Heretic Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Yeah well its not that simple. We were up 3-2 even though Lou, amongst others, turned in bad games in Boston. Realistically, we started the series with Kesler playing on crutches, Samuelsson gone and Manny still out. By game 6, we were also missing Rome, Hamhuis, Raymond, the Twins playing hurt, Salo unable to hold his stick, who am I missing? Some teams are cup teams because they are great teams, and some (lets call them nearly great) need a superstar to step forward, ala Crosby, Roy, Dryden... Well our team was too broken down to expect the goals you speak of. To my mind, if we were to win, Lou had to steal us a game. Do you reckon I'm holding him to a higher standard hoping that would happen? In my mind; doing so was fair. He held us ransom for virtually the largest goalie contract in history. On day dot; Luongo was the highest paid player in the world at $10 mill. If there was a guy it was fair to expect to be our superstar, it was Lou! But Lou was also part of the problem, yeah scoring and other bits dried up as our match ups crumbled with injuries. In game 4 if I recall, after a forward coughed the puck, and Bieksa, then Salo both let Marchand walk around them, he flopped and Marchand scored a heartbreaking dagger. And you could see the bench drop their heads. Lou was a sieve, as much as the team around him, same in game 6 after not having his tires pumped. You could tell he was mentally out of it, and the 4 goals he let in in game 7 gave no one any hope that fighting through it would get anywhere. The team lost, but as the highest paid player in the world, I would like to think Lou could have stole us a game in Boston... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 He stole game 1 and game 5 for us. We scored a whopping 8 goals in 7 games - that was the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 You missed the point. With Kess injured, and Samuelsson, Manny and Raymond out > all of our secondary scoring was essentially gone. As were line ups where people played their standard defensive roles. the Twins/Burr are not going to score a lot of goals stuck ,ostly taking defensive draws in our end against Boston's top line. Then double shift against a top defensive line when we did score an offensive zone draw. So if we were not going to score goals, our defense and goalie were going to have to steal games for us. Worse, if we needed our defence and goal tending to steal games for us, and our best defender Hamhuis was out; Well lets say we were in serious trouble. It did not help missing Rome and having Erhoff and Salo playing hurt. We literally NEEDED Lou to steal one of the last two games. I guess i hoped he would be a superstar and feel gilted? He stole game 1 and game 5 for us. We scored a whopping 8 goals in 7 games - that was the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 No, because Kesler, as good as he is; is not what Boston needs. And Schneider, as good as he is is not what Boston needs most.either. So why would they mortgage such important players for this trade. And funny thing, if we scored Lucic and Seguin but lost Kesler; who would play centre for us? The trade also tears us apart. Its not a good structure for a trade because the pieces don't make sense. Lol I heard about Lucic showing up for camp out of shape. Must be getting close now though? He snapped a nice goal, and looked alrite to me when I watched them play Buffalo. WHy? Because Lucic isn't going to age like a fine wine. I don't see the Bruins much but he looks bigger and slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Florida is 5 points out of the lead in their division, and five points from the 8th spot, also a team in their division. Washington is 6 back. These teams are nowhere near about to pack it in, decide to tank, or mail in their seasons. 5 or 6 points can be made up in a 10 game stretch, particularly when they're chasing mediocre hockey teams. Florida is finally getting healthy after missing Versteeg, Gudbranson, Goc, Jovanovski, Upshall... Three of the Canucks most rumoured trade partners have also given up the most goals in the NHL - I don't see this as the point at which it is assumed the Canucks don't cut a deal this season... Those fanbases all watched playoff games last season... If anything, things have been working out favourably for MG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 So you dont entertain the other aspects of a discussion and get tunnel vision? To answer you question,I research any thing I dont grasp and come to my own conclusions. Always room for gray,just not as rigid in my thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Before the season probably not but after public berating by his coach you got to think his value has slipped. His 1 goal in 14 games doesn't help Florida trying to really sell this guy either. What do you think it will take? prospect + pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 No, because Kesler, as good as he is; is not what Boston needs. And Schneider, as good as he is is not what Boston needs most.either. So why would they mortgage such important players for this trade. And funny thing, if we scored Lucic and Seguin but lost Kesler; who would play centre for us? The trade also tears us apart. Its not a good structure for a trade because the pieces don't make sense. Lol I heard about Lucic showing up for camp out of shape. Must be getting close now though? He snapped a nice goal, and looked alrite to me when I watched them play Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I just get that feeling like somethings going to happen. Tallons comments suggest 'immediate' issues - something which appears Markstrom wasn't helping them with as they sent him down. If they were bringing him up to develop him, why send him down after only 2 games? It's a really odd situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 You dont need speed dial to know the obvious...make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertuzziJr 2.0 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 So... How would he help the Canucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 We need depth at center. As much as I like Schroeder we probably need during this playoff run a bigger more experienced center. He's struggling now but you don't have to look back that far to see him as a productive player. With a new team in a new city I think he will be just what the canucks need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertuzziJr 2.0 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Of course his contract situation is a worry but if the price is reasonable than why not right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 We need depth at center. As much as I like Schroeder we probably need during this playoff run a bigger more experienced center. He's struggling now but you don't have to look back that far to see him as a productive player. With a new team in a new city I think he will be just what the canucks need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Well, the Leafs fans were watching other teams in the playoffs, but we get your point. You might have been alluding to Tampa or Philly, but the Leafs are funnier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xur Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 FLA Raymond Schneider 1st VAN Weiss Bjudgstad 1st BOOTH - WEISS - KESLER Let's face it. Florida doesn't want Luongo. They would JUMP on Schneider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockNroLLa. Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 The "obvious" has been fabricated by CDC posters. CDC posters reading CDC posts, writing CDC posts for CDC posters to read and write CDC posts for CDC posters to read and write CDC posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I might be of the minority here, but Weiss would help a lot. Personally, I think we need to drop Kesler into the 3rd line centre position as the team's checking centre, but also able to put up good offensive numbers. Weiss fills in the 2nd line centre position. What would it take to get him? Not sure, but his value is definitely at the lowest point that its been in years. Buy low.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 FLA Raymond Schneider 1st VAN Weiss Bjudgstad 1st BOOTH - WEISS - KESLER Let's face it. Florida doesn't want Luongo. They would JUMP on Schneider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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