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#31 ALTtimegreat

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:28 AM

no shame in losing to kassian..hopefully this guy got some speed to go along with his big body.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:28 AM

bold move..... :rolleyes:
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#33 Heretic

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:28 AM

Hello?

http://forum.canucks...laimed-sestito/
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:28 AM

Two years younger than Volpatti and 1 more NHL goal :frantic: :frantic: :frantic:
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:28 AM

I made a thread to acquire this guy a few years ago back when he was with Columbus.

http://bleacherrepor...adelphia-flyers

He scored 53 goals in 79 games his last year in the OHL so it seems like he has some decent mitts. Hits hard, skates well for a big guy, fights ALOT (even if he isn't the best at it). Willing to stand up for teammates as well.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:30 AM

Hello?

http://forum.canucks...laimed-sestito/


My bad. For whatever reason, didn't even look in the Trades and Signings thread. Lock this one up.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:30 AM

Considering the Canucks announced they moved Pinizzotto back to the roster and sent him down on a conditioning stint after Volpatti was claimed, I think that actually confirms it rather than debunks it.


You could have done the Pinizotto move without waiving Volpatti. Simply wait and call up Ebbett a day later. Or send Schroeder down for a day (not subject to waivers) in order to activate Pinizotto for the conditioning stint. Heck... they could have used the IR conditioning stint where you don't even need to activate the player to assign him to the Wolves.

If they wanted to keep Volpatti on the roster, they had lots of options. They didn't think it was worth doing any of these and weren't terribly worried about the risk of losing Vopatti.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:30 AM

Sweeet.

I wouldn't say it's an upgrade, but i feel like GMMG truthfully believed Volpatti wouldn't be claimed, as stupid as that sounds. It's not a shot at who's better, it's just Volpatti was claimed when GMMG thought he wouldn't be.

The guy's huge, scored 53 Goals in the OHL.. Hopefully he can chip in more than Volpatti's 3 goals in like 60 games or something.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:31 AM


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:31 AM

Nice!
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:34 AM

ala "Har - Old" , maybe now it will be, "Tom - Mie"

Glad to have a heavyweight again.

Only looked at hockeyfights.com and of course, Zack's tilt, but he has good size and can fight.

Hopefully he can skate and score too.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:35 AM

Prefer volpatti ans obviously a lot of other Gms do to if he got picked up by the 27th place team
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:37 AM

Younger, bigger, better fighter, and better NHL/AHL stats than Volpatti sounds like a decent upgrade to me. Always a nice feeling that we have a big tough guy on the team, teams will think twice now about running our guys. Good move on paper IMO. We will see. Hopefully he's in the lineup tomorrow against LA.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:38 AM

7 points in 34 actually don't sound bad.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:39 AM

Younger, bigger, better fighter, and better NHL/AHL stats than Volpatti sounds like a decent upgrade to me. Always a nice feeling that we have a big tough guy on the team, teams will think twice now about running our guys. Good move on paper IMO. We will see. Hopefully he's in the lineup tomorrow against LA.

Nope.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:40 AM

Another crappy MG move. The stock in this team just keeps dropping and dropping. He was laughed at in the UK league.

Makes you wonder if he was suitable for a PT winning team like the Canucks why did Washington not pick him up instead of Volpatti?

I now dread every trade/signing this guy makes.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:42 AM

Play him with the sedins!
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:44 AM

Younger, bigger, better fighter, and better NHL/AHL stats than Volpatti sounds like a decent upgrade to me. Always a nice feeling that we have a big tough guy on the team, teams will think twice now about running our guys. Good move on paper IMO. We will see. Hopefully he's in the lineup tomorrow against LA.


Personally I think we would be better off having Vandermeer in the lineup. Sestito is not a great fighter... a game guy, but not inspiring any fear in opponents.

Vandermeer can play forward or defence so is useful as a depth guy. He is also actually a legit heavyweight.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:44 AM

Devils return Tim Sestito to Albany. Ryan Carter (concussion) activated from injured reserve.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:45 AM

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:46 AM

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Another crappy MG move. The stock in this team just keeps dropping and dropping. He was laughed at in the UK league.

Makes you wonder if he was suitable for a PT winning team like the Canucks why did Washington not pick him up instead of Volpatti?

I now dread every trade/signing this guy makes.


You're the one that wanted a tough guy. A bit of "push back".

He's no worse than Volpatti. Not much better either, but we haven't got worse as a team. Some people are never happy.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:46 AM

Sestito is garbage. My grandmother could beat him up. Useless pick up.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:48 AM

Well, at least now a good portion of CDC will shut up about it.

That is not how the CDC works....
Volpatti brought an interesting dynamic to the team trying to hit as much a s possible and could win fights.

As of right now we have not seen the new guy play for us so the future is uncertain and well the CDC needs to "explain" in a "few higly thoought out discussions" why their "reasoning" is more sound then the other kids in the sand box /sarcasm

Sestito is big but so was oreo and well time will tell. sidenote he did make it down the waiver wire to us which says something... not sure exactly what but again time will tell.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:48 AM

Well there goes the belief that Volpatti was sent down to free up a roster space.

If we can pick someone else up, it means we sent him down because we thought we could do better.

Sestito isn't really much different... bigger version, not a an accomplished fighter though... at least as a heavyweight.


Not true.

Space had to be made for SP because of a provision that held he first had to be activated onto the Canucks' roster before he could be sent to Chicago.

A spot had to be opened on the big roster, not within the organization at large.


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:48 AM

new teammates Tom Sestito and Zack Kassian have a history.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:50 AM

You could have done the Pinizotto move without waiving Volpatti. Simply wait and call up Ebbett a day later. Or send Schroeder down for a day (not subject to waivers) in order to activate Pinizotto for the conditioning stint. Heck... they could have used the IR conditioning stint where you don't even need to activate the player to assign him to the Wolves.

If they wanted to keep Volpatti on the roster, they had lots of options. They didn't think it was worth doing any of these and weren't terribly worried about the risk of losing Vopatti.

It seems like you didn't read the rest of my post.

And he can't be on IR and also on a conditioning stint, he has to come back to the active roster first then be sent down for conditioning. If you can play (even if it's in the AHL), you aren't injured. If you aren't injured, you can't be on IR. We needed a roster space to bring him off IR, whatever you think of the other options for making that happen.

I'll say this, I don't think they would have explored the Schroeder down and up option if they felt Volpatti might clear, and it's quite possible they didn't know for sure if Kesler would be actually injured to clear up his roster space using IR by the time they had to make a move to get this all done. They couldn't hold Pinizzotto on IR, so they had to make a roster move and I think it's just really unfortunate timing that it was so close to finding out Kesler was actually injured enough to qualify to go on IR himself.

In the end, we've essentially traded Volpatti for Sestito and worked in the transfer of Pinizzotto to the Wolves in the process.

Not true.

Space had to be made for SP because of a provision that held he first had to be activated onto the Canucks' roster before he could be sent to Chicago.

A spot had to be opened on the big roster, not within the organization at large.

Yup, mentioned it on the first page. After Volpatti was claimed, they brought Pinizzotto off of IR and moved him down to the Wolves for conditioning last night, then claimed Sestito (last night? this morning?).

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:51 AM

Now they should sit a defenseman who is sucking wind in his own zone (I'm looking at you Edler) and bring up Jim Vandermeer. Having beasts like that on the ice will allow us to throw the opposition around for a change. It's time the Canucks were ready for war. If we can't do it on the scoresheet, let's beat everyone else into submission!

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:52 AM

i liek his name sestito
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:53 AM

Now they should sit a defenseman who is sucking wind in his own zone (I'm looking at you Edler) and bring up Jim Vandermeer. Having beasts like that on the ice will allow us to throw the opposition around for a change. It's time the Canucks were ready for war. If we can't do it on the scoresheet, let's beat everyone else into submission!


The "beast" that is Jim Vandermeer is regularly getting danced around in the AHL. I would know, since I follow the Wolves on a regular basis. If you don't mind seeing a couple goals against for every fight Vandermeer engages in, then I guess you'll be happy.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:53 AM

It seems like you didn't read the rest of my post.

And he can't be on IR and also on a conditioning stint, he has to come back to the active roster first then be sent down for conditioning. If you can play (even if it's in the AHL), you aren't injured. If you aren't injured, you can't be on IR. We needed a roster space to bring him off IR, whatever you think of the other options for making that happen.


Unless something changed in the new CBA (nothing in the changes summary indicates that it has) you can be sent on a conditioning stint while still on IR. From what I understand the two week conditioning stint actually still uses a roster spot for the entire time of the assignment, unlike the IR conditioning stint where you are not counted against the roster.

There are lots of complications with Pinizotto based on his status when injured in training camp... but regardless if the organization was worried much about losing Volpatti they could have done the alternatives I mentioned. I know you said you don't like them much.. but they are minor annoyances compared with losing an asset you covet (unless you don't really covet that asset much at all).

We had several days between games, so plenty of time to juggle other options in order to avoid waiving Volpatti.

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Edited by Provost, 01 March 2013 - 11:03 AM.

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