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[Discussion] Roberto Luongo Trade Thread 6.0

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Luongo is now leading the league in GAA.

I say we keep Luongo and trade Schneider.

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Luongo is now leading the league in GAA.

I say we keep Luongo and trade Schneider.

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Ok, so I admit that Im on board with keeping Luongo. Being that this team is not getting younger, Im willing to sacrifice the younger and cheaper goaltender without the NTC, for a likley larger ransom than we'd get for LUi (Whos still the better goalie imo), and make a strong push for the cup for the next year or 2 (likley the last of the Sedins most productive years).

But the most rational longer term thinking, and best business plan would be to keep Cory, as it would likley help the Canucks to remain strong at that position for longer than Luongo could sustain, which would help to remain competitive eoungh to keep fans heavily interested. If the Nux traded Cory, won the Cup with Lui, and then faded, Im betting that long term business projections would be less than it would if they came up short, but remained relevant.

Its the combination of the two that Gillis is looking for.... How do we make this team a winner for the now, and remain a top club? THats why the price tag on Luongo is sky high. A peice needs to come back that improves the clubs chance of winning now and later.

The best possible outcome.... We keep both for the season, Canucks win the Cup while riding Luongo (who becomes a Vezina finalist adn Conn Smythe candidate), we trade him at the draft for a slew of picks and prospects.

A good sign in this scenario (for those hoping for a mid-season trade) is that the Panthers are now sreiously looking at what they really have in Markstrom. Is he ready to step into a #1 position? Theyre done with Theodore and Clemmenson, and if they are un-satisfied with what they see in Markstrom, Im betting they come closer to Gillis' asking price, and possibly then explore trading Markstrom to fill what possible hole is left from aquiring Luongo.... And theres no question that thered be interest in Markstrom... especially like a team such as Edmonton, who may be willing to part with a young stud or 2.

hmmmm.... proposal time :)

At the deadline:

To Edmonton:

Markstrom

Weiss

To Folrida:

Paajarvi

Gagner

1st round pick

At the draft:

To Florida:

Luongo

To Vancouver:

Bjugstad

1st round pick (Edmonton) or 1st round pick (Florida) whichever is better.

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Rather trade Schneider than Luongo and see him go to either Washington or Winnipeg. I know Winnipeg has pavelec but don't think he is as good as people think he is

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id imagine gillis has some solid deals on the table for cory but is holding out to see if Lu's recent play and attitude heats up the talks for him closer to the deadline. Id only trade cory if its for a bluechip youngster. If not then i think were better off going forward with the younger goalie

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I think Forsberg would look good in a canucks jersey along with pieces from both sides as well or Bogo from the jets alongs with pieces on both sides there too maybe try and make some kinda deal for Ladd in the same deal just some ideas I think Schneider would love to play in Winnipeg

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id imagine gillis has some solid deals on the table for cory but is holding out to see if Lu's recent play and attitude heats up the talks for him closer to the deadline. Id only trade cory if its for a bluechip youngster. If not then i think were better off going forward with the younger goalie

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WPG

Raymond

Ballard

Schneider

1st

VAN

Ladd

Byfuglien

Ladd's got two Cups. That cannot be a nuisance. Byfuglien is one of those Stanley Cup performers too. If the Canucks could somehow get both while keeping most of the team intact, those two players are the type of players that would put Vancouver over the top.

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Franson is the same player he's been for the last few years - he's just being utilized this yr like he was in Nashville. That's why he 'appears' successful. He's a guy with a good shot, a PP guy, but eats weak minutes. He's always played incredibly sheltered minutes, low even strength TOI, high PP mins, low SH mins, and against really weak competition. Carlyle know how to use him, Wilson didn't.

In AV's system, no way he replaces any d-man in the Canucks top 6, unless they're injured. He's not the type of d-man AV covets. If AV has to 'design' ice time for a defenseman to be successful, he'll be gone quicker than you can say Hodgson.

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WPG

Raymond

Ballard

Schneider

1st

VAN

Ladd

Byfuglien

Ladd's got two Cups. That cannot be a nuisance. Byfuglien is one of those Stanley Cup performers too. If the Canucks could somehow get both while keeping most of the team intact, those two players are the type of players that would put Vancouver over the top.

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Schneider is certainly easier to move than Luongo. A 26 y/o starter making 4m with an outstanding record and huge potential, vs. a 34 y/o Luongo who is making 6.7m but only has 5.3m on the books for the next 8 years.

Yes, Luongo is playing outstanding, but you can't change the fact that poor teams that are in need of his services can't afford what we're asking in a trade, and can't afford his contract. I think the longer we wait on a Luongo deal the greater decline of value. That being said, I think he is worth more to us than anything we could get back in a Luongo deal. As another poster pointed out, Cannata and Lack coming up will make nice future NHLers, so the term and length of Cory's career becomes less of a concern for this market. 5 years more of Luongo, and who's to say we don't have another Cory in Cannata?

So keep them both for this year, have Schneider start in the playoffs, and see how far that takes us. If we win it all, then it's pretty much guaranteed that one of them will be dealt at the draft, hopefully to a bottom feeder for a high 1st. MG will have more options at the end of the season anyway, and if we do actually get a cup, then the return on either becomes less of a concern.

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WPG

Raymond

Ballard

Schneider

1st

VAN

Ladd

Byfuglien

Ladd's got two Cups. That cannot be a nuisance. Byfuglien is one of those Stanley Cup performers too. If the Canucks could somehow get both while keeping most of the team intact, those two players are the type of players that would put Vancouver over the top.

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WPG

Raymond

Ballard

Schneider

1st

VAN

Ladd

Byfuglien

Ladd's got two Cups. That cannot be a nuisance. Byfuglien is one of those Stanley Cup performers too. If the Canucks could somehow get both while keeping most of the team intact, those two players are the type of players that would put Vancouver over the top.

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Why are we trading Schneider now? I don't understand Canuck fans.

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