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#1 kamaole

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:10 PM

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I have believed in the Canucks, Coach AV and all for years. But, I must admit I am getting frustrated...before you all scream back, just consider this:

Ok, I know AV loves the "calm and collected" approach and the "no highs, no lows" but this team from the coaches to the players looks down right sedated!!! It's time for some emotion! The cool approach has brought us to presidents trophies but beyond that, we lose it. That calm approach works in the regular season for the most part...but I wonder if it IS time for some highs and lows? Some urgency, some emotion & pride; some "jam" and "chutzpah". Luongo gets run over last night, Kesler hit twice in the shoulder area and we looked like we did not care; "oh well". I am sure they care, but from where I was sitting looking at the jumbotron, what I saw: Coach chews gum, says nothing. Players look straight ahead sitting on bench staring into space. There is no consequence for other teams pushing us around.

After being a life long season ticket holder, I finally want to see some spirit and some "ya, you want The Cup, you'll have to go through us to get it!" attitude. Time for Coach AV to go all "Tortorella" at times.

Where has the heart gone? If I hear "be patient" one more time from coach, players or GM, I will be angry. That approach needs a changin'!
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:25 PM

Regular season....naw. If they're not showing it in the playoffs then I'll get worried. In the meantime, no big highs and no big lows.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:26 PM

I also have a problem with the response after lu was run (there may have been a tiny push on backes) and the boarding calls on kesler. All 3 should have generated a response, but nothing. I don't expect it from this team considering no one ripped duncan keith's head off after his cheapshot on dan sedin.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:27 PM

Regular season....naw. If they're not showing it in the playoffs then I'll get worried. In the meantime, no big highs and no big lows.


Did you not watch the playoffs last season? They played like gabage then too. Very little urgency. However, Henrik sedin actually looked like he was playing with some intensity for once so I guess there is some hope.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:38 PM

Yeah this has been a problem since our last game against Boston....
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:49 PM

The thing about the calm cool and collected approach during the season and then playing with emotion in the post season is the team isn't used to playing with emotion. Season play is more than just establishing a position going into the playoffs, its about finding, building and developing the tools needed for a deep playoff run.

I'm with you OP, this team needs to start playing with more emotion, energy and intensity, and then carry that play into the playoffs.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:52 PM

We need a glass case of emotion. That would get them riled up.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:54 PM

Hi again,
Yes, I know it's early in the season. However, we ended the playoff run 2 years ago against Boston the same way with the same phrases heard ("be patient. Let our skill take over. No highs, even keel etc...") and Boston when they woke up, took it to us. We lost the cup before they even realized what was happening. Last year, same thing. LA was on fire and we approached the game the same way. This year, again, the same approach.

I dont' see this team flipping the switch in the playoffs; they are lulled into a style that borders on catatonic. I want to snap my fingers and yell "wake up!". There are very few teams that can play low key in the regular season to great success then switch it up all of a sudden for playoffs.

That is why I am respectfully worried. I have heard a few phrases lately that concern me like "we were up 3-1 at the start of the 2nd, so we thought we had them". Really, not even half way through a game and you are content to sit back and take it easy in this league? Another one by BIeksa lately: "we did our thing early on and then we knew our skill would just take over". Really? In other words, the defence could then sit back?" That was in reference to the D falling apart a bit as the game went on.

Yes, time will tell. Maybe I am worried for nothing.. I have a funny feeling though, that we are going to hear "be patient" again.....all the way to losing in the playoffs....
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:10 PM

Haven't seen a lack of emotion at all to be honest. The team has a good record and has been playing well.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:11 PM

i agree on all accounts.. this team under AV seems complacent.. the players may not act like it but for the fact that they cant seem to play a full 60, just like most of last season, their actions tell a different story.

lately they have not been playing great hockey but as the op said there seems to be a real lack of emotion, particularly from the coach and its become a problem imo. obviously none of us know what happens in the locker room but I for one would like to see our coaching staff be more engaged with our team..
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:15 PM

Haven't seen a lack of emotion at all to be honest. The team has a good record and has been playing well.


in what capacity? just because the canucks can beat up on the NW division that means theyve been playing well? cuz from the looks of the last couple games they are a long way off from being a stanley cup final contender. our pp needs work, we rely far too much on our goaltenders to play lightsout, shootouts are pretty much a sure loss since nobody can score apparently..
not to sound pessimistic but holy crap the standings just like stats do not tell the whole story..

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:58 PM

Watching some Canuck games ,reminds me of watching those wild animal shows.
The ones where a lion or cheetah will take down a zebra or wilderbeast etc, and when the chase is over and they caught one of them, they calmly watch one of them being eaten alive (maybe one of the many reasons us fans hate the " zebras", is because subconsciously,we dont like it when our team behaves like the animal zebras) :)
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:03 PM

Ballard took action and got a tripping call I believe last night after the Luongo incident...?
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:09 PM

lmao @ canuck fans

first its toughness now we are lacking emotion
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:17 PM

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lmao @ canuck fans

first its toughness now we are lacking emotion


These have been concerns the entire time.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:21 PM

lmao @ canuck fans

first its toughness now we are lacking emotion


I think what is lacking is intensity and tenacity but it comes across like a lack of emotion. I don't doubt the guys play with emotion, they are human,

Watching the Nucks versus other top teams is the lack of compete on the puck, a slow transition game, the lack of a 60 minute effort which seems tied to complacency when they have a lead.

It's the lack of speed and urgency that has been the problem on the offensive side of things particularly the PP. Everyone standing around the perimeter passing the puck looking for the perfect shot because no-one wants to force the play. The Nucks play the PP almost as if they are protecting against an odd man rush. The other night thewy had a 5-3 and never got a shot...WTF!!! Again, looks like no emotion but is really a lack of intensity and urgency.

It could be coaching, it could be the personalities of the team but I honestly don't see this team going deep in the playoffs unless they raise their compete level.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:28 PM

Haven't seen a lack of emotion at all to be honest. The team has a good record and has been playing well.


8-6-6 is not good for a team that is spending the most on players in the league
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:29 PM

lmao @ canuck fans

first its toughness now we are lacking emotion


As for toughness...this team is not tough!! Look at our top 9 the only guy we have in tha tgroup (and he's in the doghouse right now) is Kassian and he's a 22 year old rookie.

The Sedins and Burrows = weak
Higgins Kes and Booth = decent size and speed but let's face it, none of them are mean or iintimidating
SchroederRaymond and Hansen = fast, pesky but certainly not tough or intimidating

We have a couple guys on the 4th that are bigger and can hit hard and will fight but when they're only on the ice for 6 minutes a game and basically get benched in close games or the playoffs, they aren't much of a factor.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:41 PM

Since the SCF against Boston the Canucks strategy has been to play not to lose most nights. That is very different than playing to win though. That is why it works in the regular season but not the playoffs.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:44 PM

I wish folks would stop saying "look at our record". It's what we are seeing (or not seeing) that predicts the future. This team needs some jump ASAP.

Even on the radio today hockey analysts were saying teams around the league know Vancouver to be somewhat weak & therefore no consequence to taking some liberties with our players. It's not about being goons, but it's about team togetherness; one-for-all kind of mentality.

Like I said, I might be wrong.....time will tell. If the Canucks don't go far in the playoffs, or even get in (remember, we are on a 2 game losing skid, going into Detroit, Chicago and Nashville...could become a 5 game slide worth 10 points), it will be due to lack of emotion, but hey.....

at least they will be "patient"/.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:54 PM

in what capacity? just because the canucks can beat up on the NW division that means theyve been playing well? cuz from the looks of the last couple games they are a long way off from being a stanley cup final contender. our pp needs work, we rely far too much on our goaltenders to play lightsout, shootouts are pretty much a sure loss since nobody can score apparently..
not to sound pessimistic but holy crap the standings just like stats do not tell the whole story..

The last two games where we've outplayed both Dallas and St. Louis? We out-chanced the Blues 20-9 that game and dominated the 3rd and overtime only to lose in a shootout. We aren't relying on our goaltenders at all, they've had it pretty easy back there. PP has been looking pretty good lately as well, PP goals in 3 out of the last 4 games I believe.

Feel free to continue the doom and gloom though after 2 losses where we outplayed the opponent.

8-6-6 is not good for a team that is spending the most on players in the league

We're 8-3-3...
No wonder so many people are crying, they don't even know what's going on.

Edited by Duodenum, 18 February 2013 - 11:54 PM.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:04 AM

The last two games where we've outplayed both Dallas and St. Louis? We out-chanced the Blues 20-9 that game and dominated the 3rd and overtime only to lose in a shootout. We aren't relying on our goaltenders at all, they've had it pretty easy back there. PP has been looking pretty good lately as well, PP goals in 3 out of the last 4 games I believe.

Feel free to continue the doom and gloom though after 2 losses where we outplayed the opponent.

We're 8-3-3...
No wonder so many people are crying, they don't even know what's going on.


again dont mean to sound doom and gloom and ive certainly felt this way for a long time about our club bot just after these recent games.. both games that should have been wins for this team.
honestly im just concerned that these last two losses will turn into more losses before all is said and done.. shortened season and they need to keep up the winning.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:16 AM

again dont mean to sound doom and gloom and ive certainly felt this way for a long time about our club bot just after these recent games.. both games that should have been wins for this team.
honestly im just concerned that these last two losses will turn into more losses before all is said and done.. shortened season and they need to keep up the winning.

It might, we do have Chicago next. A few losses isn't going to do much, the Canucks should still easily make the playoffs.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:33 AM

Lappy, Burrows and Kesler are more effective when they are aggitating, AV, let them freeeee!
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:31 AM

i agree with the host of this thread.... the Canucks need to be red hot hungry to deserve the CUP, hell i tried hockey one time and when i shot the puck like a tough defensemen i broke the goalies mask and SCORED!
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:52 AM

Haven't seen a lack of emotion at all to be honest. The team has a good record and has been playing well.


Yes and no. The team does have a respectable record but this business of blowing leads almost every game is very concerning.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:05 AM

There's emotion an emotional entanglement to AV system.
Av needs to go. Coaches don't last this long especially when he has nothing new. Oh wait! He did bring in the relax, stay cool and defend the lead defensive jems.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:26 AM

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:27 AM

Even on the radio today hockey analysts were saying teams around the league know Vancouver to be somewhat weak & therefore no consequence to taking some liberties with our players.


Do you mean the drama queens on 1040 who can (and have) filled 4hr on-air time slots with completely useless rhetoric rivaled only by that which is displayed daily on these boards?

Ya, know what ya mean....
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:45 AM

No........ I am not referring to team 1040............ I am referring to comments from actual players (active & non) and coaches who have said this here & there over the course of the last couple of years. Please, I don't base my opinion 1040. I base it on the obvious lack of fortitude, energy & 60 min sustained pressure as well as players coming out saying Canucks are soft. I love my team, but the're right. Mentally & physically soft.
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