Heretic Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Luongo is now leading the league in GAA. I say we keep Luongo and trade Schneider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Luongo is now leading the league in GAA. I say we keep Luongo and trade Schneider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Ok, so I admit that Im on board with keeping Luongo. Being that this team is not getting younger, Im willing to sacrifice the younger and cheaper goaltender without the NTC, for a likley larger ransom than we'd get for LUi (Whos still the better goalie imo), and make a strong push for the cup for the next year or 2 (likley the last of the Sedins most productive years). But the most rational longer term thinking, and best business plan would be to keep Cory, as it would likley help the Canucks to remain strong at that position for longer than Luongo could sustain, which would help to remain competitive eoungh to keep fans heavily interested. If the Nux traded Cory, won the Cup with Lui, and then faded, Im betting that long term business projections would be less than it would if they came up short, but remained relevant. Its the combination of the two that Gillis is looking for.... How do we make this team a winner for the now, and remain a top club? THats why the price tag on Luongo is sky high. A peice needs to come back that improves the clubs chance of winning now and later. The best possible outcome.... We keep both for the season, Canucks win the Cup while riding Luongo (who becomes a Vezina finalist adn Conn Smythe candidate), we trade him at the draft for a slew of picks and prospects. A good sign in this scenario (for those hoping for a mid-season trade) is that the Panthers are now sreiously looking at what they really have in Markstrom. Is he ready to step into a #1 position? Theyre done with Theodore and Clemmenson, and if they are un-satisfied with what they see in Markstrom, Im betting they come closer to Gillis' asking price, and possibly then explore trading Markstrom to fill what possible hole is left from aquiring Luongo.... And theres no question that thered be interest in Markstrom... especially like a team such as Edmonton, who may be willing to part with a young stud or 2. hmmmm.... proposal time At the deadline: To Edmonton: Markstrom Weiss To Folrida: Paajarvi Gagner 1st round pick At the draft: To Florida: Luongo To Vancouver: Bjugstad 1st round pick (Edmonton) or 1st round pick (Florida) whichever is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Potvin Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Rather trade Schneider than Luongo and see him go to either Washington or Winnipeg. I know Winnipeg has pavelec but don't think he is as good as people think he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 id imagine gillis has some solid deals on the table for cory but is holding out to see if Lu's recent play and attitude heats up the talks for him closer to the deadline. Id only trade cory if its for a bluechip youngster. If not then i think were better off going forward with the younger goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Potvin Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I think Forsberg would look good in a canucks jersey along with pieces from both sides as well or Bogo from the jets alongs with pieces on both sides there too maybe try and make some kinda deal for Ladd in the same deal just some ideas I think Schneider would love to play in Winnipeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 id imagine gillis has some solid deals on the table for cory but is holding out to see if Lu's recent play and attitude heats up the talks for him closer to the deadline. Id only trade cory if its for a bluechip youngster. If not then i think were better off going forward with the younger goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 WPG Raymond Ballard Schneider 1st VAN Ladd Byfuglien Ladd's got two Cups. That cannot be a nuisance. Byfuglien is one of those Stanley Cup performers too. If the Canucks could somehow get both while keeping most of the team intact, those two players are the type of players that would put Vancouver over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Franson is the same player he's been for the last few years - he's just being utilized this yr like he was in Nashville. That's why he 'appears' successful. He's a guy with a good shot, a PP guy, but eats weak minutes. He's always played incredibly sheltered minutes, low even strength TOI, high PP mins, low SH mins, and against really weak competition. Carlyle know how to use him, Wilson didn't. In AV's system, no way he replaces any d-man in the Canucks top 6, unless they're injured. He's not the type of d-man AV covets. If AV has to 'design' ice time for a defenseman to be successful, he'll be gone quicker than you can say Hodgson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 WPG Raymond Ballard Schneider 1st VAN Ladd Byfuglien Ladd's got two Cups. That cannot be a nuisance. Byfuglien is one of those Stanley Cup performers too. If the Canucks could somehow get both while keeping most of the team intact, those two players are the type of players that would put Vancouver over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Why are we trading Schneider now? I don't understand Canuck fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Schneider is certainly easier to move than Luongo. A 26 y/o starter making 4m with an outstanding record and huge potential, vs. a 34 y/o Luongo who is making 6.7m but only has 5.3m on the books for the next 8 years. Yes, Luongo is playing outstanding, but you can't change the fact that poor teams that are in need of his services can't afford what we're asking in a trade, and can't afford his contract. I think the longer we wait on a Luongo deal the greater decline of value. That being said, I think he is worth more to us than anything we could get back in a Luongo deal. As another poster pointed out, Cannata and Lack coming up will make nice future NHLers, so the term and length of Cory's career becomes less of a concern for this market. 5 years more of Luongo, and who's to say we don't have another Cory in Cannata? So keep them both for this year, have Schneider start in the playoffs, and see how far that takes us. If we win it all, then it's pretty much guaranteed that one of them will be dealt at the draft, hopefully to a bottom feeder for a high 1st. MG will have more options at the end of the season anyway, and if we do actually get a cup, then the return on either becomes less of a concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckin Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Why are we trading Schneider now? I don't understand Canuck fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieCrumbs Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 This is hilarious to read through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 WPG Raymond Ballard Schneider 1st VAN Ladd Byfuglien Ladd's got two Cups. That cannot be a nuisance. Byfuglien is one of those Stanley Cup performers too. If the Canucks could somehow get both while keeping most of the team intact, those two players are the type of players that would put Vancouver over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLahey Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 WPG Raymond Ballard Schneider 1st VAN Ladd Byfuglien Ladd's got two Cups. That cannot be a nuisance. Byfuglien is one of those Stanley Cup performers too. If the Canucks could somehow get both while keeping most of the team intact, those two players are the type of players that would put Vancouver over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Byfuglien is a god in the peg, just to let you guys know. He will not be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockNroLLa. Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Lu for Brouwer and a 1st. Extend Raymond, trade him and a 2nd for Ott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Why are we trading Schneider now? I don't understand Canuck fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kessing Booth line Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 to SJ- Luongo + Raymond to Van- Marleau + Demers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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