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#31 The Brahma Bull

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:01 PM

The video is very creepy and disturbing and I normally don't get so weirded out. My condolences and prayers go out to the family.


Same here. Something very unsettling about this footage. Hope they find out whatever the hell happened to her. The more I read the youtube comments, the more suspicious it gets.

No one on CDC better ever go to the Cecil. Reading the reviews of this hotel just creep me out even more.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:14 PM

Ok so she's found at the bottom of an almost full water tank... don't dead bodies float? Or was she weighted down?
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:22 PM

Ok so she's found at the bottom of an almost full water tank... don't dead bodies float? Or was she weighted down?


Or maybe there was suction that caused her body to get sucked down to the bottom of the tank?

I've been thinking about that Vancouver Sun excerpt posted early and it seems like it would be difficult to haul a dead body up there, so maybe she fell in or was trying to hide or something. Hate to speculate but I just feel so bad for her. :sadno:
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:26 PM

i think someone was following her in the elevator clip. she pressed all the level buttons to confuse whoever was following her. screwed up story but she got murdered.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:36 PM

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:22 PM

The place is haunted, has a bad history of death and she was possessed........Coming soon to a theatre near you!
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:27 PM

The place is haunted, has a bad history of death and she was possessed........Coming soon to a theatre near you!


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:36 PM

The area is pretty dodgy and there are a lot of homeless people and drug addicts/dealers in the area. I just question why she was even staying at a shady hotel in the shadiest part of the town. When I go to LA as a tourist, I don't stay at a Compton hotel.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:47 PM

The security video is certainly weird - she looks like she's on psychadelics, but then it almost looks likes she's communicating in sign language to someone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TjVBpyTeZM


It has probably been pointed out in the youtube comments, but did anyone else notice that when the elevator door closes at 2:57 of this video, it doesn't look natural. It looks like a frame was skipped or something. I know that some cameras look choppy in general, but the rest of the video seems like pretty fluid motion, but then at 2:57 part of the door is magically closed without a smooth transition Maybe I am wrong. When I compared it to other times that it opens and closes later on in the video, it definitely looks different. What do you guys think? Was this video doctored?

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:48 PM

From the footage i've seen, I really think that one of the staff member of the hotel has played a part into her death. Meaning one of the hotel's personnel is a murderer or is someone who knows the hotel surroundings very well and has access to restricted areas. In this case, I think the girl was probably raped and then dumped into the water tank. So the culprit tried to avoid the CCTV cameras and probably carried the body upstairs without using the elevator. This person probably had access to a ladder on the roof top and access to the elevator controls. In the video, the elevator door doesn't close at all, so this is what is making me really suspicious of the staff, along with the restricted access to the roof top.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:55 PM

Ok so she's found at the bottom of an almost full water tank... don't dead bodies float? Or was she weighted down?


Its been reported she was found floating at top of tank.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:55 PM

This has hit us really hard (my Dad, in particular, is terribly upset over this story) ... that video of her in what appears to be a state of absolute panic/distress just makes my heart sink. So horrible.

My own daughter shares a similar story and just went to San Fran/LA, etc. on her own. She left to get away from some obstacles here that have impeded her progress (she is suffering from anxiety and depression). She has friends down there, and daily check ins become the only piece of mind a parent has...to lose contact would be a nightmare. I can only imagine what these parents are going through - my sincere and heartfelt thoughts are with them.

I really wonder what was happening in that video...although some were quick to identify "drugs", her actions to me spoke of desperation. Like she felt threatened and maybe heard someone coming? Was trying to frantically prevent them from accessing the elevator and then they used the stairs?

Just awful. I cried when I watched that clip and was so pulling for a happy ending. :(

And, in seeing some of the comments - we should reserve judgement of "she was high/drunk" until this is proven. People with panic disorders also can exhibit some of these behaviors and depression and anxiety can go hand in hand. If she was completely traumatized by something, the hand gestures just may have been attributed to her running through scenarios in her mind. Sure, it does look like drugs, but I don't think jumping to conclusions is fair.



There is countless reasons why someone may appear to be or actually be disassociating from reality. It would be wise and respectful to reserve judgement indeed.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:05 AM

My personal opinion : That she was drugged (date raped) and what ever was in that drug/pill basically killed her, and the douche that was trying to take advantage threw in the water tank after she died to try and protect his sorry ass...Shady place after all..
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:07 AM

My personal opinion : That she was drugged (date raped) and what ever was in that drug/pill basically killed her, and the douche that was trying to take advantage threw in the water tank after she died to try and protect his sorry ass...Shady place after all..



Of course its a shady place, it is located in Central city East, LA.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:19 AM

i don't get why this girl stayed on Skid Row of all places, at one of the most infamous hotels in one of the most gnarly parts of the disgusting city of Los Angeles? a place that housed serial killers (note the plural), and now hosts a bunch of junkies and social outcasts

either this girl had a lot of skeletons in the closet, or she had never heard of tripadvisor
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:40 AM

So many things in this case are so weird. That video, the place she decided to stay at and how she got into the tank.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:46 AM

The part were she is waving her arm, that part kinda freaked me out..

She could have been high on some drugs, "when people are on drugs" high.

when she was waving her arms, was she talking to someone? But yea, foul play indeed.

btw, please dont bomb me with what I am going to say, but she went to school with my friend. All of them are shocked as hell.

But very mysterious, because you pretty much have to know how to get to the roof, by getting to the top of the roof, she can't wanter off by herself. Could be the work of hotel staff.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:48 AM

Its been reported she was found floating at top of tank.


From the Sun article:

Lopez said the hotel has four cisterns on its roof that are each about 10 feet (3 metres) tall, 4.5 feet (1.37 metres) wide and hold at least 1,000 gallons (3,785 litres)of water pumped up from city pipes.
Lam's body was found Tuesday morning at the bottom of one cistern that was about three-quarters full of water, Lopez said.
The opening at the top of the cistern is too small to accommodate firefighters and equipment, so they had to cut a hole in the storage tank to recover Lam's body.
The cisterns are on a platform at least 10 feet (3.05 metres) above the roof.
To get to the tanks, someone would have to go to the top floor then take a staircase with a locked door and emergency alarm preventing roof access.

Another ladder would have to be taken to the platform and a person would have to climb the side of the tank


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:03 AM

jesus that's creepy
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:13 AM

the whole incident is just weird, in her video, she didn't seem scared or in a hurry at all, if someone was coming after me i would have pressed to the lobby and pounded on the close door button like crazy, but she took her time pressing each button and waited for the door to close.

then when the door didn't close, it almost seemed like she playfully jumped out and looked to both sides

and regarding why the door.didn't close for so long, i know that some older lifts have a hold door button on the bottom for loading convenience, so she might have accidentally pressed it too

i really want the cops to find out what happened to her, poor girl rest in peace
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:15 AM

Yeah I assumed that her body was at the bottom of the cistern, wouldn't it have to be to disrupt the flow of water into the hotel itself?
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:19 AM

It has probably been pointed out in the youtube comments, but did anyone else notice that when the elevator door closes at 2:57 of this video, it doesn't look natural. It looks like a frame was skipped or something. I know that some cameras look choppy in general, but the rest of the video seems like pretty fluid motion, but then at 2:57 part of the door is magically closed without a smooth transition Maybe I am wrong. When I compared it to other times that it opens and closes later on in the video, it definitely looks different. What do you guys think? Was this video doctored?


ah, yeah you're right, there's a jump basically right as the door starts to move.

also the counter at the bottom, which is blurred but you can still see in motion, freezes 3 times right before that.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:34 AM

Wow that's creepy... what the hell, I don't feel too good sleeping now...
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:07 AM

Yeah, the camera video definitely has some frames missing. I am still wondering why that elevator door never closed.

As for the cistern, the dimensions make it sound highly unlikely that for whatever reason she could have caused her own death. There's also restricted access to reach that area to have put her body in the water tank, so I'm thinking there must be an employee involved. Who else would know about water tanks on the roof to stash a body? Who else would have access?

There's still no explanation why she was in such a seedy area, so close to the city's skid row.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:17 AM

Yeah, the camera video definitely has some frames missing. I am still wondering why that elevator door never closed.

As for the cistern, the dimensions make it sound highly unlikely that for whatever reason she could have caused her own death. There's also restricted access to reach that area to have put her body in the water tank, so I'm thinking there must be an employee involved. Who else would know about water tanks on the roof to stash a body? Who else would have access?

There's still no explanation why she was in such a seedy area, so close to the city's skid row.

Or why she went alone there too. So weird and unsettling.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:46 AM

this looks like a Sherlock Holmes case....

There's a lot of strange things about this that didn't add up.

She looks to be a kinda of panic state in that evaluator... like she is trying to get away from someone and divert them.

We will have to wait to see the autopsy but it looks like something is up.

The first thing would be to find out why is was traveling to Santa Cruz and why she stop at a Skid Row hotel....

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:04 AM

this looks like a Sherlock Holmes case....

There's a lot of strange things about this that didn't add up.

She looks to be a kinda of panic state in that evaluator... like she is trying to get away from someone and divert them.

We will have to wait to see the autopsy but it looks like something is up.

The first thing would be to find out why is was traveling to Santa Cruz and why she stop at a Skid Row hotel....

People not native of California tend to stop in LA and see that area first when they intend on going to areas like Santa Cruz. If she really intended on only going to SC she would have flew into SFO or SJC.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 07:21 AM

Acute psychosis, could be schizo given her age. Drugs can too.

the footage is reminds of those movies like jun-on or grudge.

the description of the location of the reservoir seems to suggest foul play but if she is acting out, it is possible it was self inflicted dep if there are evidence to suggest she did herself.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:25 PM

Check her laptop for messages from a boyfriend. She either met a guy online or she knew a guy who moved there who told her to come visit him in Santa Cruz. Its the reason she went alone. Last seen Jan 31 by hotel staff. Seen Feb 1st in the elevator scene. Something happened the night of Jan 31st between her and her bf. Whether it be hallucigenic agents, delirium (of which if it is, something must have induced it), or she was straight up running for her life. Bf dumps body. Missing for 18 days while the bf has vanishes into thin air. Maybe theres a trace, just a name (although it may be fake)

Of course, I'm only giving one scenario.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:33 PM

Autopsy came back inconclusive according to the coroner who's being interviewed on cbc radio right now. 6-8 wks. before the blood tests come back.
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