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#1 RFK

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:45 AM

I wanted to pose a quick question before tonight's game.

Sports commentators have obviously devoted a great deal of attention toward the Hawks/Canucks rivalry in recent years. I have seen two countdowns (a top 5 and a top 10) examining the most noteworthy episodes between the two teams. The Roger Neilson incident that provided the foundation for 'towel power' topped both lists.

While this was indeed a very historic moment for our franchise, does anyone else find it ironic that this incident (billed by many as the peak moment) had no actual bearing on the Canucks/Hawks rivalry? Indeed, it preceded the rivalry by several years (in my estimation, anyway). The two teams met in the '95 playoffs but that series was very brief. The rivalry didn't come about until the late stages of the 2008-09 season.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:50 AM

We've been claiming an anti-canuck ref conspiracy ever since that white flag.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:58 AM

Towel power was less about a rivalry between the Canucks and the Hawks and more about the rivalry between the Canucks and the refs.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:02 AM

I'm not sure what your question is in your post... What are you asking exactly??

Edited by Viking13, 19 February 2013 - 11:03 AM.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:31 AM

I'm not sure what your question is in your post... What are you asking exactly??


I was essentially asking if the fans appreciate the irony of this episode being widely regarded as the best moment in the Canucks/Hawks rivalry.

I apologize if it wasn't clear.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:36 AM

I dont think so. The actual rivalry we have now didn't begin until '09, before that I dont recall any rivalry to speak of.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:39 AM

I was essentially asking if the fans appreciate the irony of this episode being widely regarded as the best moment in the Canucks/Hawks rivalry.

I apologize if it wasn't clear.


I don't think it is "widely regarded as the best moment" in the rivalry. As you said, it was a long time ago and predates the current rivalry by a long time. It is an iconic moment in Canucks history but doesn't have much association with the Black Hawks IMO.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:44 AM

as stated before, the towel was not waved at the hawks in surrender. it was waved at the refs by a coach who could see plainly that the refs could not be beaten.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:09 PM

as stated before, the towel was not waved at the hawks in surrender. it was waved at the refs by a coach who could see plainly that the refs could not be beaten.


Even though I remember the incident, I had actually forgot that it was against Chicago!

I believe a lot of the credit for the fan's picking up on this and bringing towels to the next game goes to Butts Giraud, of Dog's Ear T-shirts (if I remember correctly he made and/or gave out the towels for fans to bring to the next game).
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:11 PM

most noteworthy moment between the Canucks and Hawks /= anything to do with the rivalry between the Canucks and Hawks
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:17 PM

it was canucks vs refs
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:45 PM

best moment in Canucks-Hawks rivalry: burrows game 7 OT

towel power: conceived as a result of our frustration with reffing. today, an awesome display of vancouver fandom.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:12 PM

i wonder how the refs see it. i still see the towels waving as a call for a fairly reffed game. not to hope we get favoritisim.

Edited by canidiot, 19 February 2013 - 01:13 PM.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:15 PM

I'm not a fan of that white towel statue out front of the building. Doesn't anyone else think its funny to have a big statue of a guy surrendering out in front of the arena?
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:17 PM

i just tried to imagine AV waiving a white towel at the refs...that made me laugh
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:17 PM

The two teams met in the '95 playoffs but that series was very brief.


They lost in 4 straight in the second round to the 'Hawks. They lost in overtime, I think with a goal scored by Chris Chellios, and this would be the last goal scored and game played by the Canucks at the Pacific Coliseum.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:17 PM

It's still one of the greatest Hawks/Canucks moments. Rivalry aside. I'd go as far as to say it's one of the defining moments of our history.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:18 PM

best moment in Canucks-Hawks rivalry: burrows game 7 OT

towel power: conceived as a result of our frustration with reffing. today, an awesome display of vancouver fandom.

Although it should still be used as our frustration with reffing - cause they certainly haven't changed :D
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:19 PM

i just tried to imagine AV waiving a white towel at the refs...that made me laugh


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:36 PM

It's still one of the greatest Hawks/Canucks moments. Rivalry aside. I'd go as far as to say it's one of the defining moments of our history.


Absolutely. Its topping those lists indicates that it is of great significance to the league as well. Not a testament to the rivalry between the Canucks and Hawks but instead Neilson's daring and audacity. I think we've reached a consensus here.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:18 PM

i think it really started when we "slayed the dragon"
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:39 PM

I'm not a fan of that white towel statue out front of the building. Doesn't anyone else think its funny to have a big statue of a guy surrendering out in front of the arena?

Roger was a genius and he started the whole tower waving phenom that is now seen as normal in every NHL rink today.
This was Roger's protest and to me,a silent but powerful act of defiance.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:16 PM

I think the feelings if rivalry only came out in the last 5 years cause before that, for about 25 years, both team sucked large. Hawks and Canucks have arguably been the top 2 teams in the west for 5 years or so, hence the rivalry, as each is standing in the other's road to glory. Oh yeah, also, the Hawks have(or had) alot of good canadian players and that really pisses me off, as a canuck, more fuel for the fire.

Edmonton and Calgary still have a rivalry but it's not so pronounced these days cuz both teams suck so much, nothing really to fight for, if you see what I'm gittin' at.
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