Jump to content

Welcome to canucks.com Vancouver Canucks homepage

Photo

Free Taxi Ride ....to save lives.


  • Please log in to reply
22 replies to this topic

#1 Bertorama

Bertorama

    Comets Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 401 posts
  • Joined: 25-January 04

Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:39 PM

I'm going to get to the point and I would love legitimate feedback on why this won't work and how we could make it work.

If we wanted to be a progressive country and lead the world in needless deaths each year caused by drunk driving or driving under the influence, I have an Idea. Every year millions of dollars and T.V. Radio, social media campaigns are spent on educating the general public on the consequences of Drunk Driving and Police spend amazing amounts of our tax dollars trying to protect us from those of us who decide we can try and get away with it.

But rarely have I heard anyone talk about an allternate solution to this issue that is truly proactive and would really make an impact on lowering the amount of deaths needlessly caused by driving under the influence.


Wouldn't you rather your hard earned tax dollar go to truly saving a life ?

Why not have government subsidized paid for free taxi rides for anyone who is over the legal limit to drive. Imagine the jobs this would create and imagine the lives saved.


How many of your friends or family have decided to drive because of the cost of a taxi? Or the inconvenience of getting a taxi? Not only should the taxis be free but busses and transit as well.

If our government was truly in support of all Canadians and humanity why not?

Why not make this a free service to the public that we all pay for in our yearly taxes.


I know I personally would feel much better about my hard earned money going to the greater good to save lives and promote economic growth.


There are so many other reasons that free transit could benefit our economy and eco. The possibilities are endless.

I know this is a blue sky thought but like.... free energy ......or water

But shouldn't it be?


Why not?

Edited by Bertorama, 24 February 2013 - 10:42 PM.

  • 0

thcanucks_skate_spin.gif


#2 elvis15

elvis15

    Canucks Hall-of-Famer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 21,835 posts
  • Joined: 27-February 07

Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:55 PM

Drunk people who drive don't make good decisions, least of which would be leaving their car behind and taking the initiative of calling for a taxi - even if it's free.
  • 0

c3c9e9.pnganimalhousesig.jpg

Tanev is going to EDM. I can put my life savings down on it

 


#3 MrsCanuck

MrsCanuck

    Canucks Third-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,629 posts
  • Joined: 20-March 09

Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:17 AM

Although that's an interesting idea, it comes with massive investment by the federal government.

For particularly BC, simply having the skytrain run all night on weekends would be a great step. It's a big change but at least the additional costs are mostly security related.
  • 2
Posted Image

#4 Bob.Loblaw

Bob.Loblaw

    Canucks Franchise Player

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,550 posts
  • Joined: 24-November 09

Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:31 AM

Free taxi rides? I'd be taking them all the time, even if I wasn't drunk. There'd be no point of having my own car if I could just call a cab for free.

What we need are reduced rates from 9pm-5am. No point of having public transportation going that late, but a night rate could help clear out the streets of drunk drivers.
  • 0
Posted Image

Hockey_Crazy is a god. But I still got dibs on Yuna.

#5 Lancaster

Lancaster

    Canucks Rookie

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,609 posts
  • Joined: 03-September 12

Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:34 AM

What's next? Free hotels for people who are too wasted to walk?
  • 1

#6 Common sense

Common sense

    Canucks Hall-of-Famer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 21,742 posts
  • Joined: 08-January 06

Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:45 AM

Police checkpoints on Burrard, Granville, Cambie, Lion's Gate, and Dunsmir would deter a vast majority of those drink-and-crash cases. At the very least, it would be much more cost-effective and in-your-face than socializing all forms of public transportation just because some people couldn't handle their liquor.
  • 0

#7 nucklehead

nucklehead

    Canucks Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,563 posts
  • Joined: 23-March 03

Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:47 AM

How many of your friends or family have decided to drive because of the cost of a taxi? Or the inconvenience of getting a taxi?

Cost of a cab: $10,20,50,100?

Cost of crashing impaired: Virtuallly Incalcuable.

Loss of licence and perhaps job
Injury and/or loss of life and limbs to self or others
Destruction of propery
Criminal record/imprisionment
Loss of future insurability and earnings
Loss of personal, family and business assets
Damage to reputation and employabilty
Other...
All of which could be avoided by people taking responsiblity for themselves. Perhaps if they stop for a sober moment and consider the above they will see the wisdom of putting a little aside for a taxi ride. How much can a night out cost these days? $1-2-300+? Sorry I will in no way advocate for a nanny society. If you can spend that much for a night out you can pay for a cab. Grow up.

And if you think it's hard to get a cab now how hard would it be if they were free?
  • 1
biggerabacus_zps5cae10b6.jpg

I got kicked out of the slut walk for trying to bid on the participants.

-BananaMash

#8 Dazzle

Dazzle

    Canucks Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,445 posts
  • Joined: 27-June 06

Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:33 AM

I like the attitude behind it but totally not sustainable.

IMHO, people are just too cheap rather than the fact that they "can't afford a taxi". If you can drive, you can afford a taxi OR a bus (which is even cheaper)

Threads like these, sorry, to say, only excuse the behaviour of drunk drivers who can now make an argument that using a taxi is 'too expensive'.

There ARE alternatives, but people CHOOSE not to use them - not because it's too expensive.

Furthermore, how do you expect the country to prosper when money is spent to pay for these services that are, for the most part, already in place, for the several selfish individuals who want to save a quick buck?

We've seen people want to get away from responsibility, namely the couple that lied about their original story that an incoming car failed to observe traffic rules and regulations, only for the judge to determine that the couple were the ones that did not follow rules and regulations. It ended up costing them nearly $ 200 K - all because they wanted to avoid responsibility and an $ 800 dollar fee.

I respectfully am NOT in favour of the proposal you have presented.
  • 0
Posted Image --> THANKS EGATTI.

I have to say Dazzle's was the coolest. ROTFLOL


#9 PlayStation

PlayStation

    XBox

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,296 posts
  • Joined: 12-April 08

Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:06 AM

Nope, if you can pay $100+ dollars at the club, or buy all that alchohol in the first place, fork out some more money to pay for a taxi.
  • 0
Posted Image


"Real Men" :bigblush:

#10 Jägermeister

Jägermeister

    Canucks First-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,217 posts
  • Joined: 24-May 12

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:51 PM

They need to run the SkyTrains all night on Fridays and Saturdays.
  • 2

Jagermeister.jpg


#11 vavoom

vavoom

    Comets Prospect

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 163 posts
  • Joined: 15-December 11

Posted 25 February 2013 - 06:01 PM

Lets see.... For someone like me, 3 beers will get me above limit. So, everytime I need to go somewhere, I can either drive (which costs me money) or I can have 3 beers and get a free taxi (costs me less money).
  • 0

#12 Jai604

Jai604

    Canucks First-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,039 posts
  • Joined: 14-October 10

Posted 25 February 2013 - 06:03 PM

They need to run the SkyTrains all night on Fridays and Saturdays.


^This.

It's insanity that the skytrains don't run past 1:17 a.m. Who the hell goes home that early after a night at the bar/club/lounge?

Stupid.
  • 0

RIP LB RR PD


#13 Mr. Ambien

Mr. Ambien

    Canucks First-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,087 posts
  • Joined: 07-April 03

Posted 25 February 2013 - 06:15 PM

I don't see this as saving a life, I see this as financing an individual's stupid decisions on the taxpayer's back. BC taxpayers are already on the hook should this person need hospitalisation and treatment. Why go even further?

I doubt this thinking will gain much traction but pretending it could, as long as you guys in BC pay for it and we don't over here in Ontario, I guess it doesn't bother me too much.

If you want to turn this into a better idea that doesn't require participation by people not morons, why not consider petitioning bars/pubs privately having an agreement with taxi companies and individuals that start a tab (i.e. accumulate drinks) pay a sort of charge with their drinks after the first few that goes toward a taxi ride. There can be other rules along with this that govern those, for example, who prove to the bartender or server that they have a designated driver and would be exempt from this charge.

Edited by zaibatsu, 25 February 2013 - 06:20 PM.

  • 0

#14 Hobble

Hobble

    Canucks All-Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,713 posts
  • Joined: 27-June 07

Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:27 PM

Everyone would just drink to the point where they are too intoxicated to drive in order to qualify for the free taxi. Would be a waste of government money.
  • 0

#15 Grapefruits

Grapefruits

    Fruit

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,200 posts
  • Joined: 18-March 08

Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:48 PM

Perfect idea! So now when I go DT and I want a free ride home I'll just drink too much. There are many services already out there that drive you and your car home for a decent price. Many pubs also offer a free shuttle service home.

You really want to end drinking and driving, make it mandatory for every vehicle to have a breathalyzer device installed.
  • 0

fzbyi9.jpg


#16 :D

:D

    Canucks Hall-of-Famer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 21,075 posts
  • Joined: 14-August 03

Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:51 PM

I hope the government doesn't take any step to encourage people to drink until they get sloppy. Tax alcohol like cigarettes, increase fines/penalties for DWI or public intoxication and push rapid transit back an hour while closing bars/clubs an hour earlier.


  • 0

#17 La Mauviette75

La Mauviette75

    Canucks Prospect

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,245 posts
  • Joined: 28-February 12

Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:07 PM

i have heard of places, not in canada, in which bars provide some kind of shuttle service every hour or so. (a bunch of people get on a minivan, and are dropped off at places (within reasonable proximity).

also public transportation needs to go later. i'm talking like 3am at least on fridays and saturdays.
  • 0
Posted Image

O Ville Lumière, Sens la chaleur, de notre coeur

#18 Bertorama

Bertorama

    Comets Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 401 posts
  • Joined: 25-January 04

Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:11 PM

Great feedback thank you all. I really appreciate the open feedback.

I understand that there are many views on alcohol and its limits or usage. We often get very defensive or opinionated as to the amount others consume. I just want to say openly I don't promote alcohol consumption for free rides home. But certainly without judgment my hope is to protect the innocent from the ignorant.

I wasn't really trying to talk about allowance of alcohol consumption rather prevention of Deaths due to drunk driving. I agree with Z13! A breathalizer in each car is a great idea to save lives but what about free transit?

Just imagine your transit was free after let's say 9pm as suggested previously in this post until 5 am.

Would that not save lives? Is that not a great thing? What if that life saved was your wife from a drunk driver who kills her. or your child, your friend. Would you not want to promote a preventative option ton that?

What if the motive wasn't alcohol related but to promote economic growth? People would consider taking jobs farther away if transit was free.

What if the motive was to entice a go green initiative car pool transit usage ect.


Those are my thoughts.

Edited by Bertorama, 25 February 2013 - 09:15 PM.

  • 0

thcanucks_skate_spin.gif


#19 Grapefruits

Grapefruits

    Fruit

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,200 posts
  • Joined: 18-March 08

Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:30 PM

For most people who drive drunk, they don't do it because transit/cab etc. costs money, it's because they don't want to leave their car behind. It's a pain for them to come back and get it. I think if most people at the pubs realized there are services offered to get them home safely with their car, they would use it.

Maybe the pubs should help subsidize the services to get their patrons home safe. Great PR as well.
  • 0

fzbyi9.jpg


#20 MillerGenuineDraft

MillerGenuineDraft

    Canucks Third-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,821 posts
  • Joined: 28-December 07

Posted 26 February 2013 - 12:19 AM

This is a solid idea, but at the end of the day, what would justify one being drunk and eligible to receive the service?

Drinking and driving typically does not occur with intention. You typically drive somewhere, and someone offers a drink. One turns into 6 and next thing you know it, something unfortunate happens.

This service would require the drunk person to leave their car where ever they parked it. Not many people would want to leave their car unattended at 5am downtown; hence the drinking and driving.
  • 0
MILLERGENUINEDRAFT

#21 etsen3

etsen3

    Canucks Second-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,741 posts
  • Joined: 02-July 10

Posted 26 February 2013 - 12:27 AM

A free taxi service doesn't sound very practical or cost effective to me. Think about how many people are out getting drunk every night. Cars cost a lot of money to operate, and I think a lot of people would take advantage of the system, I know I would be tempted especially when I'm drunk. I think a much better solution would be to simply have public transit run later, especially on weekends.

Edited by etsen3, 26 February 2013 - 12:31 AM.

  • 0

#22 Lancaster

Lancaster

    Canucks Rookie

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,609 posts
  • Joined: 03-September 12

Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:07 AM

Great feedback thank you all. I really appreciate the open feedback.

I understand that there are many views on alcohol and its limits or usage. We often get very defensive or opinionated as to the amount others consume. I just want to say openly I don't promote alcohol consumption for free rides home. But certainly without judgment my hope is to protect the innocent from the ignorant.

I wasn't really trying to talk about allowance of alcohol consumption rather prevention of Deaths due to drunk driving. I agree with Z13! A breathalizer in each car is a great idea to save lives but what about free transit?

Just imagine your transit was free after let's say 9pm as suggested previously in this post until 5 am.

Would that not save lives? Is that not a great thing? What if that life saved was your wife from a drunk driver who kills her. or your child, your friend. Would you not want to promote a preventative option ton that?

What if the motive wasn't alcohol related but to promote economic growth? People would consider taking jobs farther away if transit was free.

What if the motive was to entice a go green initiative car pool transit usage ect.


Those are my thoughts.


The unfortunate reality is that resources are limited. While it is admirable to save lives and prevent injuries, it still has to be cost effective.

Money has to come from somewhere and it's very hard to convince anyone to spend tax dollars to fund irresponsible drinkers and their habits instead of using the same money for drug prevention, hiring more doctors/nurses, upgrading hospitals, etc.
  • 0

#23 Jägermeister

Jägermeister

    Canucks First-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,217 posts
  • Joined: 24-May 12

Posted 26 February 2013 - 01:52 PM

^This.

It's insanity that the skytrains don't run past 1:17 a.m. Who the hell goes home that early after a night at the bar/club/lounge?

Stupid.


Plus by the time 3 or 4 rolls around since there is no real alternative way to get out of downtown, all of the taxis in the area are already taken.
Nothing worse than having to wait out in the rain for an hour trying to find an empty taxi, and it happens pretty much every time.

Edited by Jägermeister, 26 February 2013 - 01:53 PM.

  • 0

Jagermeister.jpg





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Canucks.com is the official Web site of The Vancouver Canucks. The Vancouver Canucks and Canucks.com are trademarks of The Vancouver Canucks Limited Partnership.  NHL and the word mark and image of the Stanley Cup are registered trademarks and the NHL Shield and NHL Conference logos are trademarks of the National Hockey League. All NHL logos and marks and NHL team logos and marks as well as all other proprietary materials depicted herein are the property of the NHL and the respective NHL teams and may not be reproduced without the prior written consent of NHL Enterprises, L.P.  Copyright © 2009 The Vancouver Canucks Limited Partnership and the National Hockey League.  All Rights Reserved.