inane Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think you missed the sarcasm. The NDP don't think that the HST is part of the election platform. They understand that it's ancient history. It was some guy who made a post earlier showing the Liberals election platform in point form and listed the HST as part of the list. I'll let you figure out who that was. BTW: Raising taxes is the only way to pay for the social programs that everyone of the left side of the spectrum seems to believe the Liberals "don't care" about. If you read the article in the OP, the NDP has similar ideas. I suppose that leaves you with no-one to vote for. Oh well, seems like you didn't want to "make the trip" anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Similar ideas? I'm pretty sure that's the NDP's idea that the Libs just chose to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 So is it a good idea or a bad idea? I don't see how it can be both. If you think it's a good idea, then there should be no reason to complain. I'd prefer a government that decides to implement something suggested by their rivals if it was good for the province, rather than a party that vehemently opposes a good idea, (such as a better system of taxation) simply because it was brought in by the government. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 So is it a good idea or a bad idea? I don't see how it can be both. If you think it's a good idea, then there should be no reason to complain. I'd prefer a government that decides to implement something suggested by their rivals if it was good for the province, rather than a party that vehemently opposes a good idea, (such as a better system of taxation) simply because it was brought in by the government. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'm not complaining about that. I believe if you want things, you need to pay for them--I've always said that. It's unfortunate that the same old 'free enterprise' Liberals took over a decade of 'tax cuts will pay for themselves' before here acknowledging they don't. I have said selling off assets to balance your budget is a horrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 You're side stepping the question of adopting ideas put forth by the opposition. Do you agree that it's a good idea, or is it a better idea to try and discredit absolutely everything they come up with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I don't care who comes up with the idea. To reject something just because you don't like the messenger is ridiculous. Both parties are equally guilty of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I don't care who comes up with the idea. To reject something just because you don't like the messenger is ridiculous. Both parties are equally guilty of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allkill326 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 The BC Liberal election platform; The worst of both worlds (left and right) -Increasing Corporate taxes -Increasing General Taxes -Inceasing MSP every year averaging 5% a year -Raising tuition rates (what were you paying 5 years ago?) -Selling profitable crown corporation assets -Spending millions of dollars of self serving praise government ads -Paying millions of dollars to defend a corrupt Basi and Virk -HST -Increased the debt to the highest levels in BC history Why vote for these clowns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 That's where I'm at. They're both different sides of the same corrupt coin. What a "choice" we have! Still don't know who I'm voting for other than it won't be either of those two parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 I disagree. The Liberals are pledging to adopt an NDP idea if re-elected, while the NDP did the exact ridiculous thing you mention, which was an integral ingredient to the eventual cost of billions of dollars to BC taxpayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yeah, the Liberals have never been guilty of that. Ok. sure. What is your point anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 My point is that the NDP staged a campaign against the HST, for the sole reason of undermining the Liberals, knowing full well that the cost to the taxpayers would be enormous. If you have an example of the Liberals doing the same, please post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 HST? How about the past decade where they called the NDP fascists/socialists while touting free enterprise to now go back on all that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 You'll have to provide some evidence of the Liberals calling the NDP "fascists", I have not personally seen that. Then maybe you can explain how it has cost the BC taxpayers billions of dollars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allkill326 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 How what has? You're mixing up issues here. You're ignoring my initial point, so I'll just leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 How what has? You're mixing up issues here. You're ignoring my initial point, so I'll just leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I think it was the NDP that spent taxpayers' money to advertise falsity on the Liberals. If the NDP rises to power, who knows what they will do with taxes, raising and allowing marijuana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Oh, did you have a point? From what I could tell, you just chimed in on a debate I was having with another poster to ridicule the Liberals for adopting an NDP idea. I replied that it was preferable to opposing a good idea just because it wasn't your own, especially when you know that your opposition could result in massive losses in revenue. Any other point you're trying to make is irrelevant to what was being discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 To me, it seems like this government is all media and marketing, and no policy or governance. Have they actually put forward any notable policy proposals since they brought in Clark as the new leader? Have they done anything worthwhile except ad buys (we can debate whether this is in fact worthwhile, but it is something they've done, for sure)? I've never voted NDP but unless there is a third-party candidate it doesn't look like I'm going to have much choice here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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