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#151 Wedge-tailed Eagle

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:37 PM

that would be fantastic

also rinne has looked very un rinne like at times this season had a good stretch recently but then had a stinker of a game against colorado 6-5 although that game should of been tied 5-5 anything is possible should be a fun game

Rinne came in after the 6 goals were score
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:38 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GoqOzotmVs


Thanks for this ... sure enjoyed that last power play and we didn't even score haha
Stars fans were so angry! kind of reminds me of a game I mentioned on CDC not to long ago ...

http://youtu.be/7XAeIGZt_2k

Good effort by the Canucks tonight, on to Nashville!! Go Canucks Go!!
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:39 PM

Wow, Roussel's actions were ultra-cheap. Glad when i saw him take a 95mph Garry slapper to the midsection. Karma hurts nuts.

Not sure why Kassian was benched when it's Kesler who was to blame for that first goal and of course the net-front giveaway. He came back too early again, folks. What a hero.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:40 PM

That final power play was just a slap in the face.lol

I really like Kassians aggressiveness on the 4th line. He whooped ass,even against a dance partner who jumped in on him with a visor on...

Booth,solid game. He wasn't amazing,but he played good in our own end,and was aggressive on the plays.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:42 PM

Actually, Rinne didn't start that game. Mason started and allowed all 6 goals. Rinne stopped all 10 shots he faced in relief. He did allow 3 goals in the Predators' last game against the Wings but in general he's been pretty solid and consistent lately.

That being said, Rinne seems to struggle a bit against the Canucks so I don't really know what to expect.


ah only noticed the 6-5 boxscore didn't check the stats
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:43 PM

is that one of those old wooden box tube tvs? id rather just listen to the game on the radio if thats the case,


Haha not wooden but definitely one of those older TVs.. works fine for me!
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:44 PM

ok not wanting to start it all over again but ordinary again? he played great against chicago and stole us that point

also schneider could of put up a 50 save shutout performance tonight and luongo would of been playing tomorrow and its not even because of a back to back more so we have been alternating goalies pretty much all season

schnieder has 514 minutes
luongo has 478 minutes

pretty interesting that we haven't leaned on one goalie so far i wonder what happens with the playoffs its nice to know that we have 2 starters


You missed the point of my post. I wasn't really talking about the merits of Luongo starting tomorrow, rather I was making the point that Luongo likely starting tomorrow doesn't need to be debated or discussed, nor does Schneider's performance. I was ultimately trying to say that we can sum up Schneider's performance in one sentence, whether you think he was bad, good, or ordinary, and we can probably surmise that Luongo will get the start tomorrow and that's it. No need to go on for pages and pages about anything goaltending related.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:44 PM

Wow, Roussel's actions were ultra-cheap. Glad when i saw him take a 95mph Garry slapper to the midsection. Karma hurts nuts.

Not sure why Kassian was benched when it's Kesler who was to blame for that first goal and of course the net-front giveaway. He came back too early again, folks. What a hero.


that's funny saying he came back to soon he looked pretty great his first game back i will admit he had a bad game tonight with his brutal giveaway could of easily been a turning point if there had been a 4th goal but there is no way i will say he came back too early again he just needs to get his timing back for passing and shooting and he will be great again and there is no way to do that except in actual games
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:45 PM

The PP at the end was the best,
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:47 PM

That final power play was just a slap in the face.lol

I really like Kassians aggressiveness on the 4th line. He whooped ass,even against a dance partner who jumped in on him with a visor on...

Booth,solid game. He wasn't amazing,but he played good in our own end,and was aggressive on the plays.


Agreed...Good to see Kassian play with a bit of fire....I saw Roussel fight Iginla a few days ago...If you wear a visor,isnt it the honorable thing to take your helmet off.?...Iggy did.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:48 PM

Man even though Kesler got 2 assists he directly caused 2 of Dallas' goals. First Dallas goal he had it 2 feet from the blue line to get it out and turns it over, then loses the puck in front of the net for their third goal. I knows he's just returned but man he has to get those kinda plays out of his game. He's normally so defensively sound?
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:50 PM

that's funny saying he came back to soon he looked pretty great his first game back i will admit he had a bad game tonight with his brutal giveaway could of easily been a turning point if there had been a 4th goal but there is no way i will say he came back too early again he just needs to get his timing back for passing and shooting and he will be great again and there is no way to do that except in actual games

He played awesome for his first period back, but since it's been turnover central for the guy. Not what i'm expecting from a former Selke nominee.

Maybe it's all rust. Maybe he just wants to prove he's a scorer again so he's virtually ignoring defense. Maybe he came back too early. Whatever it is, he needs to smarten up. He's the teams' most-important player.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:50 PM

Man even though Kesler got 2 assists he directly caused 2 of Dallas' goals. First Dallas goal he had it 2 feet from the blue line to get it out and turns it over, then loses the puck in front of the net for their third goal. I knows he's just returned but man he has to get those kinda plays out of his game. He's normally so defensively sound?


will get better with more games under his belt this year he is coming back from shoulder and wrist surgery his offense is there with 1g 3a but -3 is something he needs to work on and im not too worried because he did just come back recently
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:50 PM

DAT KASS!! Almost a Gordie Howe hat trick. Not bad.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:50 PM

I'm with you man, +1

As am I +1
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:54 PM

Oh, this wasn't really highlighted much, but what the heck was with Rome firing a puck at the Canucks Bench?
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:55 PM

great game good effort. 2 bad goals for Schnide one Kes was equally to blame for so 1.5 bad goals its reasonable to start Luo in the next game but overall great game by Schnider and the team. Kass looked much improved playing without the puck. Sedins are finding their game again with Burr. I didn't think Schredder had a great game but I'm still a believer that he can be a great player for us. Kesler NEEDS a few more games but congrats on the points.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GoqOzotmVs


love watching the Dallas fans heading for the exits on that powerplay, Also those ladies after Hanks goal just became Canuck fans,

Edited by TimberWolf, 21 February 2013 - 10:59 PM.

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I was saying Lu-Urns...

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:58 PM

you know what sux? last 6 games against backup/3rd string goalies.. and we are 3-1-2 =\ wasted a valuable 4 points :( which could be the difference between 2nd or 3rd seed.. doesn't matter for the 1st round but it could mean no more home ice after the first round

Just because a goalie is not a starter in the NHL, in no way dimishes their abilities. There are only 30 odd starters and an infinite number of goalies capable of being in the NHL, its a numbers game. New age goalies are well schooled and technically very good and only thing missing is opportunity. On the plus side, shooters don;t know their weaknesses...advantage, goalie !
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:03 PM

One goal by Garrison still doesn't make up for so much crap he's done

The D's still pretty bad but meh, first game with new pairs

Kesler needs to stop carrying the puck so much and pass. Created the Morrow goal all by himself


You are absolutely hilarious. Do you actually watch the game that is on, or do you just mailin your opinions form three weeks ago?
Everybody makes mistakes, but you have to look at how is the player doing overall. Garrison and Bieksa are our top 2 +/- D's . The D looked the most steady it has been in an age in spite of the breakdowns resulting in goals. Edler looked much better going back to his natural side, and Tanev seemed to steady him. Hamhuis and Bieksa mostly got it done. Ballard didn't seem affected one bit by being on his off-side, and Garrison looked in no trouble at all tonite. Kesler, by the way, had two assists and passed the puck more than he has in an age.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:04 PM

you know what sux? last 6 games against backup/3rd string goalies.. and we are 3-1-2 =\ wasted a valuable 4 points :( which could be the difference between 2nd or 3rd seed.. doesn't matter for the 1st round but it could mean no more home ice after the first round


going through the 3 losses

Jake Allen is a decent goalie not too surprised about losing to him
Ray Emery is still a good goalie could be a starter and playing with the hawks we were lucky to get a point
Richard Bachman this one bugs me we were up 3-1 in this game and lose 4-3 in regulation should of gotten a win even a point

all in all just because a backup or a third string goalie gets started doesn't instantly mean a free win the goaltending talent around the league is pretty good in recent years
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:04 PM

maybe next time kass is in a fight with a guy wearing a visor he should rip his helmet off im not so sure any of his punches hit anything but plastic and was very surprised he didnt have an ice pack on his hand. roussel is pale and he didnt have 1 red mark on his face going to the box.


My thoughts exactly...I hate the visor-wearing guys who initiate a fight...Roussel should have manned up, took his lid off and challenged Kass like an honorable fighter would instead of flailing away before Kass got set up for a fight. Lapierre used to be that guy...but now he takes his helmet off. Roussel looks to be one of those rats Burkie talked about.

On all the talk about our goaltending...on any given night, our tending has to be better than our opposition's regardless of who's in between the pipes. When that happens, we typically win...and vice-versa. So taking tonight as an example, Schneids didn't play great, but he played better than the AHLer in the Stars net...Schneids made timely saves when needed and that's what gives us the chance to win (and yes, I get that the more shots our goalies save the better our chances). He's the sole reason why we got a point in Chicago, so why can't he be given a pass for a sub-par performance (by the standards we expect from our goalies) that yielded a victory tonight? As for Luongo, he got outplayed by Jake Allen last Sunday, so yah we didn't bet two points. But he's outperformed opposition goalies on more nights than not, giving us the unexpected start to the season that we've experienced.

I don't get all this angst of having two really good goalies...realistically, it's a foregone conclusion that one is going to be moved in the near future. Which one will be moved is becoming cloudier (at least for me) with every passing day...so as a Canucks fan, here's what I'm doing to keep my sanity through this goalie "drama" -- I'm enjoying watching the tandem for as long as it's available to me, because it's going to end soon and it will be a long time before we have a tandem that is as good as what we are watching right now. It is not likely that I will ever see such a good one-two tandem again in my lifetime.

My other thoughts on the game tonight...Garrison looked a lot more comfortable and confident with his offensive game; Edler was still a step or two behind or ahead of the play in all three zones of the ice; Bieksa was his usual high risk/high reward guy; Tanev is steady no matter where you put him; honestly didn't notice Hamhuis (other than the beauty of a pass he made to Bieksa) and Ballard, so that's a good thing; Kes looks like he needs another couple of games to catch up to everyone; Booth looked good, but I think he's running on adrenaline right now, so I expect he'll regress in a game or two; Schroeder and Mase need to be kept together (they have that special magic between them); Sedins/Burr/Higgy look like their game has rounded into form; didn't notice Volpatti/Lapierre/Weise all that much tonight.

Back to Kass's fight...I've got a serious hate-on for that rat Roussel for fighting with a visor. Like chrisbanks says, it's too bad Kass didn't rip the punk's helmet off and lay a beat down on him that he deserved.

Edited by disisdayear, 21 February 2013 - 11:10 PM.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:04 PM

ok not wanting to start it all over again but ordinary again? he played great against chicago and stole us that point

also schneider could of put up a 50 save shutout performance tonight and luongo would of been playing tomorrow and its not even because of a back to back more so we have been alternating goalies pretty much all season

schnieder has 514 minutes
luongo has 478 minutes

pretty interesting that we haven't leaned on one goalie so far i wonder what happens with the playoffs its nice to know that we have 2 starters

a point was made a couple days ago on live at the score about having 2 good goalies worked great for st louis until the playoffs if u can go into the playoffs with both playing well its fine but it take 2 bad games befor the playoffs and 1 loss to start the playoffs to have it all crumble. a goalie needs to be on a roll heading into the playoffs and keep it going .. if they struggle down the stretch and you dont know who your #1 is come playoffs it could be a mess just like st louis .
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:09 PM

Solid game by the defense partners. Garrison with his best game to date......love the shot.

2nd line looked sloppy......Kesler gonna need a couple weeks to sharpen things up.

Kassian seems to be getting the message that he needs to make his presence felt. Gonna be a beast in playoffs this year.

Watching our game right now I believe there's a disconnect between the D and Forwards. AV's game plan of stretch passes or dumping of pucks instead of short controlled passes is going to hurt this team long term and leaves us chasing for possession all too often. There is no way we should be getting outshot by a team like Dallas. The 2011 Team was able to control the tempo and pace to most games while this team seems to do just enough to get results. Hopefully in a few weeks with all our top forwards healthy we begin to see dominance by more than just the Sedins.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:09 PM

a point was made a couple days ago on live at the score about having 2 good goalies worked great for st louis until the playoffs if u can go into the playoffs with both playing well its fine but it take 2 bad games befor the playoffs and 1 loss to start the playoffs to have it all crumble. a goalie needs to be on a roll heading into the playoffs and keep it going .. if they struggle down the stretch and you dont know who your #1 is come playoffs it could be a mess just like st louis .


true that is always the risk to go in with a tandem into the playoffs the only one in the post 2005 lockout era that has worked has been hasek and osgood
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:17 PM

the kassquatch with 2/3rds of a gordie howe...goood in my books. kesler with two assists but his shot is naaaasty. good win. i can't believe we couldn't get one on that last pp. woooooooooo


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:18 PM

the kassquatch with 2/3rds of a gordie howe...goood in my books. kesler with two assists but his shot is naaaasty. good win. i can't believe we couldn't get one on that last pp. woooooooooo


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they didn't even try to get a shot on net for the last pp i think they were just happy controlling the puck in the offensive zone
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:21 PM

they didn't even try to get a shot on net for the last pp i think they were just happy controlling the puck in the offensive zone


Yeah, we had awesome control there, easy game of keepaway. Would have been amazing to see a shot with 2 seconds left and a goal or something though. :P
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:21 PM

I find it extremely concerning that people think that Luongo should start simply because his save percentage is higher. There is no way in hell we would have got a point in the Chicago game if Luongo was in net. Schneider was incredible. Although Schneider wasn't completely on his game today he did his job. You can't blame him on Kesler's stupid play. So really he only let in 2.

Getting off the goaltending. Being a new player in a system can be challenging. It's clear that Garrison hasn't had a lot of confidence since joining the Canucks. It's a real positive that he started to shoot. He needs to be on the powerplay instead of Edler.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:28 PM

You missed the point of my post. I wasn't really talking about the merits of Luongo starting tomorrow, rather I was making the point that Luongo likely starting tomorrow doesn't need to be debated or discussed, nor does Schneider's performance. I was ultimately trying to say that we can sum up Schneider's performance in one sentence, whether you think he was bad, good, or ordinary, and we can probably surmise that Luongo will get the start tomorrow and that's it. No need to go on for pages and pages about anything goaltending related.

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