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#31 Aladeen

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:49 PM

So agree with this post. I've never undertsood why the majority of CDC seems to treat MG as god. The Malhotra issue aside, MG has made some awful decisions as a GM including: Signing Ballard for 4.5m, only to see him become a bottom pairing Dmen; the Hodgson trade (say what you will about Kas, Hodgson would have provided the secondary scoring this team really needs and Kas doesn't really do that); Luongo's insane contract and his inability to trade him yet; Brining Booth in a 4.2m and only getting 30pts out of him last year and one this year; signing Garrison for 4.6m cap hit after one good season in Florida.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:07 PM

Zero Credibility.


Sorry you're right he traded for Ballard, including giving up a 1st round pick and Granber who went on to score 34 goals that year.  You're right that's much worse!

Edited by Langdon Algur, 27 February 2013 - 04:09 PM.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:17 PM

Sorry you're right he traded for Ballard, including giving up a 1st round pick and Granber who went on to score 34 goals that year. You're right that's much worse!

Ah, that old chestnut again. The one about the player who we would have likely lost to waivers for nothing that we instead traded to fill a hole we had on D? Gramps used to tell us that one around the fire after dinner.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:26 PM

Malhotra is classy as ever. I am so glad we had him. Good luck to him. Hope he stays as an assistant coach or something. ^^

Edited by CHIPS, 27 February 2013 - 04:26 PM.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:09 PM

I said this the day MG announced Manny was done. It was such a shady move. I mean all of a sudden MG cared about Manny's health right when Kesler was set to return? C'MON people...This move was made only to make room for Kesler, such a scumbag move. Does MG think the fans are stupid?? How can a GM tell a player he's done when the player himself feels he can still play? I've never liked MG and this only makes me dislike him even more. CDC overrates this douchebag big time


One interesting part of this whole saga is that Manny is apparently unfit to play games because of the danger of further injury but it's OK for him to practice with the team which smells a lot like seafood to me. Remember a guy named Valeri Zelepukin? He has a similar injury to Malhotra but instead of it happening in a game it happened, that's right, in PRACTICE. He was never the same again. This reeks of cap circumvention and/or creative roster management. Thinking outside the box again, MG?
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:15 PM

he was great at the faceoffs
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:18 PM

Sorry you're right he traded for Ballard, including giving up a 1st round pick and Granber who went on to score 34 goals that year.  You're right that's much worse!


The same Grabner that went to Florida's training camp that year overweight and needed to be waived to wake him up. What does that tell you in a player's character? And what has done the last year and ahalf since that 34 goal season?
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:34 PM

One interesting part of this whole saga is that Manny is apparently unfit to play games because of the danger of further injury but it's OK for him to practice with the team which smells a lot like seafood to me. Remember a guy named Valeri Zelepukin? He has a similar injury to Malhotra but instead of it happening in a game it happened, that's right, in PRACTICE. He was never the same again. This reeks of cap circumvention and/or creative roster management. Thinking outside the box again, MG?

Haha! Keep trying though.

Manny's risk now is being blindsided by a hit and concussed rather than it being a worry about a puck coming at his face.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:57 PM

I'm confused, is this another MG hate thread or a thread on Manny's condition and feelings about being placed on IR? I'm going to assume it's still the latter and say something I've been dying to say for a couple years now....

Hasn't anybody else noticed that Malhotra's eye has been half shut the ever since the incident occurred?!!
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:59 PM

Ah, that old chestnut again. The one about the player who we would have likely lost to waivers for nothing that we instead traded to fill a hole we had on D? Gramps used to tell us that one around the fire after dinner.


Exactly, Gillis' strategy of trading away talented young prospects so he can keep playing his soft core players who can't get it done in crunch time has worked so well. Can't wait until Jensen is packaged with a draft pick to fetch Marek Zidlicky to shore up another 2nd round loss.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:03 PM

gillis has stated more than once that he decided o shut down manny last year, and that he let manny talk him out of it. he likely told manny in camp this year "ok, you have until kes is healthy to prove you can get your game back," and when that didn't happen, gillis put him on ir so that manny can keep collecting his paycheques. they'll find a new role for him by next year so he can retire.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:04 PM

I'm confused, is this another MG hate thread or a thread on Manny's condition and feelings about being placed on IR? I'm going to assume it's still the latter and say something I've been dying to say for a couple years now....

Hasn't anybody else noticed that Malhotra's eye has been half shut the ever since the incident occurred?!!


repeat after me... "Every CDC thread is a hate thread soon enough..."
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:10 PM

OK so we put a guy that's healthy enough to play on the ir ... because he cant play to the same standard?? can't we do that with Lu when he's 39 then? :S
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:10 PM

gillis has stated more than once that he decided o shut down manny last year, and that he let manny talk him out of it. he likely told manny in camp this year "ok, you have until kes is healthy to prove you can get your game back," and when that didn't happen, gillis put him on ir so that manny can keep collecting his paycheques. they'll find a new role for him by next year so he can retire.


That sounds about right.

Gillis also said that Manny is very proud and stubborn. His comments today, while perhaps undetstandable. were a surprise to me. Publicly declaring himself not at risk and capable to play is a distraction and shot at MG no matter how he softens it with "MG having my best interests at heart". It creates fodder for the press and a distraction for the team who he is skating with. Knowing he thinks he is fit to play and not being allowed to would be hard for the teammates who think highly of him.

One more episode in the Soap Opera that is the Nucks.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:11 PM

That sounds about right.

Gillis also said that Manny is very proud and stubborn. His comments today, while perhaps undetstandable. were a surprise to me. Publicly declaring himself not at risk and capable to play is a distraction and shot at MG no matter how he softens it with "MG having my best interests at heart". It creates fodder for the press and a distraction for the team who he is skating with. Knowing he thinks he is fit to play and not being allowed to would be hard for the teammates who think highly of him.

One more episode in the Soap Opera that is the Nucks.


EDIT: also disappointed that Manny couldn't see that he is a shadow of his former self and for the good of the team he should have stayed quiet.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:19 PM

thats gotta hurt
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:33 PM

Exactly, Gillis' strategy of trading away talented young prospects so he can keep playing his soft core players who can't get it done in crunch time has worked so well. Can't wait until Jensen is packaged with a draft pick to fetch Marek Zidlicky to shore up another 2nd round loss.


So what you're saying that Gillis keeps the "soft", untalented players? Like the Sedins, like Kesler, like Burrows, like Hansen, like Higgins, like Booth...?

Yeah, I can see how you would arrive at that conclusion from how Grabner plays. I used to enjoy watching him put huge body checks on the other team. His physical push-back was scary. And his fore-checking was really something to see..., sorry, I just can't keep saying this with a straight face:



Had to get that out of my system. The sky must be a very interesting colour in your world. :)

What other talented, young prospects has Gillis traded away? Hodgson? Yes, the kid has offensive upside. He also lacks defensive ability. And, IMO, he would have gotten out of town at his first opportunity, Kassian deal or not Kassian deal. He's also not known as a particularly "hard" player.

Shirokov? Yeah, he couldn't even make it in Florida, kind of like that Grabner guy.

If you were to knock Gillis about soft players then I might agree with you about him not bringing in enough guys to support these soft players. Kassian is a start in that direction. Drafting other, bigger guys than what was a typical Canuck pick is also a step in the right direction.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:37 PM

Why does he even care? He's still getting paid his slaray in full
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 07:15 PM

Gillis prides himself on being a GM that doesn't treat players like commodities only but like actual human beings. This is something I'm sure he picked up from his player agent days. Its a good philosophy but he may overcompensate at times such as deciding a player is unfit for the game under the guise that he is worried about the players health. His concern is genuine I'm sure but there may be a little too much handling of players with kid gloves.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 07:19 PM

Why does he even care? He's still getting paid his slaray in full

If only we were able to field a whole team that had this ^ mindset.











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Posted 27 February 2013 - 07:26 PM

I think Manny fracked up.

By publicly declaring he is still fit to play, this may force the league into looking closer at his eligibility to be on Injured Reserve and circumvent the cap. Nucks might be forced to waive Manny. I think he would get picked up.

Maybe this is what he wants???
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 07:41 PM

Keslers injured long term again and this team is thin at center. Ever since Malhotra was placed on IR we have sucked big time defensively, we need this guy in our lineup or at least some defensive center worth 2 million.

I say MG puts him back in the team. If the guy says he doesn't feel in danger on the ice then he doesn't, I don't think a general manager can make that call sitting up in the suites after watching 10 games played. That should always be the players call to make, or even a coach's, not the GM's.

Obviously MG had good intentions with this move and maybe he even wanted to free up some cap space, but by doing a classy player like Malhotra wrongly won't sit well with any of the other players either.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:04 PM

Standup guy. Has one good eye. Not condusive for NHL hockey. Pretty straightforward for the Canucks.

He could make one of the NHL finest on ice Officials though ? :lol: .......... Sorry i guess that wasn't funny. I'm gonna miss Manny, he had a huge heart.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:24 PM

He could make one of the NHL finest on ice Officials though ? :lol: .......... Sorry i guess that wasn't funny. I'm gonna miss Manny, he had a huge heart.


Nope. He's over-qualified. He still has one eye to see with.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:39 PM

Really? Give your head a shake.

If he really believed Manny could still play, do you think they would force him out rather than just put Volpatti on waivers?

No they wouldn't. Anyone who has watched Manny play since his injury knows that he's not the same player. His eye is effecting his ability to play, and someone had to tell him that it was risky for him to continue.


99% of us wanted him to play. Only a small % could see he just couldn't play at the level we need him to. MG knew when Kesler would be back and gave Manny one last kick at the can. Obviously he didn't make the cut. And if nobody could see that. Than you shouldn't be watching the Canucks.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:56 PM

Just like Peter Forsberg? Chris Chelios? Sometimes these guys have so much love for the game they just don't know when to walk away.

Don't underestimate the power of denial.

good points.

don't know whether manny should continue to play (we don't know what's really going on beyond what's released to us) but a forced retirement/firing/lay off IS traumatic. people get angry, go into depression or, in extreme cases, go postal. work is such a part of your definition of self that if it's taken away, you will grieve.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:03 PM

.... And that's why it's so awesome that the Canucks are still letting him practice and saying they want to find a way for him to continue to contribute instead of just slamming the door behind him now that he can't play.

Still, I hope they get him someone to talk to to help ease the transition. I have nothing but respect and good wishes for Manny!
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:51 AM

After watching the video on Malhotra speaking up for the first time, I was just wondering what others thoughts on this whole situation are?

Hearing Malhotra say that he believes different from Mike Gillis in that he feels physically fit, mentally there, and at no point like he is in danger is a little difficult to hear. I understand that Gillis has Malhotra's long term health in mind, but would this be a situation in which Gillis should have listened to Malhotra's plea? Throughout the whole video I felt horrible for Manny, not only because he's such a great character for this team and city, but because you can see how much he wants to play. I think this is the first time I've really ever seen Malhotra this distrought, and even upset with the decision made by the organization/Gillis.

Do you guys think that this was a mistake on Gillis' part, and by no means am I referring to Gillis as a bad GM. I still believe very much so that he is one of the best GM's we've had. Hopefully the discussion isn't just about wanting to fire Gillis, but on Malhotra's situation.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:53 AM

Do you have a link to this video you speak of?

EDIT: Of course it's on the home page. 20 seconds in and I'm already sad.

Edited by Mad Cow Disease, 28 February 2013 - 01:54 AM.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:53 AM

I just saw another topic similar to this one, I apologize for the overlapping as I was writing this one when the other one was posted. If need be, feel free to close this one moderators.
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