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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:40 AM

Another questionable move by Gillis.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:40 AM

One positive from this 'dire circumstance' is now Kass will be called on to drop 'em a lot more.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:40 AM

Why couldn't it have been Weise lol
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:41 AM

Those aren't the only options even if you make the assumption that the team didn't know Kesler was hurt (they did know or could have waited a day to make this move to confirm Kesler's condition).

You could have simply sent Schroeder down for a day to open up the spot (he is not subject to waivers). Then you could have activated Pinizotto... sent him on conditioning stint and recalled Schroeder in plenty of time for the next game.

The only reasonable answer is that they assumed Volpatti would clear.

If several teams put in claims you could have traded him for a 5th rounder or something.

Makes no sense unless there is a larger picture happening. Who do we have that is better for that role right now? Do we now not put Pinizotto on a conditioning stint as we need him in the lineup right away?


I am not convinced Schroeder is waiver exempt. Waiver rules have changed, for instance, there are no ore recall waivers.

http://www.mcsorleys...ules-explained/

Someone care to show me how I am not understanding Schroeders situation?

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:41 AM

Holy hell, this is rather sad CDC. We lost VOLPATTI, and now suddenly everyone is on the hate MG train. Oh wait, everyone was already on that train, but knowing this fan base it's only going to take one trade to make him the best GM in the league again.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:44 AM

Holy hell, this is rather sad CDC. We lost VOLPATTI, and now suddenly everyone is on the hate MG train. Oh wait, everyone was already on that train, but knowing this fan base it's only going to take one trade to make him the best GM in the league again.


Opinions change as teh situation does.

What about that don't you understand?!

Based on the limited information available, it looks like MG mis-judged Volpatti's attraction to other teams and lost an asset for nothing. Not cool!

If this turns out to be part of a bigger better deal, then that added information will obviously change the opinions here.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:44 AM

Weise is 3yrs younger and already has twice as many games under his belt as Volpatti. And he was drafted. Volpatti wasn't as is very fortunate that the Canucks gave him a shot.

Weise isn't all that great now, but he technically can pan out. While Volpatti never will. It's retarded to say Weise has zero upside. Heck, put him with the twins on the power play and he's the next Taylor Pyatt. lol


He can pan out, but I seriously doubt it. I see a guy who admittedly tries very hard, but the skill just isn't there. I know it happens occasionally, but rarely do players suddenly 'break out' from 4th liner to something better at 24. I just think we need role players on the 4th line, and Weise while he tries to fight a lot.. just doesn't fit that role.

I really hope MG knows what he's doing, because to me, it looks like we just gave away our main fighter for nothing.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:45 AM

Why couldn't it have been Weise lol

Liked Volpatti more, but Weise has got some hands... Volpatti had none. Still, sad to see him go. I'll never forget the one-punch drop he delivered to San Jose's Brad Winchester. :)

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:45 AM

Waive a 13th forward and people go nuts... unbelievable. The only reason people even give a rat's ass is because he's a BC native and yes, he always gave it his all.

Other than being a good hitter and a decent fighter? Nothing. Most of the time was lost in his own zone and couldn't make a play to save himself.

Weise may not be as good a fighter but offensively and defensively speaking he is markedly ahead.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:46 AM

Dang! Well, goodluck Volpatti! Our lost here.. Moving on..
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:47 AM

One positive from this 'dire circumstance' is now Kass will be called on to drop 'em a lot more.


Kass seems like he wants to be relied more on his offensive game then his physical game, I hope he develops his aggressive side more.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:47 AM

IIRC he has to be inactive for 7 days first.

No. IR can be put on once a player is injured or even retroactively. Otherwise a team couldn't make a roster spot available to bring in a replacement.

You may be thinking of the minimum time where he'd then have to stay on IR, which is 7 days, so it can't be a minor injury where he could return in 2 or 3 days. Sometimes if teams aren't sure how long a player will be out, they'll wait and then put them on retroactively to the start of the injury to allow for the extra roster spot. New Jersey just did this with Brodeur.

I am not convinced Schroeder is waiver exempt. Waiver rules have changed, for instance, there are no ore recall waivers.

http://www.mcsorleys...ules-explained/

Someone care to show me how I am not understanding Schroeders situation?

He played AHL & NHL games
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10-11 (61) Manitoba
11-12 (76) Chicago
12-13 (30) Chicago
12-13 (17) Vancouver
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He was exempt for 160 games

Well, he didn't have to clear waivers at the start of the season. He's now played 17 more NHL games, so unless he became waiver eligible in that time, he is still exempt.

Edited by elvis15, 28 February 2013 - 11:51 AM.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:47 AM

I am not convinced Schroeder is waiver exempt. Waiver rules have changed, for instance, there are no ore recall waivers.

http://www.mcsorleys...ules-explained/

Someone care to show me how I am not understanding Schroeders situation?

He played AHL & NHL games
09-10 (11) Manitoba
10-11 (61) Manitoba
11-12 (76) Chicago
12-13 (30) Chicago
12-13 (17) Vancouver
Total (195)
He was exempt for 160 games


Well as per the link you provided it makes it clear that it is NHL games that count and not AHL games.

Regardless, it is for the age reasons he is exempt still.


A player who signs at 18, 19 or 20 and then plays out his juniors eligibility, going pro (NHL or AHL) at 20, is most likely not going to play 160 NHL games before his three year exemption expires. For such players, the clock starts ticking at 20 (when they play their first AHL — or, less likely, NHL — game) and their exemptions run out when they’re 23.
(By which I mean, at the conclusion of the season ending in the year in which they turned 23.)

Schroeder is 22

Edited by Provost, 28 February 2013 - 11:50 AM.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:48 AM

I really dont understand this move. rather give a roster spot to a player who hasn't played one NHL game and has had two major shoulder injuries in the past 2 years over a fan favourite, guy who has the reputation of being everything that we have looked for in a fourth line player.

Sigh the sheer stupidity MG continues to conjure.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:48 AM

He can pan out, but I seriously doubt it. I see a guy who admittedly tries very hard, but the skill just isn't there. I know it happens occasionally, but rarely do players suddenly 'break out' from 4th liner to something better at 24. I just think we need role players on the 4th line, and Weise while he tries to fight a lot.. just doesn't fit that role.

I really hope MG knows what he's doing, because to me, it looks like we just gave away our main fighter for nothing.


Weise is willing to drop them and gets credit for that but he is not a good fighter. The team needed someone that can gain the momentum by fighting not lose it. Volpatti was far better suited to that role than Weise. If thei team kept Weise for his potential offensive upside, we're in really big doodoo.

THey wanted Kassian to be a tough intimidator but as soon as he showed offensive potential, they geared him back because he is too valuable to be in the box. WTF!! Then when he doesn't stand out, they bench him or limit him to 5 minutes a game. No wonder the kid looks lost out there and is pouting on the bench.

Starting to look like Nucks management is throwing darts in the dark to make decisions.

Edited by DIBdaQUIB, 28 February 2013 - 11:51 AM.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:49 AM

You realize that losing or barely drawing 6 fights isn't as good as winning the majority of 4, right? And wow, 1 extra point. Clearly, Dale Weise is awesome...


You realize 2 is half, not the majority of fights, right? That's the number HockeyFights.com says Volpatti won. While you're there, check out the opponents Weise took on...

You also realize that that one extra "wow" point was a game winning goal, right?

You realize Weise has more average ice time, meaning he's contributing to the team in other ways too? (Other than in hits, Volpatti gets that one.)

And you realize snarkiness at other forum users who didn't even say anything bad about Volpatti isn't going to change anything, right? Neither is hating on the players that we still have because so many of our "fans" seem to think players get infinitely better the second they no longer play for us.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:49 AM

This bs reminds me of a Nonis F...k up
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:49 AM

Canucks give Volpatti to Caps to make them happy, now Luongo for Ovi is a go!!


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:49 AM

I am not convinced Schroeder is waiver exempt. Waiver rules have changed, for instance, there are no ore recall waivers.

http://www.mcsorleys...ules-explained/

Someone care to show me how I am not understanding Schroeders situation?

He played AHL & NHL games
09-10 (11) Manitoba
10-11 (61) Manitoba
11-12 (76) Chicago
12-13 (30) Chicago
12-13 (17) Vancouver
Total (195)
He was exempt for 160 games


It only counts NHL games from what I understand:


http://thehockeywrit...l-waiver-rules/

EDIT: Sorry someone sort of mentioned this already.

Edited by Drummin' Canuck, 28 February 2013 - 11:51 AM.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:51 AM

No. IR can be put on once a player is injured or even retroactively. Otherwise a team couldn't make a roster spot available to bring in a replacement.

You may be thinking of the minimum time where he'd then have to stay on IR, which is 7 days, so it can't be a minor injury where he could return in 2 or 3 days. Sometimes if teams aren't sure how long a player will be out, they'll wait and then put them on retroactively to the start of the injury to allow for the extra roster spot. New Jersey just did this with Brodeur.


Too much lawyer crap for me to figure out :P fair enough
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:51 AM

Opinions change as teh situation does.

What about that don't you understand?!

Based on the limited information available, it looks like MG mis-judged Volpatti's attraction to other teams and lost an asset for nothing. Not cool!

If this turns out to be part of a bigger better deal, then that added information will obviously change the opinions here.


"Opinions change as the situation does" is an understatement. With every little thing that happens, this website is ready to blow the whole team up (I'm not saying it's the case with everyone, but as you can tell it is the case with a lot of the users)! If the Canucks lose? Trade Kesler, fire AV. Line-up Change? Fire AV. Volpatti got claimed off waivers?? fDSAHGSDGKDSHAF.

In the context of this moment, I'm betting that Volpatti would've fetched a 6th or 7th rounder. People just don't like the idea of losing someone for free so everyone is starting to panic about the status of this team.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:51 AM

Holy hell, this is rather sad CDC. We lost VOLPATTI, and now suddenly everyone is on the hate MG train. Oh wait, everyone was already on that train, but knowing this fan base it's only going to take one trade to make him the best GM in the league again.


Meh, I've always thought he was a little overrated and benefited on having the core already on this team......................
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:52 AM

Volpatti was a piece Vancouver does need, but to be honest Dale Weise is the better player, offers more to the team and has a better skillset. Volpatti was more of a fan favorite who brings a lot of energy which cannot be discounted.

The loss of Volpatti won't be the Canucks demise, not to mention its very possible Pinizzotto will be in Vancouver sooner than later, and he will be a definate upgrade on Volpatti.

Washington is a better fit for Volpatti too, so this for his fans should work out.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:52 AM

He can pan out, but I seriously doubt it. I see a guy who admittedly tries very hard, but the skill just isn't there. I know it happens occasionally, but rarely do players suddenly 'break out' from 4th liner to something better at 24. I just think we need role players on the 4th line, and Weise while he tries to fight a lot.. just doesn't fit that role.

I really hope MG knows what he's doing, because to me, it looks like we just gave away our main fighter for nothing.


If Volpatti was considered our main fighter, then we need a fighter. Look, I liked Volpatti, but never considered him a great fighter. And if he was our fighter, then how come in the 16 games he played vs the 19 Weise played, Weise answered the bell 6 times, and sites 4th in the league for fights, and Volpatti only 4, placing him 20th or so?

My point is neither were really fighters
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:52 AM

A damned disgrace. MG has lost the plot.

I really liked Volpatti and I am pissed!

He's almost the one guy in the team who's game HADN'T dropped and we lose him on waivers.



The only way this makes sense if he's replace with a serious heavyweight and judging by the Canucks Kumbaya management i'm not holding my breath
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:55 AM

Aaron is a player we all loved but he can be easily replaced by a bigger stronger version people. I liked his speed his grit but when he got his butt handed to him by Douglas Murray I felt we needed more toughness for that 4th line spot. Best wishes to you Aaron Nuck nation has love for you still you will be missed.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:55 AM

Waive a 13th forward and people go nuts... unbelievable. The only reason people even give a rat's ass is because he's a BC native and yes, he always gave it his all.

Other than being a good hitter and a decent fighter? Nothing. Most of the time was lost in his own zone and couldn't make a play to save himself.

Weise may not be as good a fighter but offensively and defensively speaking he is markedly ahead.


People go nuts because this team has the softest group of forwards and we just lost pretty much or only grinder/fighter asides from Kassian.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:56 AM

If Volpatti was considered our main fighter, then we need a fighter. Look, I liked Volpatti, but never considered him a great fighter. And if he was our fighter, then how come in the 16 games he played vs the 19 Weise played, Weise answered the bell 6 times, and sites 4th in the league for fights, and Volpatti only 4, placing him 20th or so?

My point is neither were really fighters


Well Konopka made Weise fight twice lmao. He once punched Winchester and usually wins most of his fights and hits like a freight train, but we don't need that... we need to get softer!

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:57 AM

Volpatti 1 point in 16 games
Weise 2 pts in 19 games

I think its safe to say, both aren't in the NHL to score...

That being said, Volpatti is a better hitter and fighter than Weise.

Weise however PKs

I'm not thrilled about this move as I feel like the team is too soft as is.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:02 PM

Volpatti 1 point in 16 games
Weise 2 pts in 19 games

I think its safe to say, both aren't in the NHL to score...

That being said, Volpatti is a better hitter and fighter than Weise.

Weise however PKs

I'm not thrilled about this move as I feel like the team is too soft as is.


In all honesty PK is more important than fighting.

I do agree we need a hitter who can play that is not Volpatti so I'm ok with losing him.
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