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#1 UFTcan

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 07:44 PM

When we already had a goalie to deal with no imminent trade destination clear. Now we have a huge hole in center.

So the question I ask is have we lost all trade leverage???

Every team out there knows we are extremely desperate, and we dont really have much to stand on as in demanding the quality back we need. Feels like we missed a big opportunity, and our rate on return will be severely diminished do to our now desperate situation.


Did we miss a lucrative window of opportunity?
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 07:47 PM

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We are not desperate.

We've had that huge hole for most of the abbreviated season and have manged to come through fairly unscathed. Nothing much has changed...there's no missing a window of opportunity if the opportunities didn't present themselves.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 07:49 PM

I agree we are not desperate. This shouldn't change anything in terms of value. GM's make trades for more then just the next 20 games... We played the first 15 without a second line center and we were one of the better teams in the league.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 07:50 PM

We haven't lost leverage as there are still some viable options in free agency if worse comes to worse.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 07:53 PM

i don't understand how we missed a big opportunity?...please explain.....?.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

I just feel we will overpay or not get the value we could of previously demanded, now that were under the gun.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:02 PM

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so we were 6-0 without kes

just so everyone knows , long as our d pulls there heads out of there asses and starts to play better we'll be fine


the only reason i would want a trade made before the deadline would be to give cory a legit run , without luo there , scary for us but needed for cory to succeed

gillis's hand is only forced if he chooses to make a trade now , if he just waits till the trade deadline he'll get good value

in the end the teams going after luo , need him more then we need anything back i know canucks fans seem to think otherwise but its true

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:05 PM

Id love to see us make a big trade, but Gillis hasnt shown us any signs of "trade panic" in the past, and I doubt that any short term circumstances will change any long term goals.

If the right deal comes along (according to him), he'll make it.... if not, he's said multipul times that he's happy with what he's got. that being said, i would be somewhat suprised if the trade deadline passed without any movement.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:05 PM

lol desperate the avs just matched calgary's offersheet for ror which means they can't trade him for a year and his next contract will be min 6.5mill. Lol sure glad MG didn't make that offer ROR isn't worth 6.5 mill so...... the avs just matched an offer that screws them over in a season and a half. Personally I think they should have taken the 1st and the 3rd because they would have been so much better off in a season or 2. Calgary's 1st will be a top 10 for sure. if not top 5.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:09 PM

i don't understand how we missed a big opportunity?...please explain.....?.


Trade Luongo over the summer or draft... ?

GMs have called Gillis' bluff and he will be forced to make a deal he doesnt want because theres no way we can keep Luongo for next season.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:25 PM

Well it's not like we're gonna miss the playoffs, not with this division. Kesler out = Ewing Theory. We are about to get on a roll here, LA will play us tough but we ought to win this one.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:29 PM

We were on a 6 game winning streak. Kesler came back and we have bee playing like crap because the team thinks we can play a different style. Watch with Kesler out we will start winning again not because Ebbett is better but the team plays better.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:30 PM

We are not desperate.

We've had that huge hole for most of the abbreviated season and have manged to come through fairly unscathed. Nothing much has changed...there's no missing a window of opportunity if the opportunities didn't present themselves.


this is so incorrect.

the canucks are buyers this trade tradeline. 29 teams know what they have to offer, and what they want from them. Canucks have 2 options...stay pat and get bounced in the first or second round again, or make a move. Problem is, they have no leverage, no prospects, and besides schneider and the sedins, no trade baits.

Whether you would like to believe it or not, the canucks are desperate. They are being exposed in the WC, and the only reason they have a winning record is due to 4 teams in the division being even worse than them.

MG definitely lost any leverage he had. Every team will be ready to lowball.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:35 PM

I am not sure how the whole Volpatti situation has everyone in a tailspin.

Options we have include:

1) A goalie trade. I just think it msy not happen till the off-season. Yes, I think Lou will be traded, but part of me thinks he is willing to hang around because this team is still a contender

2) A player trade near trade deadline. Several teams will be in fire sale mode, and may be willing to trade off salary.

3) Free agency. Free agent centers include Dominic Moore, Daymond Langkow, Jason Arnott, Brendan Morrison, Jeremy Colliton, Patrick Rissmiller and Blair Betts off the top of my head.

Right Wing, another area we are weak in, Radek Dvorak, Trent Hunter, and, lol Byron Bitz

Just saying there are guys available in a pinch without selling the farm
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:36 PM

Probably go back to Burrows in the middle, and kassian with the twin. We have seen it work already this season. Gillis has leverage until the summer when the cap will likely force him to make a move or drop other players (ballard and booth unless they both cement themselves as 4 million dollars players). Kesler gets back in a month and we once again become one of the deepest teams in the NHL. He makes a few moves like he did these past trade deadlines bringing in some 3/4 line talent and the canucks dont really have anything to worry about
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:53 PM

MG can not panic and realize this team might not have what it takes to win it all and when he does pull the trigger on a Luongo deal.
He needs the players that are coming our way, be able to help us 2-4 years down the road. The Sedin's can play at this level forever.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:58 PM

I think Kesler is traded this deadline. He's played his last game
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:04 PM

I think Kesler is traded this deadline. He's played his last game


r u kiddin' me??? this is just plain ridiculous lol :bored:
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:08 PM

this is so incorrect.

the canucks are buyers this trade tradeline. 29 teams know what they have to offer, and what they want from them. Canucks have 2 options...stay pat and get bounced in the first or second round again, or make a move. Problem is, they have no leverage, no prospects, and besides schneider and the sedins, no trade baits.

Whether you would like to believe it or not, the canucks are desperate. They are being exposed in the WC, and the only reason they have a winning record is due to 4 teams in the division being even worse than them.

MG definitely lost any leverage he had. Every team will be ready to lowball.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:12 PM

I think Kesler is traded this deadline. He's played his last game


Why? Please explain.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:15 PM

I think a creative way the Canucks could get a player at the deadline is to be involved in a three-way trade. The Canucks don't really have young assets or players to trade for a roster addition, but in a three-way move, that could be a null point.

Just a thought.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:20 PM

I think Kesler is traded this deadline. He's played his last game


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:40 PM

I think we're leaning more towards the desperate side of things.

If not, than we would all be comfortably thinking that we'll make it to the cup final.
Ask yourself, do you honestly think that we are better than the Blackhawks? Bruins?

Of course not, something has to be done to make this team the absolute best in the league (or at least in the playoffs) in order to win.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:47 PM

I agree we are not desperate. This shouldn't change anything in terms of value. GM's make trades for more then just the next 20 games... We played the first 15 without a second line center and we were one of the better teams in the league.

There in lies the problem. They get buy somehow, but they ain't going anywhere people. Look at the other teams, they are bigger, tougher, and have better coaches. The refs don't even respect Canucks coach. He doesn't back up his team. But shrugs his shoulders when they lose. He says he doesn't know what happened, or something like that. He often kinda throws his team, or some players under the bus, so to speak.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:49 PM

I think Kesler is traded this deadline. He's played his last game

I'll bet you are right.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:06 PM

We are not desperate.

We've had that huge hole for most of the abbreviated season and have manged to come through fairly unscathed. Nothing much has changed...there's no missing a window of opportunity if the opportunities didn't present themselves.


I think we might have desperate looking "top-2" defensive pairings...
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:58 PM

I think Kesler is traded this deadline. He's played his last game

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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:29 PM

When we already had a goalie to deal with no imminent trade destination clear. Now we have a huge hole in center.

So the question I ask is have we lost all trade leverage???

Every team out there knows we are extremely desperate, and we dont really have much to stand on as in demanding the quality back we need. Feels like we missed a big opportunity, and our rate on return will be severely diminished do to our now desperate situation.


Did we miss a lucrative window of opportunity?


What "lucrative window" did we miss? How are we desperate? What trade leverage is lost?

Gillis does things to improve the team now and long term. If the right moves aren't there, he won't make them

We're not desperate. We will make the playoffs, if by virtue of playing in the NorthWest alone. We can afford to be patient and not make rash trades that will hurt the future.

This team is fine if Kesler is healthy. It's just plain bad luck that he broke his foot. Injuries can happen to any team. It sucks Kesler is hurt again, but it happens.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:36 PM

Heres my take. Ballard is playing well. He is showcasing although he has a high cap hit he is still a solid defender. Look at all the other seasons he's played and his ice time has increased significantly. This is the same thing they did for Cody Hodgson (My opinion as he wanted to leave anyways *Speculation*). I think he will go. Booth, even though I like the guy, needs to go. He hasn't really been around much to show his worth and thats ok. Maybe he is a good player but not for us. I think hes a possibility to go.

I do believe the Canucks are on their heels. I do believe we will finish in the top 8 in the Western Conference, head to playoffs, get past the first round by a hair or be eliminated altogether. Luongo gets traded in the off season and we will pick up and let go what we can in the off season. I think the trade we see, if any come to pass, before the TD is going to be a complete shocker. I dont think anyone is going to see it coming and when it does there will be some outrage from the fanbase...

Just to add to my thoughts here, The Capitals signing Volpatti isnt as bad as people are making it out to be. We have numbers for 4th line guys. Yes, It sucks he of all players is gone but to me, Volpatti isnt going to be that guy to help win us a cup if you understand what Im saying. Hes a 4th line grinder. Not a Ryan Kesler or Chris Higgins. I dont think people should be bent out of shape because of it.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:38 PM

Just curious, how much time is left on Conolly's big 4.5-4.75 mill contract? I'm wondering if it might be worth taking a shot there, even with his injury issues and lack of production last year. He's got something to prove, and maybe having two injury prone forwards will make one good one? :P

I'm thinking that when it comes time to renegotiate for Conolly, he will become a cheap 2nd line option when/if Kesler is injured. Correct me if I'm wrong but this year or next is his last for that much money?

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