and someone called Kassian an incredible play maker, several ppl backed this poster up.

Fan boys get too excited with one pass or one goal. Kassian is not a top 6 player, he should be on the 3rd or 4th line.


Kassian has the speed, hands and hockey sense to be a top six forward, no question. He is a pass-first player who has the instincts and the ability to carry the puck and make plays with it. I'm optimistic that he can find some chemistry with our shoot-first centre. That said I agree he should be on the third line for now working on the defensive side of his game and on being consistently physical with spot duty on the top two lines now that we know he can score there. He's 22 years old, power forwards take longer to develop. It may take him three or more years to get there but people are idiots so we will continue to hear Cody Hodgson's name in the same sentence for as long as Cody has any success at all.

However I'm pretty sure yete is trolling.

edit: I also agree that Kassian can learn a lot playing with the Sedins and should continue to get shifts there.

Edited by Buttock, 18 February 2013 - 05:24 PM.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:35 PM

Well, there's your problem...

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:38 PM

Well, there's your problem...

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:39 PM

Fair enough I guess, it's only a matter of probably a few games until he'll score a couple goals have a big fight or huge hit and someone starts a KASSIAN RULES!! thread and the discussion will move there for a week or 2. then he'll slow down a bit again and we'll have another one of these threads.

maybe one day people will understand that consistency is an issue for more then half the league (especially the young guys). Otherwise they'd all make 5 million+

some good points there TO I didnt really think about how the length of the threads would affect the conversations. but I'm sure those interested would stay relatively up to date in them. +1


Glad we can reach some common ground. If a mod wants to act by creating a thread called "Kassian's Inconsistency Issues" into which these redundant threads -- which I agree that they are redundant -- into, then I'm all for it. If the mods put aside the time to moderate the number of topics that have a common theme, then power to them.

My beef is with people who are not mods, and thus have no power, entering every thread and calling it redundant. Just report it. If the mods see that it's the same users, then lock the individuals who are repeat offenders from making topics for a while. Not from posting, but making topics.

Perhaps, but then you're just as likely to change my opinion on redundant threads. You're welcome to reply, but don't be offended if I point out (in a nice way mind you, I'm not posting facepalms and calling people stupid) there are other threads on the same topic.

And I'd hardly consider continuing a discussion in threads that are less than 4 weeks old a necro bump. If a thread has not been replied to in weeks or more, sure, but if people are still posting in them and discussing the topic, then it's still a current thread. Just because it's not on the front page of new topics doesn't mean it's no longer useful and the "Multiple Warning Signs" thread has posts all the way up to last week.

The redundant thread from last night is an example of why it isn't futile to report threads that are the same as one posted recently. They do get locked in the hopes people will use the existing ones. Performance of the site is a small part of the issue, but finding and discussing topics in one place versus several is annoying for many users.


Yes. Please, by all means, report redundant threads. Leave it up to the mods to organize these boards. I would just like to understand why you feel the need to post your thoughts on redundant threads in every thread that is redundant. Just PM the mods, or propose to become one who operates in this department.

If these threads can be organized by mods, I'll be more than happy.


Here's my opinion on Kassian though (as Deb's already said there's no issue with this thread due to the discussion it's generating):

  • He does some things well in his own end, but he's never going to be a star contributor defensively.
  • He'll be more noticeable 5 on 5 and potentially on the power play considering his skillset.
  • He has worked hard on finding the right balance between size, speed and fitness for the NHL level so he can be more effective, but he's still young so we'll see ups and downs until he figures it out.
  • You can tell he knows how to contribute with better players, as well as create some space for himself against NHL'ers, but needs to figure out how he can apply that to make others around him better.
  • He's going to only get better, it's just a question of where his ceiling is and how long it takes him to get there.
  • He'll find games to get more involved in, and hopefully we see consistency in that effort as time goes on.


There, was that so hard? This, I can agree with.

I think Kassian is a player that will need to be very carefully coached. I hope AV can handle that. It seems to me like Kassian is having a hard time deciding what his role actually is. He needs to know exactly what he is going to do when he steps on the ice. I think the mixing of the lines because of Kesler's return, speedy 3rd line success, and Burrows taking back the 1st line (which I agree with) are all affecting his chemistry in a negative way.

AV needs to figure out (and actually observe, not just decide and set it in stone blindly) exactly what Kassian is going to do, and where he is going to play (not the 4th line! :mad:). Kassian needs an objective, not to just be told "go do good." Without an objective Kassian looks lost.

Prime example: Schroeder -- objective: prioritize defense, and pass to Raymond. He is succeeding because he is doing this. And he knows that to do this, he needs to forechack hard, because that is a good offensive defense. It's also a good way to get the puck, open space, and given to Raymond. Schroeder has put together the pieces to complete his game because it revolved around an objective.

The thing with this objective that was a mistake in the past with certain of our players was that when this objective is to "shutdown player A", then you're playing "Player A"'s game.

Kassian has no objective. His he a hitter? Fighter? Playmaker? Net crasher? Shooter? I don't even know right now. If he gets told to "make space and pass to Kesler", similar to Schroeder, then he'll know that hitting makes space. Board battles and cutting into the slot creates space. With a little communication with Kesler, Kassian should know where in this open space he'll be. This is obviously contingent on Kesler-Booth duo, since he'll be back.


Example 2: Cody Hodgson -- What was his role? Does anybody remember what his role was? Work on D and make plays with his revolving door linemates? It was never clear because he never had chemistry. Kassian is falling in that same hole.


As much as I'm sure everybody hates to hear me say at this point: it can be attributed to a coaching issue. Although, at this time, only to a certain extent. As has been pointed out in this thread, consistency is an issue with most young players. Kassian falls in this category.


Also, for clarification: my analysis of Kassian here wasn't all a response to you elvis15. I just thought I'd point that out, cuz sometimes when I respond and follow it up with a long post, people think the whole post is directed at them :P
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:12 PM

Hahaha!I knew being chronic cuts down on wind and endurance <_< lol. but I'm happy with K on the 4th line..he can earn his ice time,
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:14 PM

Glad we can reach some common ground. If a mod wants to act by creating a thread called "Kassian's Inconsistency Issues" into which these redundant threads -- which I agree that they are redundant -- into, then I'm all for it. If the mods put aside the time to moderate the number of topics that have a common theme, then power to them.

My beef is with people who are not mods, and thus have no power, entering every thread and calling it redundant. Just report it. If the mods see that it's the same users, then lock the individuals who are repeat offenders from making topics for a while. Not from posting, but making topics.



Yes. Please, by all means, report redundant threads. Leave it up to the mods to organize these boards. I would just like to understand why you feel the need to post your thoughts on redundant threads in every thread that is redundant. Just PM the mods, or propose to become one who operates in this department.

If these threads can be organized by mods, I'll be more than happy.




There, was that so hard? This, I can agree with.

I think Kassian is a player that will need to be very carefully coached. I hope AV can handle that. It seems to me like Kassian is having a hard time deciding what his role actually is. He needs to know exactly what he is going to do when he steps on the ice. I think the mixing of the lines because of Kesler's return, speedy 3rd line success, and Burrows taking back the 1st line (which I agree with) are all affecting his chemistry in a negative way.

AV needs to figure out (and actually observe, not just decide and set it in stone blindly) exactly what Kassian is going to do, and where he is going to play (not the 4th line! :mad:). Kassian needs an objective, not to just be told "go do good." Without an objective Kassian looks lost.

Prime example: Schroeder -- objective: prioritize defense, and pass to Raymond. He is succeeding because he is doing this. And he knows that to do this, he needs to forechack hard, because that is a good offensive defense. It's also a good way to get the puck, open space, and given to Raymond. Schroeder has put together the pieces to complete his game because it revolved around an objective.

The thing with this objective that was a mistake in the past with certain of our players was that when this objective is to "shutdown player A", then you're playing "Player A"'s game.

Kassian has no objective. His he a hitter? Fighter? Playmaker? Net crasher? Shooter? I don't even know right now. If he gets told to "make space and pass to Kesler", similar to Schroeder, then he'll know that hitting makes space. Board battles and cutting into the slot creates space. With a little communication with Kesler, Kassian should know where in this open space he'll be. This is obviously contingent on Kesler-Booth duo, since he'll be back.


Example 2: Cody Hodgson -- What was his role? Does anybody remember what his role was? Work on D and make plays with his revolving door linemates? It was never clear because he never had chemistry. Kassian is falling in that same hole.


As much as I'm sure everybody hates to hear me say at this point: it can be attributed to a coaching issue. Although, at this time, only to a certain extent. As has been pointed out in this thread, consistency is an issue with most young players. Kassian falls in this category.


Also, for clarification: my analysis of Kassian here wasn't all a response to you elvis15. I just thought I'd point that out, cuz sometimes when I respond and follow it up with a long post, people think the whole post is directed at them :P


I disagree with you, I think players already have rolls they play and it's the GM's and coaches job to play players in the rolls that are best for the type of player they are. So you made a good point what is Zacks roll?

The Canucks got him because they wanted a hard hitting power forward. We all know he has the skills if he chooses to use them he just has to have it made plane as day that the only way he stays on the team is by working hard well like this Schroeder kid you speak of. Play him on the 4th and make him earn it, it's what he needs even if its not what you want.


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:28 PM

Burrows grinds, digs and takes a beating in front of the net, can't say the same for Kass.


If there one thing Kass does better than Burr it's net presence.

When he was with the twins you couldn't move the guy from out front of the net, where do you think his five goals came from?
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:35 PM

I disagree with you, I think players already have rolls they play and it's the GM's and coaches job to play players in the rolls that are best for the type of player they are. So you made a good point what is Zacks roll?

The Canucks got him because they wanted a hard hitting power forward. We all know he has the skills if he chooses to use them he just has to have it made plane as day that the only way he stays on the team is by working hard well like this Schroeder kid you speak of. Play him on the 4th and make him earn it, it's what he needs even if its not what you want.


I didn't make that clear. Obviously, a role should suit a player. I've said this before: AV has roles set in stone instead of forming them around the players. This is true. I should have clarified this. AV needs to design Kassian's role around his skillset, and tell Kassian what to do based on that. Kassian needs direction, and that direction SHOULD suit Kassian best, and how Kassian fits on that line.

4th line is not what Kassian needs. Kassian came here to be a big, tough, PRODUCING member of this team. He needs direction, not demotion.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:44 PM

I was against the CH trade from day one. I'll ask people; who would you rather have now, Kassian or Hodgson? (This trade will define MG's career.) To trade a number one center for a goofball winger is the height of dementia.

Kassian any day over a milk drinkin generic vanilla politician like Hodgson.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:51 PM

If that Hothead cant get fired up from all the Neg dumped on him and go nuts tommorow ...Its to late ya broke his spirit

Edited by PuckProphet, 18 February 2013 - 07:02 PM.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:53 PM

This shortened season is great for Kassian. Gives him a good taste, worst case scenario he ends up working his ass off on the fourth line. He'll have another off season to work on his decision making and hopefully through his workout regiment he can find new levels of consistency and continue improving year by year.

This year he is MUCH better than last. We can only hope for such strides each year.

Also:

Before Elvis15: EVERY post was on topic and focussed.

After Elvis15: 18 posts hijacked by his high horsed sidetracking shenanigans.


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:57 PM

Play him on the 4th and make him earn it, it's what he needs even if its not what you want.


Playing Kassian on the 4th line is worse than useless for a variety of reasons, not least of which is his impaired develeopment. Kassian doesn't need to be a superstar overnight, he needs to develop his game through a variety of challenges. Playing 5-8 minutes a night with linemates who can't create anything offensively isn't going to to help him or the Canucks. (He can learn defense on ANY line.)

For the longer term, I think a perfect fit would be on the 2nd line with shoot-first mates Booth and Kesler. For right now, his play will dictate how, where, and for how long he's used. But if he isn't in the top 9, he should be in Chicago.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:00 PM

This shortened season is great for Kassian. Gives him a good taste, worst case scenario he ends up working his ass off on the fourth line. He'll have another off season to work on his decision making and hopefully through his workout regiment he can find new levels of consistency and continue improving year by year.

This year he is MUCH better than last. We can only hope for such strides each year.

Also:

Before Elvis15: EVERY post was on topic and focussed.

After Elvis15: 18 posts hijacked by his high horsed sidetracking shenanigans.


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Nah, it's getting back on track once the real mods made him look like a fool.

Since then, he's brought up some good points on the topic, and proper discussion has ensued.

If you would like a summary:

Kassian struggles with a pretty common and basic case of inconsistency, which I feel is accentuated by a lack of a defined direction as a result of a mishandling on AV's part.

Hope that helps.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:14 PM

Kassian struggles with a pretty common and basic case of inconsistency, which I feel is accentuated by a lack of a defined direction as a result of a mishandling on AV's part.


Don't you think you're assuming a lack of direction on AV's part? We don't really know what he's told or hasn't told Kassian about his role.

As for Kassian's 3 line changes, they're easily explained. AV wanted to find out, right away, Kassian's potential for offense. Kassian, obviously, had great success there, but also more importantly for the long run, that he had the offensive smarts -- puck protection/shielding, going to the right areas in front of the net and in the slot, passing/cycling -- to succeed there. Next up, AV wanted to see what Kassian could do with a defense-first combo (3rd line), and then that got changed when Kesler returned, and a more complex two-way responsibility was tried.

It all points to AV wanting Kassian to realize that every component is needed. I think it serves to make a case that AV thinks Kassian could be a complete player, and wants to give him a chance to display his abilities in a variety of ways. Maybe AV's asking too much of him right now, but when the line-up is set, I think we'll see AV using him in a third-line role, and if he can contribute more consistently offensively (probably not going to happen this year), then to the 2nd line. If he fails on the third, then back to the Wolves.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:25 PM

Don't you think you're assuming a lack of direction on AV's part? We don't really know what he's told or hasn't told Kassian about his role.

As for Kassian's 3 line changes, they're easily explained. AV wanted to find out, right away, Kassian's potential for offense. Kassian, obviously, had great success there, but also more importantly for the long run, that he had the offensive smarts -- puck protection/shielding, going to the right areas in front of the net and in the slot, passing/cycling -- to succeed there. Next up, AV wanted to see what Kassian could do with a defense-first combo (3rd line), and then that got changed when Kesler returned, and a more complex two-way responsibility was tried.

It all points to AV wanting Kassian to realize that every component is needed. I think it serves to make a case that AV thinks Kassian could be a complete player, and wants to give him a chance to display his abilities in a variety of ways. Maybe AV's asking too much of him right now, but when the line-up is set, I think we'll see AV using him in a third-line role, and if he can contribute more consistently offensively (probably not going to happen this year), then to the 2nd line. If he fails on the third, then back to the Wolves.


Possibly. However, there really hasn't been enough time in any given role for him to get acclimated. I think he's being switched around too frequently. AV needs more patience with prospects. Schroeder is very lucky he had instant chemistry with Raymond.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:41 PM

Possibly. However, there really hasn't been enough time in any given role for him to get acclimated. I think he's being switched around too frequently. AV needs more patience with prospects. Schroeder is very lucky he had instant chemistry with Raymond.


I agree with this. Kassian is a rookie with special skills that we have not seen on this team (Bert wasn't a rookie). There are really no mentors on the team for the kind of player Zack can be, so the team needs to coach him in a planned and strategic way. I don't mind seeing him on the bottom 6 as long as he is given sustainable direction and opportunities to move up the line from time to time (he seems like the type of player that can get bored easily). He has enough skills to be an nhl player, but it would be sad to see him stuck at that level. The coaching staff need to be patient and creative in developing this player.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:52 PM

This shortened season is great for Kassian. Gives him a good taste, worst case scenario he ends up working his ass off on the fourth line. He'll have another off season to work on his decision making and hopefully through his workout regiment he can find new levels of consistency and continue improving year by year.

This year he is MUCH better than last. We can only hope for such strides each year.

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Like he doesn't actually have a valid point though. How long before someone else is just gunna start a new ZK thread? And everything being discussed here has to be reposted there. Probably after tomorrow nights game, when someone whines cause Kassian didn't Bertuzzi Duncan Keith.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:55 PM

It seems to me that Kassian has just forgotten what his role is on the team...If he does not play a physical crash and bang,he's just not effective ..it's as simple as that!..After his stint with the Sedins,maybe he thinks he's a finesse player with size...He's already shown what he is capable of.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:18 PM

It's funny how some are not happy because he is not Bertuzzi in his prime.

Kass is what? 22 years old? Did you see Bert at 22? Kass is on track at least and arguably better then a 22 year old bertuzzi. Power Forwards take time and you can see the hands and vision Zach has. It'll come and it'll be great.

Patience. The rewards will come.

Also, power forwards do go through slumps. They can't crash every game and the body needs to heal sometimes. Lets see what happens come playoff time

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:28 PM

Don't you think you're assuming a lack of direction on AV's part? We don't really know what he's told or hasn't told Kassian about his role.

As for Kassian's 3 line changes, they're easily explained. AV wanted to find out, right away, Kassian's potential for offense. Kassian, obviously, had great success there, but also more importantly for the long run, that he had the offensive smarts -- puck protection/shielding, going to the right areas in front of the net and in the slot, passing/cycling -- to succeed there. Next up, AV wanted to see what Kassian could do with a defense-first combo (3rd line), and then that got changed when Kesler returned, and a more complex two-way responsibility was tried.



It all points to AV wanting Kassian to realize that every component is needed. I think it serves to make a case that AV thinks Kassian could be a complete player, and wants to give him a chance to display his abilities in a variety of ways. Maybe AV's asking too much of him right now, but when the line-up is set, I think we'll see AV using him in a third-line role, and if he can contribute more consistently offensively (probably not going to happen this year), then to the 2nd line. If he fails on the third, then back to the Wolves.


+1

Well put coach.
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