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#31 JimLahey

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:25 PM

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:27 PM

Just think in 3 years or less, this could be our third line:

Jensen - Guance - Kassian

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:27 PM

Honestly after the fight his game dud approve a lot. Both goals scores on the kesler line were a result of kes coughing up the puck or his inability to make the safe pass.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:28 PM

OK this has to be sarcasm right ???? Pull your head out of your butt walk over to the power bar and pull it out of the wall, problem solved !
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:29 PM

Incorrect - he could play in the AHL.


Just to re-iterate my point - during his interview on Team 1040 right now, Gillis said, that the Canucks didn't allow AIK to trade Jensen to another SEL team because Gillis wanted to get Jensen some AHL experience this year, and if Jensen plays well enough, that he will get some NHL action this season.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:30 PM

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Booth - Kesler - Kassian
Raymond - Schroeder - Jensen
Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen

Kassian's roster spot is in jeopardy if Jensen comes over how?


That looks like a SC winning team, especially if Jensen can reproduce his form shown over in Sweden
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:39 PM

We'll see how he does in the AHL first but I can't wait to see him on the Nucks. Imagine:

Sedins-Burrows
Booth-Kesler-Jensen
Raymond-Schroeder-Kassian
Higgins-Lappierre-Hansen

Yikes that looks potentially deadly. Kassian on the 3rd would give some much needed size to that line and the 2nd could have the sniper that it so desperately needs. And I mean, look at that 4th line! Yes please! Here's hoping Jensen shines in the minors :towel:

Edit: that D man from around the 2:20 mark in the vid is still looking for his jock strap! Ridonculous!

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:41 PM

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Booth - Kesler - Kassian
Raymond - Schroeder - Jensen
Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen

Kassian's roster spot is in jeopardy if Jensen comes over how?


No way Hansen is playing on the 4th. He's been in pound for pound sense our best player this year. I'm talking effectiveness in each shift consistently, not literally our best player.

Only way Jensen cracks our roster is if there's injuries. Kassian hasn't been terrible he just needs limited minutes IMO. It's that rare case where a future star is better off 3rd line NHL than 1st line ahl.. I think we should shelter him but promote him in short stints when he gets hot.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:42 PM

Kassian's not going to lose his spot to Jensen, not this year anyway. Kass has been up and down the line up if only for inconsistency. Like all big guys, once you get him mad he's an unstoppable force. I thought he played well last night, an assist on the Garrison goal, and a big fight vs. Roussel - who should have got a penalty for instigating a fight with a visor on. After the fight AV gave Kass some PP time in the 3rd.

Jensen is still a bit of a project. He has to come back and relearn the NA game. It's also been rumoured that he has a big head, so cooling his ego down a bit is necessary.

Based solely on numbers, Jensen could have a real shot at a wing position next year. I say this because the cap is going down to 64.3m and we currently have 55m tied up in 13 players. We can theoretically only afford one of Higgins/Raymond who are both pending FAs. In this respect, Jensen's ELC looks really good.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:43 PM

Kassian needs to play a lot and not 4th line minutes or it's just going to hurt his development even further

WTH? are you saying the Canucks have hurt his development? That's just stupid if you are, or are you saying Buffalo hurt his development? In which case I don't know about that.

Also for all of those who are saying Jensen cannot play for the Canucks this season, I was just listening to Gillis on Team 1040 and from his comments it seems Jensen could definately play on the Canucks this season. Gillis says he will go to Chicago first and if he earns it, Jensen with the big club is a distinct posibility.

One last question about Nicklas Jensen, does anyone if he is related to Danish Climber Mogens Jensen? Jensen is probably a very common last name but still, it would be pretty cool.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:43 PM

He isn't allowed to play in AHL, he has to report to Juniors or make the NHL. He can only play in the AHL when his Junior team is done for the season.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:46 PM

Kassian's not going to lose his spot to Jensen, not this year anyway. Kass has been up and down the line up if only for inconsistency. Like all big guys, once you get him mad he's an unstoppable force. I thought he played well last night, an assist on the Garrison goal, and a big fight vs. Roussel - who should have got a penalty for instigating a fight with a visor on. After the fight AV gave Kass some PP time in the 3rd.


I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. Roussel should take that visor off, or stop starting fights.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:46 PM

Incorrect - he could play in the AHL.

Just to re-iterate my point - during his interview on Team 1040 right now, Gillis said, that the Canucks didn't allow AIK to trade Jensen to another SEL team because Gillis wanted to get Jensen some AHL experience this year, and if Jensen plays well enough, that he will get some NHL action this season.


Umm, huh.

Since this question seems to come up over and over again:

There is a private agreement in place between the NHL and the CHL that governs when a player coming from the CHL can play in the AHL. A player from the CHL has to either turn 20 by December 31st of the season (ie a player born in 1987 can start playing in the 2007-08 season, a player born in 1988 can start playing in the 2008-09 season etc.) OR have completed 4 seasons of junior eligibility.



Nicklas Jensen Posted Image Born March 6, 1993 (age 19)
Herning, Denmark


I dont see how he can play.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:48 PM

He isn't allowed to play in AHL, he has to report to Juniors or make the NHL. He can only play in the AHL when his Junior team is done for the season.


Gillis had an interview with Team 1040, the highlights were kindly posted by NuxFan in the Jensen thread. He basically said Jensen would go straight to the AHL when his SEL season finishes Mar. 5th. Gillis also blocked an SEL trade of Jensen which would have put him on an SEL playoff team and possibly keep him there until April.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:50 PM

His birthday is a day after the SEL season if over. He'll turn 20, is that why people say he is eligible for AHL?
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:50 PM

His birthday is a day after the SEL season if over. He'll turn 20, is that why people say he is eligible for AHL?

No we say he is because Gillis says he is, and its his job to know such things.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:54 PM

Gillis had an interview with Team 1040, the highlights were kindly posted by NuxFan in the Jensen thread. He basically said Jensen would go straight to the AHL when his SEL season finishes Mar. 5th. Gillis also blocked an SEL trade of Jensen which would have put him on an SEL playoff team and possibly keep him there until April.


Coincidentally, bot the OHL and SEL seasons end in March, essentially at the same time, which would allow Jensen to play AHL till end of season (April 21, 2013), then play NHL.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:59 PM

Looks like this thread has been answered then.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:01 PM

I was expecting this thread to be a lot stupider than it is.
Granted, I still can't see Kassian losing his spot, even if Jensen does come over.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:02 PM

I thought Jensen wouldn't be eligible to play with us (or some other factor) this year.

Incorrect - he could play in the AHL.

Certainly if Oshawa (the CHL team that holds his junior rights) refused him, he could play in the AHL if he didn't stick with the Canucks after his SEL season is done. If he doesn't play with the Canucks and Oshawa will take him on their roster, he is still under the age limit where he wouldn't be eligible for the AHL according to the CHL/NHL transfer agreement.

Just to re-iterate my point - during his interview on Team 1040 right now, Gillis said, that the Canucks didn't allow AIK to trade Jensen to another SEL team because Gillis wanted to get Jensen some AHL experience this year, and if Jensen plays well enough, that he will get some NHL action this season.

Interesting, perhaps there's something about him having played in the SEL this season that circumvents the usual CHL/NHL agreement? Is it something to do with the clear day rosters after a certain date? I'm not so sure the Generals would refuse him back on their team if he were to be available again.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:06 PM

kassian is only 22, he's being moved up and down the line up and trying to fit in. He had a great start and has all the raw talent required. We need to support this guy rather than bring out the knives after a few weak performances. Eventually he'll be a very useful top six performer.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:18 PM

wise showed he had more  hustle  and speed than kassian last game  it only took one shift befor kassian was sat for wise on the second line  how about he plays on the 3rd and 4th and works his way up ... .


Amazingly on his first shift Kassian would have had a breakaway if Kesler knew how to pass. And he still got switched with Weiss. And note it is "Weiss" not "Wise".
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:21 PM

Don't the Canucks give up 1yr of Jensens' ECL if he plays for Wolves (or Nucks)? Really not worth it, IMO. Maybe MG thinks the kid could have an impact with the big club.

Jensen would not knock Kassian off the team, but would probably result in Zak being stuck on the 4th line. I don't think that would be good for Zak's development. I like how he has adjusted to different linemates and is challenged to play better. Leaving him 'floundering' as a 4th line pylon will result in a bored player with little progression.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:24 PM

Certainly if Oshawa (the CHL team that holds his junior rights) refused him, he could play in the AHL if he didn't stick with the Canucks after his SEL season is done. If he doesn't play with the Canucks and Oshawa will take him on their roster, he is still under the age limit where he wouldn't be eligible for the AHL according to the CHL/NHL transfer agreement.


Interesting, perhaps there's something about him having played in the SEL this season that circumvents the usual CHL/NHL agreement? Is it something to do with the clear day rosters after a certain date? I'm not so sure the Generals would refuse him back on their team if he were to be available again.


I'm speaking out of my butt here, but I understand it to be a private (ie: not legally enforceable) agreement between the CHL and the NHL, not the NHL and all junior leagues across the globe. If he doesn't play a game in the CHL, why would he be bound by that agreement? This corroborates what MG was saying. Sounds good to me!
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:25 PM

Don't the Canucks give up 1yr of Jensens' ECL if he plays for Wolves (or Nucks)? Really not worth it, IMO. Maybe MG thinks the kid could have an impact with the big club.

Jensen would not knock Kassian off the team, but would probably result in Zak being stuck on the 4th line. I don't think that would be good for Zak's development. I like how he has adjusted to different linemates and is challenged to play better. Leaving him 'floundering' as a 4th line pylon will result in a bored player with little progression.

Pretty sure (at least under the old CBA) Teams were given a 10 game trial period for ELC players before it burned 1 year off of their contracts.

edit: and that was for the Big Club not the AHL teams

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:33 PM

As opposed to laying on his belly like our two "defensemen".

no he went flying by on one knee
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:36 PM

I have seen Kassian get more uncapitalized scoring chances then any other player on this team. I am sure AV sees it as well. Kassian isn't going anywhere, yet.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:42 PM

Don't the Canucks give up 1yr of Jensens' ECL if he plays for Wolves (or Nucks)? Really not worth it, IMO. Maybe MG thinks the kid could have an impact with the big club.

Jensen would not knock Kassian off the team, but would probably result in Zak being stuck on the 4th line. I don't think that would be good for Zak's development. I like how he has adjusted to different linemates and is challenged to play better. Leaving him 'floundering' as a 4th line pylon will result in a bored player with little progression.


MG has stated he has a different philosophy concerning burning a year off of an ELC - that being the play has less time to prove he is worth a gigantic raise if a year is burned off. A player who consistently puts up, let's say 50 points in the NHL, during his 3 year ELC would be looking at a pretty hefty raise. A player who say only just makes the NHL on the last year of his ELC would be looking at a smaller contract extension. It's moneyball at it's finest.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 03:07 PM

nucks like to season there young guys in the ahl getting quality minutes and learning the systems. since gillis has shown up i have be impressed with the way they develop first. and as much as i'd like to see a jordan mason and jensen line it really doesn't address the need of a shut down checking line especially with manny gone.when the playoff start up i could see him being a call up if he impresses at the AHL level.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 03:10 PM

Why do people here continuously think that just throwing a guy in will automatically work?

As of right now, Jensen is all potential, no development. Meaning he's well behind Kassian in terms of securing a roster spot.

But some here would rather try and throw in Corrado than go with proven vets.

No clue. Just no clue at all.
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