Sedinry Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Seriously, we have what ~3.5M in Cap space, we have 2 Goalies that are spectacular and either of them can be moved to free up a huge amount of Cap space and we have too many players that makes the team disjointed. What I mean is that we have a first line that is solid, we have too many players competing for the 2nd line and AV puts the wrong players on lines. We have Higgins, Raymond, Booth, Kassian who could all be on the 2nd line and then we have a great 3rd C in Schroeder and a great winger in Hansen, Raymond has been stellar on that line, so no reason to blow that up. Are we happy with the AMEX Line being our 2nd line? I don't think so. Instead trade one of them along with one of our goalies and get someone of SUBSTANCE. Look at what the past Cup winners have done, made huge acquisitions before going onto win the cup even though on paper they already had an amazing team. Case in point? LA Kings acquiring Jeff Carter. Moreover, by not having a solid 2nd line it leads to our 4th line being weak as a skilled player who isn't tough is on a line that is meant to be rough and tough. Our 4th line should be Weise - Lappy - Volpatti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I second that. Get us a game changer. Not another David Booth. Evander Kane would look great here. But no way in hell Lou waives his NTC for peg. So a three way deal would have to get it done. To Van- Kane To Florida- Luongo Raymond and a first then To Winnipeg- Raymond and Weiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossy Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I second that. Get us a game changer. Not another David Booth. Evander Kane would look great here. But no way in hell Lou waives his NTC for peg. So a three way deal would have to get it done. To Van- Kane To Florida- Luongo Raymond and a first then To Winnipeg- Raymond and Weiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Who says MG is the one that is waiting? If there's nobody out there with a serious offer, he can't beat it out of them. Are we happy with the AMEX Line being our 2nd line? I don't think so. Instead trade one of them along with one of our goalies and get someone with sustenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yete Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I second that. Get us a game changer. Not another David Booth. Evander Kane would look great here. But no way in hell Lou waives his NTC for peg. So a three way deal would have to get it done. To Van- Kane To Florida- Luongo Raymond and a first then To Winnipeg- Raymond and Weiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strombone1 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 he was waiting for this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChenWei91 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'd like a defenseman who actually knows how to play defense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedBeats™2.0 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Are we happy with the AMEX Line being our 2nd line? I don't think so. Instead trade one of them along with one of our goalies and get someone with sustenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2.0 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 For the record, I seriously think people overestimate the ease at which a General Manager can pull off a trade that will actually improve a team immediately. let alone how completely overestimate the ease at which most fans can sit back from behind their televisions and computer monitors and say "The lineup should be this-this-and-this" and "Trade him-and-him-for-him and we'll win the Cup", or "Look what this team did, do that and it'll work for us, too!". Its ridiculous. Not to mention we have no idea if any other GM is willing to part with what we need in exchange for whatever Gillis feels he can give up. Most of the issue seems to be with coaching and line-ups, and the mix-and-match style AV apparently adores to tinker with. Not to mention each player will have good nights and bad nights, and have great chemistry and bad chemistry in any given game, so its not like its an exact science to begin with. I believe the pieces are fine, its a matter of refining them and making them work. Case in point, our $24 million pylon defensive lineup tonight. They didn't work and the game was lost. Nothing really more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Who says MG is the one that is waiting? If there's nobody out there with a serious offer, he can't beat it out of them. You want him to trade for somebody that has food? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 You want him to trade for somebody that has food? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossy Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 For the record, I seriously think people overestimate the ease at which a General Manager can pull off a trade that will actually improve a team immediately. let alone how completely overestimate the ease at which most fans can sit back from behind their televisions and computer monitors and say "The lineup should be this-this-and-this" and "Trade him-and-him-for-him and we'll win the Cup", or "Look what this team did, do that and it'll work for us, too!". Its ridiculous. Not to mention we have no idea if any other GM is willing to part with what we need in exchange for whatever Gillis feels he can give up. Most of the issue seems to be with coaching and line-ups, and the mix-and-match style AV apparently adores to tinker with. Not to mention each player will have good nights and bad nights, and have great chemistry and bad chemistry in any given game, so its not like its an exact science to begin with. I believe the pieces are fine, its a matter of refining them and making them work. Case in point, our $24 million pylon defensive lineup tonight. They didn't work and the game was lost. Nothing really more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Seriously, we have what ~3.5M in Cap space, we have 2 Goalies that are spectacular and either of them can be moved to free up a huge amount of Cap space and we have too many players that makes the team disjointed. What I mean is that we have a first line that is solid, we have too many players competing for the 2nd line and AV puts the wrong players on lines. We have Higgins, Raymond, Booth, Kassian who could all be on the 2nd line and then we have a great 3rd C in Schroeder and a great winger in Hansen, Raymond has been stellar on that line, so no reason to blow that up. Are we happy with the AMEX Line being our 2nd line? I don't think so. Instead trade one of them along with one of our goalies and get someone with sustenance. Look at what the past Cup winners have done, made huge acquisitions before going onto win the cup even though on paper they already had an amazing team. Case in point? LA Kings acquiring Jeff Carter. Moreover, by not having a solid 2nd line it leads to our 4th line being weak as a skilled player who isn't tough is on a line that is meant to be rough and tough. Our 4th line should be Weise - Lappy - Volpatti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedBeats™2.0 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'd like a defenseman who actually knows how to play defense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas19 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Who says MG is the one that is waiting? If there's nobody out there with a serious offer, he can't beat it out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckfan85 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I 100% agree- we are not elite. Garrison is a joke, Kesler shows why he has to play on a line alone. Booth is not the answer. Go all in, use our cap space, use a prospect/pick get a guy that takes us to the next level. I'd even throw in Kassian if it brings us a big game breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understand Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 MG is waiting for a pitch so that he can hit a home run.....too bad he is about to get storke out if he continues to wait and being "patient"...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowest common denominator Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Doesnt even matter what we think. MG is happy with the roster, IMO, i am too. It is up to the players to play to their strengths within the the team concept. And MG is playing it cool. What he feels is a good deal, will be just that, a good deal. Now that the ideal roster are assembled, it could take a few more games to tweak the lines to play the style they want to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedinry Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 Who says MG is the one that is waiting? If there's nobody out there with a serious offer, he can't beat it out of them. You want him to trade for somebody that has food? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I second that. Get us a game changer. Not another David Booth. Evander Kane would look great here. But no way in hell Lou waives his NTC for peg. So a three way deal would have to get it done. To Van- Kane To Florida- Luongo Raymond and a first then To Winnipeg- Raymond and Weiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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