whytelight Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 So, we've all be complaining how we don't have big bodies in our line-up. That is a fact. Compared to other cup-contenders, we don't have the bodies we need to compete. Here is the problem: The teams that have the big bodies have big bodies that can actually play hockey. The teams with big bodies are comfortable playing them with their star players because they actually make an offensive contribution to the line. Our big bodies, at this moment, really don't. Burrows is 10X the hockey player Kassian is and that is why he is on the top line. If Kassian shows the hustle, quickness, drive, and passion that Burrows does, he'd be on the top line. A big protecting body can't be a line-mate with the Sedins if he can't score goals, defend his zone, set up plays, take his man, and back check. The big bodies on other teams' first and second lines actually play hockey and make contributions. Right now, ours don't. To make matters worse, our big bodies (4th line) are not a scoring threat. It is a bad sign when other teams' 4th lines are scoring on our 1st lines. It's a bad sign when we can't trust our 4th line to chip in 60 combined points let alone defend our own and bash the hell out of the other teams' 1st line. Already people are commenting on how we'd put our newcomer, Sestito, up with the top 6. Are you kidding me? Is he an actual hockey player? The Sedins need a hockey player with them......not a trunk to bounce pucks off. A talented, hockey-playing big body will cost us. And, unfortunately, GMMG does not seem to want to pay. Maybe he's looking at downtown Surrey for some big bodies.....they're free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magician Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Van Riemsdyk would be a nice addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Go ahead, say big bodies one more time. That'll sell your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whytelight Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 See, we'd have to give up Luongo (if TO even wants him) and probably Tanev or Burrows. RL by himself will not leave for the team for a star to come back. Really, we should be happy with picks/prospects for a RL deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogolol Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 A talented, hockey-playing big body will cost us. And, unfortunately, GMMG does not seem to want to pay. Maybe he's looking at downtown Surrey for some big bodies.....they're free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susraiders Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I was expecting something to do with perpetual motion. I am actually disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Go ahead, say big bodies one more time. That'll sell your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnihilist Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 its about drafting. Burke, Nonis, and early Gillis: take the most skilled guy available. guess what? the most skilled guy at their picking spot was small, cause everyone else had passed on the "skilled but small" guy. It is only recently that Gilles has changed his tactic (after the SCF loss) and looked for "skilled and big" players. Aka Jensen that year. But we aren't going to see the dividends for a few more years. Does that mean we never win the cup? Depends... if they call the game based on the new (or old now) rules, we have a great chance. Else we have no chance. So... you know what that means... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicNuckleHead09 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I was expecting something to do with perpetual motion. I am actually disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Go ahead, say big bodies one more time. That'll sell your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmotamed Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 We're really beefing the squad up, but potentially losing roster sports for secondary scoring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Kassian is pretty much a rookie. imho He is ready for a top-6 role now but he needs to be put with the twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 OP has it: "A talented, hockey-playing big body will cost us. And, unfortunately, GMMG does not seem to want to pay."OP I might add that other GM's don't buy what Gillis is offering.One would think with Luo as the trade bait this would not be so difficult a task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How the west was won Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I see where you are going. But you have missed the point. The perpetual problem with the canucks is they are not fighters. Now I'm not talking about dropping the gloves, im talking about winning the little battles. There are players on this team that can lay devastating hits but choose not to. There are players on this team that can play gritty and be very tough to play against but choose not to. The mentality is to hurt the other team on the scoreboard. But I don't get that mentality at all. You don't want to hurt the team at all, you want to beat them. If you beat them to the puck and off the puck you will beat them on the scoreboard. Dropping the gloves does one thing and that is take the guys out of the game that are willing to fight. The Canucks do not need players who will fight for 30 seconds and then sit in the box for 5 minutes, that is not toughness. The Canucks need to change their mentality and fight for their right to win, not back down and try to win. This involves beating the other team at every opportunity available not just when the gloves come off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyzer Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Go ahead, say big bodies one more time. That'll sell your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 http://mirtle.blogsp...ht-and-age.html isn't it funny how we are not as light or small as many on the boards assume? In fact we are heavier and taller than Boston and Chicago Maybe we should stop fixating on actual size and think about why we play so small when we are actually a pretty big team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I agree with TOMapleLaughs Kassian should be playing with the Sedins. This makes the other lines better as Burrows moves to the second line and so on. . Especially with Kesler out this is key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Someone say big bodies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 BIG BODIES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I see where you are going. But you have missed the point. The perpetual problem with the canucks is they are not fighters. Now I'm not talking about dropping the gloves, im talking about winning the little battles. There are players on this team that can lay devastating hits but choose not to. There are players on this team that can play gritty and be very tough to play against but choose not to. The mentality is to hurt the other team on the scoreboard. But I don't get that mentality at all. You don't want to hurt the team at all, you want to beat them. If you beat them to the puck and off the puck you will beat them on the scoreboard. Dropping the gloves does one thing and that is take the guys out of the game that are willing to fight. The Canucks do not need players who will fight for 30 seconds and then sit in the box for 5 minutes, that is not toughness. The Canucks need to change their mentality and fight for their right to win, not back down and try to win. This involves beating the other team at every opportunity available not just when the gloves come off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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