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#1 billabong

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:54 PM

the sens season is all but done with the season ending injury to karlsson and spezza out for the next 2 months atleast so they most likey will be selling their vets like alfie, gonchar and latendresse for assets to help them long term. i know alfie has always respected the elite skill of the sedins and last year at the all star game in ottawa alfie said he always wanted to play with the sedins so i know he would love a chance to win a cup on a line with our all stars. how much would the sens want for him just to give a chance at the cup?

alfie is 40 years old but he can still produce at a steady rate with 5 goals, 10 points in 16 games. he is a UFA at the end of year and is expected to call it quits.

how much would you spend to acquire the sens captain?

personally, i wouldnt ship out anything special or anything that could come back and bite you in the butt because he is a purely rental player.....i know gmmg isnt much of a fan of rentals but i could see him making an exception for the right price

to ott: raymond, 3rd pick 2013, 4th pick 2014

to van: alfredsson

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burrows-kesler-booth
higgins-schroeder-hansen
weise-lapierre-kassian

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he solidfies the top 6 because u know what your getting in alfie and you need a solid line up to go all the way...obviously

....and i dont trust raymond to produce consistently in a long playoff run as much as i do with alfie


soooooo what do u think?

Edited by billabong, 18 February 2013 - 06:55 PM.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:59 PM

Absolutely nothing.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:04 PM

Could be a case like Ron Francis in 2003-04. In his last season, the Carolina Hurricanes traded him away for nothing so he could chase a Stanley Cup. He wanted to go to Vancouver or Toronto. Trade happened for a fourth round pick.

I suppose the same thing could happen. Alfredsson to Vancouver for a mid-round pick.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:07 PM

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:07 PM

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:08 PM

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:17 PM

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:33 PM

How funny would that be to have both Sundin and Alfredsson retire in Vancouver.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:52 PM

It would be pretty sweet to see the Twins and Alfie on the PP but it really doesnt address any issues we need. He is not a force on the ice as in the past, no real size. Do we really need to waste a pick on an aging superstar ? Yes Alfie has a little left in the tank but I doubt Van would bite on this no matter how cheap we can get him for. I just dont see him keeping up with anyone on our team for foot speed. Yo need to be Hella fast to play in Van.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:11 PM

Booth straight up.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:23 PM

rather have chris neil
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:31 PM

Booth for Alfie.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:00 AM

to ott: raymond, 3rd pick 2013, 4th pick 2014

to van: alfredsson


So we're trading a 27 year old pending ufa with 9 points in 14 games for a 40 year old pending ufa with 9 points in 15 games and we're giving them a 3rd and 4th round draft pick? Did you think this through at all? Or do you just like Ottawa so much you want to give them our draft picks as a gift?
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:32 AM

Rather have Gonchar. Obviously not top pairing, but he can certainly QB a powerplay, make nice passes and able to carry the puck out of the zone.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:10 AM

Rather have Gonchar. Obviously not top pairing, but he can certainly QB a powerplay, make nice passes and able to carry the puck out of the zone.

We can make room for both :bigblush:
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:18 PM

I probably wouldn't trade a major roster player for him (ie: Booth).
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:48 PM

Alfie will be a canuck if the sens are out of it by the playoffs. Not sure what we would trade though... mg should do everything in his power to land this guy... obviously at a reasonable price though.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:55 PM

Alfie came to my mind this morning, when I was taking a shower, after an intensive dawn/morning workout.

However, I strongly believe Alfie is a respected Sen, and as much as we would like to have him along with the Sedins, he will not be moving to another team, at this point.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:04 PM

Alfie came to my mind this morning, when I was taking a shower

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:32 PM

I'd give up booth straight up (and a pick probably (3 or 4th)).

Booth would have more playing time in Ottawa with either Turris or Spezza it could work. I don't think Booth is in the Canucks long-term plan (buyout this summer?). The money save on Malhotra and a Luongo trade means the canucks have money to go after a top 6 via UFA or Luongo trade this summer, meaning Booth drops to third line.

Alfie would be good for 1 season only probably and I would put him with Kesler and Kassian. Alfie is still a smart player, capable of setting plays, even though he slowed down a bit. Has more playmaking than any linemate Kesler ever had.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:34 PM

I'd give up booth straight up (and a pick probably (3 or 4th)).

Booth would have more playing time in Ottawa with either Turris or Spezza it could work. I don't think Booth is in the Canucks long-term plan (buyout this summer?). The money save on Malhotra and a Luongo trade means the canucks have money to go after a top 6 via UFA or Luongo trade this summer, meaning Booth drops to third line.

Alfie would be good for 1 season only probably and I would put him with Kesler and Kassian. Alfie is still a smart player, capable of setting plays, even though he slowed down a bit. Has more playmaking than any linemate Kesler ever had.

And after this season? Our top 6 is pretty bad as it is, and now you wanna trade one of the players in it for a half year rental?
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:11 PM

I would do it for prospects and picks. I actually really like Booth, I think people trying to dump him are nuts. Alfie would look great on the 2nd line next to Kesler.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:58 PM

TMI allkill.



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:36 AM

I'd definately trade Booth for him. He's a lot more steady than Booth is, and although Booth is younger, Alfie has way more leadership (obviously...he's the captain) and dare I say it, Tenacity.

Booth can drop the gloves, but that doesn't really account for much if he can't put the puck in the net. If Alfie is taking crap, he'll take shots back and can let his play do the talking as well.


Think of Alfredsson as our Recchi in the 2011 Playoffs

Picture this also:
We trade Booth (and maybe a pick) for Alfredsson before the deadline and make a run in the playoffs with him and the Sedins leading the charge.

If we falter and miss our goal of the Cup, Alfie can either choose to stick with us as a contender or retire.
We then have the option to trade a goalie, and fill Alfredsson's void possibly by trading up in the draft or for an existing roster player.

Our lines could be:

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows (Ol' Reliable)
Alfie-Kesler-Kassian (Playmaker,Sniper, Power-forward)
Raymond-Schroeder-Hansen (The speed/energy line)
Higgins-Lapierre-Volpatti (Pest line)
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PP 1

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Edler-Hamhuis

PP 2

Alfie-Schroeder-Kassian
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 09:24 AM

I don't see trading a 28 year old booth for a 40 year old. Seems like Alfie will retire a senator but if we were to get him I wouldn't offer much.

....and i dont trust raymond to produce consistently in a long playoff run as much as i do with alfie


so you trust a 1st liner to outproduce someone that usually plays on the 3rd line? you don't say
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:47 PM

And after this season? Our top 6 is pretty bad as it is, and now you wanna trade one of the players in it for a half year rental?


We likely can't afford Booth next season anyway, and his value really won't be that high in the off-season.

So it's either Alfie for a playoff run, or midling prospects and picks in the summer. Personally I'd like to see this team go for it while we still can.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:49 PM

Id offer up Raymond, Rodin, 2nd.

Im sure some team out there will beat that offer though.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:52 PM

everyone trading booth after a couple games?... typical...

Once he is back to form, he adds an element the Canucks need... Physical fast forward wholl drive the net... He is so undervalued by most Vancouver fans.

He has 12 hits in first 3 games back from injury by the way... and with sheltered minutes. He's also generating chances, which its only a matter of time before some of those start hitting the back of the net. I wouldnt trade Booth untill the offseason at the very earliest... And again for those who talk about the buy-out... It aint gonna happen. Theres no player on the Canucks roster that there wouldnt be a taker for. You might have to accept less in a trade than youd like re: Luongo, but anything is better than having the owner pay the player a giant wad of cash, and recieving no assets in return. There are plenty of teams that could use a player like Booth, and I still believe that he has a few more chapters to write as a Canuck.

Im not saying he cant be traded, but he wont be given away for a 40 year old pending UFA.... tools... :picard:

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:03 PM

Yeah, don't trade Booth, or anyone else for that matter, but getting an aging superstar for the Cup run, is a good idea.

If Ottawa is out of it, they can do Alfie a favour by trading him to us, and would not need much more than a respectable offer.

The cap will probably be the most difficult thing.

Jagr sure looks great in Dallas and would look awesome on our 1st, 2nd, or 3rd lines.

I would think we would have to give up more to get Jagr.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:29 PM

I honestly think Alfredsson won't come to Vancouver. He's a long-time Sen, and he will retire a Sen.
If Ottawa asked for the Sedins, would you contemplate trading them? No.
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