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#961 apollo

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 11:26 AM

And why would you rather have the Tampa deal exactly? Ryan Johansen is loaded with potential, Steve Mason is young enough to turn around his developement and could still be a number 1 in the future, plus a first round pick in a deep draft is always good and gives you more options to make a deal at the draft.

Hedman is good, on the verge of really good, but the other trade benefits the Canucks better for the future.

Jensen Johansen Kassian :)

Edit: I'm speaking of the return only in the proposal, not what pieces the Canucks are giving up.


Agreed, but I think that way we free up ballards salary and I prefer to keep booth. Its too early to give up on him

You're definitely right that the return on the cbj is better, I just like the cost of the tbay deal better. If either trade was to happen I would be ecstatic
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 11:39 AM

In any case, lets get a legitimate 2C. That way Booth and Kesler see an increase in production. It is not fair to call Booth a bust when he's no-pass-Kesler's wing. I want to see what he can do if he gets passes.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 11:47 AM

IMHO, that Clb deal is not good value.

I agree. Johansen is good, but Mason isn't great value at $2.9M. If we could sign him for less, great, but having to qualify him at just above that amount (his salary this year is $3.2M) is a hindrance for next year's cap. Prospal isn't bad but is a pending UFA, and only a late first? That's all for one of our prospects who's showing he can play in the NHL and a top young goalie in Schneider. Booth is no slouch either and Columbus can work around cost, then we add a 3rd. Not good.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 11:51 AM

In any case, lets get a legitimate 2C. That way Booth and Kesler see an increase in production. It is not fair to call Booth a bust when he's no-pass-Kesler's wing. I want to see what he can do if he gets passes.


You've got a great point there. Booth could really excel with a Centre that passes. Kesler should excel on the wing. You sold me... lets get that 2 line centre.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 12:04 PM

No KoES? Is he finally banned?


I think so (but there are some new posters that sound a lot like him).

Re topic: what do you think about:

Luongo + Schroeder + Suave + 2nd round pick
For
Gudbranson + Goc + Upshall + 1st round pick
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 12:07 PM

I think so (but there are some new posters that sound a lot like him).

Re topic: what do you think about:

Luongo + Schroeder + Suave + 2nd round pick
For
Gudbranson + Goc + Upshall + 1st round pick


I would do that deal.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 12:32 PM

I think so (but there are some new posters that sound a lot like him).

Re topic: what do you think about:

Luongo + Schroeder + Suave + 2nd round pick
For
Gudbranson + Goc + Upshall + 1st round pick


I like the deal, but I have one thing I'd counter/amend.

Either I'd substitute Drew Shore for the 1st coming back our way, substitute out Schroeder, or remove both Schroeder and their 1st.

I don't see Florida having a great deal of interest in a C/Schroeder considering even without Goc, they'd have Weiss, Huberdeau, Shore, Matthias, Mueller, Santorelli, Howden, Bjugstad, Grimaldi, Rau... and from our side, unless we bring back a pair of centers, I wouldn't want to move Schroeder.
Aside from that, I really like that deal.
Or your deal could be left as is if Florida wanted Schroeder - it would still facilitate a deal for one of our left side D - and the Canucks could go out and acquire another depth C in a separate deal if they saw fit.

Edited by oldnews, 07 March 2013 - 12:37 PM.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 12:42 PM

I like the deal, but I have one thing I'd counter/amend.

Either I'd substitute Drew Shore for the 1st coming back our way, substitute out Schroeder, or remove both Schroeder and their 1st.

I don't see Florida having a great deal of interest in a C/Schroeder considering even without Goc, they'd have Weiss, Huberdeau, Shore, Matthias, Mueller, Santorelli, Howden, Bjugstad, Grimaldi, Rau... and from our side, unless we bring back a pair of centers, I wouldn't want to move Schroeder.
Aside from that, I really like that deal.
Or your deal could be left as is if Florida wanted Schroeder - it would still facilitate a deal for one of our left side D - and the Canucks could go out and acquire another depth C in a separate deal if they saw fit.


They probably wouldn't but I'd drive him to the airport myself for Florida's probable lottery pick. If that's a top 10 it's a win. If it's a top 5 it's a slam dunk. Another centre could be grabbed elsewhere.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 01:17 PM

They probably wouldn't but I'd drive him to the airport myself for Florida's probable lottery pick. If that's a top 10 it's a win. If it's a top 5 it's a slam dunk. Another centre could be grabbed elsewhere.


The Panthers have so many guys out of the lineup though, and Markstrom is playing well with Theodore out. They've lost Weiss for the season - I'm not sure they could give up another veteran C off their roster - and doubt they'd be willing to move their first under the circumstances... but who knows. Maybe they can still catch the Leafs haha.

Luo, Ballard, Connauton, 3rd.

Hamonic, Cizikas, Brock Nelson, Nabokov.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 01:30 PM

I would do that deal.


I think MG would be crazy to get Upshall. Been a cancer in almost every locker room he's been in
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 01:35 PM

I would do that deal.


Aaaaand... Florida says no.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 01:38 PM

I think MG would be crazy to get Upshall. Been a cancer in almost every locker room he's been in


We have him for a year and buy him out or repackage him for something else.

Aaaaand... Florida says no.


No one asked Florida in this thread.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 01:39 PM

I think MG would be crazy to get Upshall. Been a cancer in almost every locker room he's been in


Yeah, I agree but I put him in the deal to help pry Gudbranson out of there; apparently their GM wanted us to take salary back.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 01:45 PM

Aaaaand... Florida says no.


WADR, a lot more reasonable than the proposals you come up with.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:49 PM

I think so (but there are some new posters that sound a lot like him).

Re topic: what do you think about:

Luongo + Schroeder + Suave + 2nd round pick
For
Gudbranson + Goc + Upshall + 1st round pick


I don't think with where florida sits in the standings they would trade their first, not aleast until the draft and the know where that pick is. If its not a top 5 pick them maybe they'd think about it
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 04:04 PM

I don't think with where florida sits in the standings they would trade their first, not aleast until the draft and the know where that pick is. If its not a top 5 pick them maybe they'd think about it


I think so too. Tallon knows that's where you get your Toews and Kane's. If there is a deal there with that pick I think gillis should try like hell to get it done though.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 04:22 PM

I feel like this is all of a sudden sounding like a race of which goalie traded first. Will it be Schneider or Luongo? My money is still on Luongo although is a GM gives Gillis a beauty of a deal, I think he will have to trade Schneids.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:00 PM

MG should set the price for both goaltenders if dealing with Florida.

Price for CS: Huberdeau or Gudbranson in the deal.
Price for Luo: Bjugstad or Petrovic +
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:07 PM

"@HeadtotheNet: Lebrun on the Team radio saying he senses a strong offer for #Canucks' Schneider will come over next few weeks."

Gotta be TB or CLB. Both Eastern teams to (CLB joining East).
I'd rather keep Corey but if the value is very high for him then I can understand why.

Schneid, Booth, Shroeder, 3rd
For
Johansen, Mason, Prospal, late 1st

Or

Schneid, Ballard, 2nd
For
Hedman, Garon


I agree with theminister and oldnews.

That CBJ deal doesn't look too good.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:19 PM

In any case, lets get a legitimate 2C. That way Booth and Kesler see an increase in production. It is not fair to call Booth a bust when he's no-pass-Kesler's wing. I want to see what he can do if he gets passes.


I would like to see Booth get a legit shot playing with the twins, not a game or 2. Like 10-15 minimum it takes time to get chemistry if they cant show something in that time frame regardless of where we are in the year you know you can put burrows back there and be fine.

I would try Booth with the Sedins if I was the coach. he got 30 goals with Weiss, theres a chance he could hit 40+ with the twins
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:24 PM

Alright we are desperate and need to make a move, might aswell deal Luongo now and just get rid of this whole situation. Then move forward with the pieces we get.


Vancouver Canucks
Marcel Goc
Alex Petrovic
Scottie Upshall
1st Round Pick (2014)
2nd Round Pick (2013)

Florida Panthers
Roberto Luongo
Andrew Ebbett
Anton Rodin
3rd Round Pick (2013)

Edited by Smashian Kassian, 07 March 2013 - 08:30 PM.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:27 PM

Alright we are desperate and need to make a move, might aswell deal Luongo now and just get rid of this whole situation. Then move forward with the pieces we get.


Vancouver Canucks
Marcel Goc
Alex Petrovic
Scottie Upshall
1st Round Pick
4th Round Pick

Florida Panthers
Roberto Luongo
Andrew Ebbett
Kellan Tochkin


you really think we're getting likely the first overall for Lou

dude..
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:28 PM

you really think we're getting likely the first overall for Lou

dude..


It won't be 1st overall.

Or else it could be 2014.

Edit: Modified the deal.

Edited by Smashian Kassian, 07 March 2013 - 08:30 PM.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:34 PM

Alright we are desperate and need to make a move, might aswell deal Luongo now and just get rid of this whole situation. Then move forward with the pieces we get.


Vancouver Canucks
Marcel Goc
Alex Petrovic
Scottie Upshall
1st Round Pick (2014)
2nd Round Pick (2013)

Florida Panthers
Roberto Luongo
Andrew Ebbett
Anton Rodin
3rd Round Pick (2013)


We would be lucky to get Florida's 1st for Luongo at this point... there is no market for goalies right now... Not one team is desperate for a goalie... MG has waited too long...dropped the ball.... Plus... Florida is not interested... they are going with Jacob Markstrom... he is the face of the future for the Panthers... check out the Panthers website.

Edited by Claiborne55, 07 March 2013 - 08:35 PM.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:06 PM

Alright we are desperate and need to make a move, might aswell deal Luongo now and just get rid of this whole situation. Then move forward with the pieces we get.


Vancouver Canucks
Marcel Goc
Alex Petrovic
Scottie Upshall
1st Round Pick (2014)
2nd Round Pick (2013)

Florida Panthers
Roberto Luongo
Andrew Ebbett
Anton Rodin
3rd Round Pick (2013)


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#986 Smashian Kassian

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:09 PM

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#987 Canucks_Hockey_101

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:09 PM

Source?


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:12 PM

Inaction.


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:12 PM

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Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:17 PM

Alright revised proposal.

Vancouver Canucks
Marcel Goc
Alex Petrovic
Scottie Upshall
2nd Round Pick (2013)

Florida Panthers
Roberto Luongo
Andrew Ebbett
Kellan Tochkin


Florida gets Luongo at a great price, which includes dumping a terrible contract of there own. Nothing major is leaving them futurewise or currently.

We get rid of the contract & move on and add a piece that helps now aswell as decent future pieces. We take on a bad contract but Upshall could help in the playoffs in a 4th line role then be bought-out in the summer.

Could add a tad more to our side, but this is a great deal for Florida. Lets just move on with this situation.
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