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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:19 PM

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I dont care if it was accidental, why didnt anybody even lay a finger on Backes? Who cares if we take a penalty! We need to show the league we have team toughness and that nobody accidental or on purpose can touch or get anywhere near our 2 elite goalies..... I dont care if someone jumped him and took a 5 and a game and STL goes on to score 4 PP goals... Does it really matter if we lose on a Sunday night vs a non Division Team??? is there any doubt that we're not going to win this Division?

Standing up for eachother can unite and propel a team together. This is what I think separates the Canucks from being Elite.

You think A Canuck can run Rask, Quick or Lundqvist without re precautions ?
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:23 PM

Shouldn't a Canuck have beat up Bieksa for shoving him into Luongo then?
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:24 PM

A lot of blood hungry peeps on this board.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:27 PM

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Because the guys that would have got their licking in were sat due to being down a goal.

We can thank AV for that. I was going to call in and tell Moj this. This team gets their identity from their coach. Let's face it, AV is the type of coach who rarely displays any emotion on his sleeve. His mentality for as long as he has been here is turn the other cheek. Remember when we were told that Kassian was a mean guy? Remember when Kassian said he likes to stick up for his teammates? Why was he benched. Yes I understand that he wasn't having the greatest game, but what's the point of having someone who is mean and would actually do something about the situation on the bench?

What about Volpatti? HELL EVEN DALE WEISE? There was no response due to our coach's mentality...I like AV as a coach, but when it comes to crap like this, we're a team that basically tucks our tail between our own two legs because of him. Remember when he held Kassian back last year on the shoulder....

Don't blame the players, blame AV for instilling this type of mentality of "look the other way". It doesn't matter who we trade for if this the type of coaching they're going to get. AV needs to let those guys go when crap like this happens.

Edit: This isn't a fire AV post rather AV change your damn mentality and show a little bit of emotion so your players play the game with the same type of intensity. You go to war for your players, and they'll go to war for you. That's how successful teams have been successful. The only time AV has gone after anyone was David Bolland....while that was witty, I'm sick of how he's so soft-spoken.

Edited by The Kassassin Train, 18 February 2013 - 11:29 PM.

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The key difference is that Sopel can fill in for Seabrook and Campbell just fine. Bieksa, he is garbage so in that sense he is like the worst defenseman in the league.


When Cody (Hodgson) gets older, he might be better than Datsyuk.


Let's not push this guy (Kassian). He's still immature, and if he fails on the 2nd line it's because he isn't ready. Some guys really need years to develop, it's how well and how fast players adapt to the game. In my opinion, I'd rather have Horvat getting 2nd line minutes. He will start off on the 3rd line next season but I see him making the transition, being a great compliment to whoever plays his wings.

At this point, I don't see Kassian fitting in to any role other than a 3rd. If players like Kassian start getting 2nd line minutes then we just stay inconsistent as a team.


The idiocy on CDC....

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:28 PM

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A lot of blood hungry peeps on this board.


No. Attacking and beating the sh*t out of Backes would have been a normal, and appropriate response.

You must think we are blood hungry because you are used to this disgraceful non responsive behavior this team is known for.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:28 PM

It didn't seem all that malicious and Lu gave it a nice touch.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:29 PM

I agree that it would of been nice to see a response against backes . I wonder if the snacks thought they would get a powerplay and didn't want to take a penalty. Bad non cell definitely by the refs especially after Raymonds was called back against Dallas

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:36 PM

No. Attacking and beating the sh*t out of Backes would have been a normal, and appropriate response.

You must think we are blood hungry because you are used to this disgraceful non responsive behavior this team is known for.


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:41 PM

Shouldn't a Canuck have beat up Bieksa for shoving him into Luongo then?


Hamhuis, Bieksa, same person right?
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:42 PM

if Luongo didn't go down like a stack of cards every time someone breezes by him, I'm sure people would be more inclined to defend him when he's 'hit'
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:42 PM

It was an odd turn of events. Didn't you notice Backes turning around and protesting before he realised he wasn't going to the box. The team was pretty stunned.

Also the disturbing trend I see is that we may still be on double secret probation. Everytime someone hits one of our players from behind if a canuck even pushes the offender we are on the PK.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:43 PM

Hamhuis, Bieksa, same person right?

If you're implying that Hamhuis was the one who pushed Backes into Luongo, you would be incorrect.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:45 PM

No. Attacking and beating the sh*t out of Backes would have been a normal, and appropriate response.

You must think we are blood hungry because you are used to this disgraceful non responsive behavior this team is known for.


He obviously doesn't watch Boston or New York games. They go berserk when a guy just skates too close to their goalie!

I think some of it does boil down to AV. Kassian was supposed to be a deterrent to abuse of our players. It worked when he was with Dan and Hank. Since he's been demoted (or Burrows promoted) the abuse on the Sedins has been very evident. Lots of cheap shots after the whistle etc. The problem is, you can't have a pit bull and expect him to act like a poodle. For a player to be effective at being an intimidator, they have to play with an edge so they are in that mindset throughout the game. To bench them for any mistake is just neutering them and they become lap dogs. Kassian right now looks like a neutered puppy and is unsure of what his identity is.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:47 PM

Nobody even batted an eye at that. It was a complete joke. Fu*king rush the guy.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:48 PM

The OP's right. Games played on Sundays are meaningless.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:49 PM

Hamhuis, Bieksa, same person right?


Bieksa pushed Backes, not Hamhuis.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:49 PM

Judging from the responses I guess that all CDCers would love a goalie who can fight. AV can't bench the goalie can he?
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:51 PM

Judging from the responses I guess that all CDCers would love a goalie who can fight. AV can't bench the goalie can he?


He benches a goalie every game.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:54 PM

We should sign Dwayne Roloson for our next game vs St.louis.

We'll lose 10-9 but he'll lose his mind once or twice in net.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:57 PM

So what if Backes bumps Lu a little, nine times out of ten we go on a PP there. Charging in and roughing him up cancels out the powerplay and serves no purpose. When Rooney decides the Canucks can get f***ed, then it'd be a powerplay for them! Why do you want to put the Blues on the powerplay? They were converting at more than 40%! Your pointless eye-for-an-eye attitude would have had a 50% chance of costing us a point, at least! An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind...
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:59 PM

He obviously doesn't watch Boston or New York games. They go berserk when a guy just skates too close to their goalie!

I think some of it does boil down to AV. Kassian was supposed to be a deterrent to abuse of our players. It worked when he was with Dan and Hank. Since he's been demoted (or Burrows promoted) the abuse on the Sedins has been very evident. Lots of cheap shots after the whistle etc. The problem is, you can't have a pit bull and expect him to act like a poodle. For a player to be effective at being an intimidator, they have to play with an edge so they are in that mindset throughout the game. To bench them for any mistake is just neutering them and they become lap dogs. Kassian right now looks like a neutered puppy and is unsure of what his identity is.


I just made a statement. There sure seems to be a lot of people upset lately with the lack of retaliation at even the slightest bit of disrespect...in my opinion anyways. Not saying that some of it isn't warranted..just seems like there's a lot of touchy/angry people on the boards these days. Backes will get his. ;)
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:04 AM

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Look at Chicago's response to Torres.
Look at the Canuck's response to Keith.
Which team is considered soft?
Which team is a recent cup winner?

That's part of why I think we will never win a cup. A team like Boston just has to drag it down to the gutter. The mentality of turn the other cheek will not work. The refs will not keep the game even, or safe, or fair in the playoffs.
It's a physical game so get physical when opposing players take liberties. We don't need a Bertuzzi incident, but some line has to be drawn.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:05 AM

Because the guys that would have got their licking in were sat due to being down a goal.

We can thank AV for that. I was going to call in and tell Moj this. This team gets their identity from their coach. Let's face it, AV is the type of coach who rarely displays any emotion on his sleeve. His mentality for as long as he has been here is turn the other cheek. Remember when we were told that Kassian was a mean guy? Remember when Kassian said he likes to stick up for his teammates? Why was he benched. Yes I understand that he wasn't having the greatest game, but what's the point of having someone who is mean and would actually do something about the situation on the bench?

What about Volpatti? HELL EVEN DALE WEISE? There was no response due to our coach's mentality...I like AV as a coach, but when it comes to crap like this, we're a team that basically tucks our tail between our own two legs because of him. Remember when he held Kassian back last year on the shoulder....

Don't blame the players, blame AV for instilling this type of mentality of "look the other way". It doesn't matter who we trade for if this the type of coaching they're going to get. AV needs to let those guys go when crap like this happens.

Edit: This isn't a fire AV post rather AV change your damn mentality and show a little bit of emotion so your players play the game with the same type of intensity. You go to war for your players, and they'll go to war for you. That's how successful teams have been successful. The only time AV has gone after anyone was David Bolland....while that was witty, I'm sick of how he's so soft-spoken.

If you've ever seen Vigneault play you wouldn't say he turns the other cheek.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:14 AM

Nobody on the Canucks could handle Backes.

It wasn't that bad anyway.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:19 AM

Nobody on the Canucks could handle Backes.

It wasn't that bad anyway.


Backes is NOT a fighter. Had ONE fight all of last year and almost all of his fights are against complete non fighters. Not sure where people are getting the notion that he is tough.

Which is what makes this situation even worse, could have been easily put in his place.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:23 AM

The players were smart and waited vainly for the correct call that never was.

Sorry..with the PK still in flux id rather not have the players take a penalty.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:25 AM

Tell Kelly I said hi.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:26 AM

Im more upset with the no response to Polak after he drove Kesler head to the boards..
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:30 AM

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:38 AM

Im more upset with the no response to Polak after he drove Kesler head to the boards..


Same.

Bieksa pushed him and Backes tried to move as much as he could, then for the Cherry on top Lu flopped a bit.

Going after him would have just been dumb, since Backes really didn't purposely do anything.

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