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#1 billabong

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 02:56 PM

to van: hendricks, wolski

to wsh: raymond, ebbett

van gets a gritty 3rd line center who is 62.2% on draws this season and a enigmatic playmaker in wolski


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:00 PM

I think this is super.
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:05 PM

weise is better the sestito and lapierre is better then hendricks if u switch those two up i like it

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:06 PM

I'm actually enjoying watching mayray play this year, and at the same time he is bumping up his trade value. Gotta give to get so not a bad trade.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:19 PM

I get the feeling that if this trade does happen and Raymond flourishes there, people will grumble about him being moved like they did when Grabner was dealt.

I like the Hendricks component (big, tough, 4th line center candidate) but been Wojtek's wolskfully inconsistent, which explains why he's been getting moved around so often. At least Wolski's bigger than Ebbett but it's debatable whether he's a better player than Raymond, that you would so confidently plug him into the 2nd unit. On most teams he's gone from 2nd line to 4th line and out (even with the Caps now).

IMO,
Raymond (when healthy and with Schroeder) > Wolski (inconsistent) )(Vancouver could end up with a glorified spare in Wolski)
Ebbett (very similar in value to) Hendricks, each can provide something to bottom 6 units, though Andrew has some speed and skill, while Matt provides toughness and F/O ability. Very much a wash.

I just get the feeling that they'll grumble about the net value of this move worse than they did about the Florida deal, if this deal did happen. If we were going to get them (given Washington tanks), I'd rather trade a 2nd or 3rd for Wolski than Raymond.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 04:05 PM

I dont mind moving Raymond, because we have 2 younger players that will need a roster spot and will save us a couple million where as keeping raymond and resigning him.

Raymond for Wolski and if we can get a pick all the power to MG

Wolski has had over 60 points in his career. he is quite big too 6'3 215, Yes he hasnt done too much recently but potential is there hes only 27.

Wolski reg season stats: 443gp 262 pts = 0.59 ppg
Raymond reg season: 347pg 165 pts = 0.47 ppg

Wolski Playoff stats: 29gp 17pts. Not bad
raymond playoff: 51gp 16pts.... wow big difference

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 04:11 PM

I get the feeling that if this trade does happen and Raymond flourishes there, people will grumble about him being moved like they did when Grabner was dealt.

I like the Hendricks component (big, tough, 4th line center candidate) but been Wojtek's wolskfully inconsistent, which explains why he's been getting moved around so often. At least Wolski's bigger than Ebbett but it's debatable whether he's a better player than Raymond, that you would so confidently plug him into the 2nd unit. On most teams he's gone from 2nd line to 4th line and out (even with the Caps now).

IMO,
Raymond (when healthy and with Schroeder) > Wolski (inconsistent) )(Vancouver could end up with a glorified spare in Wolski)
Ebbett (very similar in value to) Hendricks, each can provide something to bottom 6 units, though Andrew has some speed and skill, while Matt provides toughness and F/O ability. Very much a wash.

I just get the feeling that they'll grumble about the net value of this move worse than they did about the Florida deal, if this deal did happen. If we were going to get them (given Washington tanks), I'd rather trade a 2nd or 3rd for Wolski than Raymond.


Hendricks is a much more accomplished player than Ebbett because of his ablitiy to play the physical game and win draws, Ebbett's numbers are inflated from playing with high end players for a partial season with Anh. Ebbett is a decent depth forward who can fill in, where I see Hendricks as a full time 4th liner on many teams.

I think Wolski is done in this league though, Raymond does a lot of small things really well (PK, breakout, PP point, defensivly aware) he just doesn't seem to get the points. Wolski if he isn't scoring, isn't contributing.

While Hendricks is an upgrade I don't see it worthwhile to lose Raymond.




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