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#181 debluvscanucks

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:41 AM

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Uhh... Yes they can actually. Divers/whiners/wimps = Sedins, Kesler, Burrows, Luongo, Lapierre. Cheapshot artists/goons = Hansen, Bieksa, Weise, Hamhuis. Come to think of it, several of these guys could be put in both categories. So basically your argument has no merit whatsoever and is based upon nothing other than pathological homer bias.

Also, you didn't answer the question. What would Hossa have to gain by sitting out the third period of a close game aginst the Hawks arch rivals if he was not injured? do you honestly believe that the Hawks best player would fake an injury and give the Canucks a major advantage in the game - when he was a goal away from a hattrick no less - just for the possibility of getting one of the Canucks' bottom 6 grinders suspended for one game against another team in February?

I pose the same question to you as the previous poster. Why would a marquee superstar like Hossa fake an injury to get a dime a dozen scrub like Hansen suspended for one game in February? the Canucks very nearly came back to win thanks to Hossa's absence. Do you think Hossa and the Hawks would have considered squandering a victory against their arch rivals a reasonable trade off for helping Dallas gain a minor advantage in the Canucks' next game?

Also, have you ever been any sort of athlete or had a concussion? I'm guessing no and no. Concussions are a complex medical condition which are still very much a mystery. There are no concrete "rules" about what can or cannot cause symptoms to reoccur or fade. Hossa felt shaky after Hansen drove his forearm/elbow into the back of his head, so the Hawks medical staff had him sit out the rest of the game as so not to risk re-aggravating his concussion any further. Simple as that.

I realize that Canucks fans hate the Hawks and are very bitter about losing to them, but that does not mean there is a leaguewide conspiracy against the Canucks or that the Hawks had to have broken the rules somehow. Sometimes you just get beat.

Also out of curiosity, how did you get to be a mod on this site? serious question.


Seriously? I got to be a mod by contributing to the site in a way that follows the rules and guidelines - you should try it sometime.

Here, I'll fill you in a bit about my history, since you've asked - I was a BCRPA fitness instructor prior to sustaining a serious back injury slalom water skiing. In that certification, I had to complete fairly extensive medical training and cpr. Plus, I've had a serious concussion in the past.

And I normally wouldn't do this "in thread" like this, however, when you slam our team like you have, I feel that I owe it to my fellow members to let them know you won't be doing so any longer.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:02 AM

Cheapshot artists/goons = Hamhuis


is where I stopped reading. lost all credibility when you think Hamhuis is a cheapshot artist/ goon. let me guess you thought Salo was a cheapshot artist/goon when he played here? because both of those guys wouldn't hurt a fly
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:04 AM

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Why are there blackhawk fans on this board ? I don't have an account at any other nhl message board....Seems kinda stupid.


They are currently on hiatus - some will be returning later (on a short leash), some others will not be.

WITH THAT: a note to fans visiting from other sites...we welcome you here and enjoy a change in perspective and opinion. However, when you become embroiled in argument with fans of the Canucks, keep in mind that this site is for them (us), first and foremost and because of that, opinions favouring the Canucks will prevail. I wouldn't expect anything less on another teams' site (such as the Blackhawks), which is why I don't go there. If you can't keep it in check and feel the need to force your opinion here, we will be helping in that.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:34 AM

and the Academy Award goes to......

(WHL, if you don't see any disparity in how certain teams garner more support from the league than others, then you're not watching closely enough)



I want you to answer me this:What teams in particular and in what cases have garnered more support from the league on a consistant basis? Also, what does the NHL have to gain by giving teams such as the Canucks the shaft?

Edited by red&white, 24 February 2013 - 02:17 PM.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:35 AM

Why are there blackhawk fans on this board ? I don't have an account at any other nhl message board....Seems kinda stupid.

You don't have to have an individual account for each message board. If the team's NHL affiliated site has a forum, you can sign in with the ID you use here. I've done so myself to ask fans of another team for their perspective or talk about games against them.

For instance, in the 2011 playoff run, the Sharks fans had a good photoshop thread going which I and others from here participated in. More recently, I was over on the Caps boards talking with some of their fans about Marcus Johanssen and some of their other prospects.

I don't have a problem with Hawks fans over here, so long as they realize they're in the minority and are respectful as a result. Some other teams have a minimal online presence for fans, and ours is much larger by comparison so we do get some traffic that way too.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:18 AM

Maybe Hossa is a distant relative to Wolverine and so he heals really quick and so he only needs one day to recover from a concussion.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:19 AM

I for one am flattered Hawks fans think so much of our team they spend so much time at the forum for supporting them. Can't say I share the same high opinion of their team.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 01:22 PM

His concussion was SO bad he was practicing two days later... :rolleyes:


LOL.. slow down and read my post again.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:10 PM

The Marian Hossa Hat-Trick: 2 goals 1 faked concussion.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:47 PM

17:24 TOI the very next game. Obviously he was hurting bad.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:59 PM

Can any of you tell me what Hossa and the Hawks would have to gain by having their best player fake an injury - allowing the Canucks to come back and tie the game - just for the chance of getting one of your bottom 6 bums suspended for 1 game in February against Dallas....

Anyone at all......


I don't know, perhaps you can tell us what Hossa was thinking when he lay face down and motionless on the ice after not receiving a concussion?
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:22 PM

I'm surprised that this thread has lingered on for so long, but then again seeing as it is about a Blackhawk/Canuck issue maybe not. After reading through all of the posts ( painful to do ) what I can surmise from the negative posts from Canuck fans ( once I remove the obvious reactionary posts ) is that their concern is that Hansen now has a record which will effect him going forward.
Though this is true I really don't think it is as big a deal as for example another player who has received a 3 or 5 game suspension.
1 game is the minimum and if graded against all the other players in the NHL who have had suspensions Hansen would be at the very bottom of the list. Hansen is the only Canuck with a record now am I right? And it is only a 1 game suspension. This would put the Canucks at the bottom of the naughty list league wide regarding having players with records would it not?
So what is there to complain about ... really ... in the scheme of things the Canucks are doing pretty much alright. As some of your own fans have mentioned on this thread the whining and complaining is at times over the top. Having had lived in Vancouver for 20 plus years my 2c : the constant lack of sun during the winter months in lovely Vancouver does have an effect on the collective psyche of the people. Makes them a little more grumpy .. that's all. So go out and buy one of those lights and read a nice novel beside it for an hour every day and enjoy!


The big deal about Hansen having a record is the fact that he is a CLEAN player and does not deserve to have a record. Also do you honestly think if the hockey gods forbid something else happens and Hansen is involved that they won't take into consideration that he now has a record? It won't matter that it was only a one game suspension a record is a record and Hansen did not deserve this!
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:24 PM

For the first time ever. ............ GO OILERS. DOWN WITHER THE HAWKS!
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:24 PM

For the first time ever. ............ GO OILERS. DOWN WITH THE HAWKS!

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:33 PM

Alright then!

Believe it or not, it is still possible to get shaken up when someone rams their elbow into the back of your head even if it doesn't cause lasting concussion symptoms.

Still waiting for an answer to the question BTW.


Hansen did NOT ram his elbow into the back of Hossa's head, He hit him by ACCIDENT when he was going for the puck. Stop Trying to act like Hansen is this major dirty player when he is not.

I understand perhaps the fear that Hossa felt (I actually think he is a decent player) when he was hit again but come on if he is healthy enough to skate the next day especially giving his history he should have manned up and admitted that he was okay, not waiting till AFTER Hansen was suspended.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

it's funny to see all these accusations from the same people who were blasting "Dr. Recchi" a while back. be consistent, at least.

hossa got his bell rung, without getting a concussion, and was able to return to normal in the days following the hit. how is that so unbelievable? he's down for about ten seconds or less before the trainer is out there, and the first thing the trainer probably says is 'don't move', which is the prudent thing to do (as i'm sure any cpr/athletic training certified person around here can attest to). he stayed out of the rest of the game, which is also the smart thing to do considering his history. the coach said he seemed to be ok after the game (if they wanted to milk a suspension, why would he ever say that?).

i just don't see the logic behind him faking it.

also, even if a short suspension was unwarranted (which by the way the whole world disagrees with) it's not like Hansen's 'repeat offender' record is now going to plague the rest of his career haha, it's not that bad.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:03 PM

Alright then!

Believe it or not, it is still possible to get shaken up when someone rams their elbow into the back of your head even if it doesn't cause lasting concussion symptoms.

Still waiting for an answer to the question BTW.


Perhaps the training staff suggested he stay out of the game to prevent him from being labelled an obvious diver for pretending to be unconscious? Instead he plays the next game an is labelled a probable diver. It doesn't surprise me though. Integrity has never been one of Hossa's admirable characteristics.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:09 PM

it's funny to see all these accusations from the same people who were blasting "Dr. Recchi" a while back. be consistent, at least.

hossa got his bell rung, without getting a concussion, and was able to return to normal in the days following the hit. how is that so unbelievable? he's down for about ten seconds or less before the trainer is out there, and the first thing the trainer probably says is 'don't move', which is the prudent thing to do (as i'm sure any cpr/athletic training certified person around here can attest to). he stayed out of the rest of the game, which is also the smart thing to do considering his history. the coach said he seemed to be ok after the game (if they wanted to milk a suspension, why would he ever say that?).

i just don't see the logic behind him faking it.

also, even if a short suspension was unwarranted (which by the way the whole world disagrees with) it's not like Hansen's 'repeat offender' record is now going to plague the rest of his career haha, it's not that bad.


It is unbelieveable because that it not the normal protocol for someone with concussion issues coming off of a major concussion. It has been said ad nauseum in this thread. If a glancing forearm caused him to lay unresponsive on the ice for the amount of time he did there is no way he should be playing the game in his condition. There is no other conclusion than he was faking it.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:48 PM

Aaaaannnndddd that is the incomprehensibly ridiculous and hilarious and sad and cringe inducing ramblings of the typical delusional Canucks homer that I was waiting for. I've heard it countless times, yet it never ceases to amaze me.

No one has labeled Hossa a diver other than that sorry group of individuals whom no one takes seriously in the slightest.

It's all right there in the video, Hansen leans and reaches over Hossa's shoulder and forces his elbow into his head, there is absolutely no way you can watch the video and see anything else, yet you still somehow find ways to deny the purest and most undeniable form of proof.





What the hell is the problem up there in Vancouver... no other fanbases have such a large percentage of incomprehensibly delusional homers who genuinely believe their team can do no wrong and that any call by a referee or decision by the league that does not favor their team means there is a conspiracy. Not to even mention the riots. Is it something in the water? or perhaps the depressing grey skies and rain all winter long? did a nuclear power plant blow up in the vicinity some time in the past 30-40 years?

God help you all.


:lol: someones mad! And obviously doesn't know too many Bruins fans.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:49 PM

Aaaaannnndddd that is the incomprehensibly ridiculous and hilarious and sad and cringe inducing ramblings of the typical delusional Canucks homer that I was waiting for. I've heard it countless times, yet it never ceases to amaze me.

No one has labeled Hossa a diver other than that sorry group of individuals whom no one takes seriously in the slightest.

It's all right there in the video, Hansen leans and reaches over Hossa's shoulder and forces his elbow into his head, there is absolutely no way you can watch the video and see anything else, yet you still somehow find ways to deny the purest and most undeniable form of proof.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNxZaYKD7z4

What the hell is the problem up there in Vancouver... no other fanbases have such a large percentage of incomprehensibly delusional homers who genuinely believe their team can do no wrong and that any call by a referee or decision by the league that does not favor their team means there is a conspiracy. Not to even mention the riots. Is it something in the water? or perhaps the depressing grey skies and rain all winter long? did a nuclear power plant blow up in the vicinity some time in the past 30-40 years?

God help you all.




GOD YOUR DENSE.



DO YOU NOT REALIZE YOU ARE ON A CANUCKS MESSAGE BOARD!!!!???!!!!!

DO YOU REALLY EXPECT THEM TO TAKE THE SIDE OF THE CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS?

GOD HELP YOU.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:51 PM

GOD YOUR DENSE.



DO YOU NOT REALIZE YOU ARE ON A CANUCKS MESSAGE BOARD!!!!???!!!!!

DO YOU REALLY EXPECT THEM TO TAKE THE SIDE OF THE CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS?

GOD HELP YOU.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:03 PM

Aaaaannnndddd that is the incomprehensibly ridiculous and hilarious and sad and cringe inducing ramblings of the typical delusional Canucks homer that I was waiting for. I've heard it countless times, yet it never ceases to amaze me.

No one has labeled Hossa a diver other than that sorry group of individuals whom no one takes seriously in the slightest.

It's all right there in the video, Hansen leans and reaches over Hossa's shoulder and forces his elbow into his head, there is absolutely no way you can watch the video and see anything else, yet you still somehow find ways to deny the purest and most undeniable form of proof.





What the hell is the problem up there in Vancouver... no other fanbases have such a large percentage of incomprehensibly delusional homers who genuinely believe their team can do no wrong and that any call by a referee or decision by the league that does not favor their team means there is a conspiracy. Not to even mention the riots. Is it something in the water? or perhaps the depressing grey skies and rain all winter long? did a nuclear power plant blow up in the vicinity some time in the past 30-40 years?

God help you all.


Don't forget all of the pundits who have suggested it.

There is no god.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:06 PM

I've seen Calgary's forums, and Boston's, and Montreal's, and Philly's, and Detroit's. Nothing so much as slightly compares to CDC. I'm not mad, just genuinely baffled. There are reasons why YOU GUYS are the most hated fans in the league and not those of any other team. And before you go there, it's not the President's trophies. Trust me.


And there's reasons why most of us don't give a crap what you guys think. But you keep crying like lil babies...mean old canucks fans! :(
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:07 PM

I've seen Calgary's forums, and Boston's, and Montreal's, and Philly's, and Detroit's. Nothing so much as slightly compares to CDC. I'm not mad, just genuinely baffled. There are reasons why YOU GUYS are the most hated fans in the league and not those of any other team. And before you go there, it's not the President's trophies. Trust me.



So why are you here, to stroke your ego? Why are you even wasting your time typing down your words? Your opinion means the same as a drop of water in the ocean to us. Since we're such horrible fans why even bother communicating with us?Perhaps you should go back to your board and regale them with tales of our stupidity.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:12 PM

Aaaaannnndddd that is the incomprehensibly ridiculous and hilarious and sad and cringe inducing ramblings of the typical delusional Canucks homer that I was waiting for. I've heard it countless times, yet it never ceases to amaze me.

No one has labeled Hossa a diver other than that sorry group of individuals whom no one takes seriously in the slightest.

It's all right there in the video, Hansen leans and reaches over Hossa's shoulder and forces his elbow into his head, there is absolutely no way you can watch the video and see anything else, yet you still somehow find ways to deny the purest and most undeniable form of proof.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNxZaYKD7z4

What the hell is the problem up there in Vancouver... no other fanbases have such a large percentage of incomprehensibly delusional homers who genuinely believe their team can do no wrong and that any call by a referee or decision by the league that does not favor their team means there is a conspiracy. Not to even mention the riots. Is it something in the water? or perhaps the depressing grey skies and rain all winter long? did a nuclear power plant blow up in the vicinity some time in the past 30-40 years?

God help you all.


I fail to see how the 'riots' had anything at all to do with the 'vicious' attack Hansen threw against Hossa? Perhaps that just is my 'delusional' Canuck love making it hard to see how both things are related. Thanks so much for opening my eyes for me! Futhermore, if you had actually watched enough Canuck games (like we have) you would know that HANSEN is one of the cleanest players ever and I am sorry Hossa and the black hawks screwed Van and Hansen over with that play (which still looks like a hockey play to me but what do I know I am 'delusional') and then with them lying about it later.

Then again what else is expected from the most 'classy' organization in the whole NHL.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:13 PM

Hansen did NOT elbow anyone! Even the suspension video says he hit Hossa with his FOREARM. Don`t expect anyone to take your opinion seriously if you can`t even get the most basic facts correct.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:15 PM

You don't have to have an individual account for each message board. If the team's NHL affiliated site has a forum, you can sign in with the ID you use here. I've done so myself to ask fans of another team for their perspective or talk about games against them.


Woah. I had no idea. Thanks for the information!
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:25 PM

No one has labeled Hossa a diver other than that sorry group of individuals whom no one takes seriously in the slightest.

It's all right there in the video, Hansen leans and reaches over Hossa's shoulder and forces his elbow into his head, there is absolutely no way you can watch the video and see anything else, yet you still somehow find ways to deny the purest and most undeniable form of proof.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNxZaYKD7z4


I agree with this statement "Hansen leans and reaches over Hossa's shoulder and forces his elbow into his head". I would replace elbow with forearm and would also add that it was accidental. Skip the video to 1:16 and you can see him connect with Hossa's shoulder and then glance off and hit the head. If the league wants to sunspend every accidental contact like this, we will have a very dull game. I think most fans here are most upset that if this hit deserves 1 game, why did Keith only get 5. Plays like Hansen's happen quite often in hockey games without any more than a penalty sometimes or more likely nothing. Because Hossa was shaken up a penalty was called late and a suspension was given partly based upon Hossa being injured. Now that it is clear that he wasn't injured fans are confused of why a suspension needed to be handed down.

This doesn't make Hossa look like a diver, but makes the league look amateur.

This makes Hossa look like a diver ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLx4uWlPzIU&feature=player_detailpage

Edited by bigpush, 25 February 2013 - 10:27 PM.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:29 PM

Morons believe Hansen's cheapshot was a "hockey play". Morons also start riots.The point is that your fanbase is full of morons.

And yeah, Hansen also delivered a cheapshot slash to Bolland and took him out of the game just earlier this month.

At least you got the part about you being delusional right.

Did I mention you are all morons?


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:32 PM

Morons believe Hansen's cheapshot was a "hockey play". Morons also start riots.The point is that your fanbase is full of morons.

And yeah, Hansen also delivered a cheapshot slash to Bolland and took him out of the game just earlier this month.

At least you got the part about you being delusional right.

Did I mention you are all morons?

You never answered my question about how the Riot had anything to do with The Hossa 'hit'...

Find me a video of this 'slash' to Bollard...........it is a possible I missed it but I am a little reluctant to believe anything you happen to say.

Thanks for the insults your just so classy just like your team <_< oh and just so you know I rather be a delusional moron cheering for a team with class then cheer for the Black hawks who are probably one of the cheapest dirtiest teams in the NHL.

Edited by Gillyfluffball, 25 February 2013 - 10:33 PM.

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