uber_pwnzor Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I guess i can kind of see it. but I think it has a lot to do with his shoot first style of play and the lack of and playmaking wingers on the team minus Daniel. Shoot first players are the hardest to work with chemistry wise IMO. I know they'd never try it but it could be interesting to try 22-33-17 21-45-14 20-40-9 7-acquisition or pinni if he works out-36 29 / 32 against bigger teams Could provide a more balanced lineup for the roles of the players we have, especially if AV wants to match top lines like last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonz Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 The Canucks are better with Kesler in the lineup. I don't see how having an Ebbett or Sesito over a Kesler is better. That being said, its amazing how the team is winning with Kesler out if the lineup as compared to him being on it. And this has nothing to do with Keslers play bc he does have points on the pp and little on 5 in 5. It's just the other players trailed off in production when he came. I think rayray, Schroeder and kassian trailed off a lot. So I guess u can say it has an affect on the chemistry of the team by adding another player into the lineup. But it can all be a concidence, and kesler comes back healthy and everyone is producing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonz Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I like this a lot! I really think that Burrows and Schroeder would work great together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menace Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 The acquisition of Tostito is the reason for the Canucks going into beast mode....oh I mean Sestito!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fagin Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Does everyone here not realize he played every game with a broken foot?... How well would anyone play hockey with a broken foot... Probably not their best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Not a statement but a question put forward for discussion. Obviously Kesler is one of the best (if not the best) athletes on the Canucks but does the team have better all around chemistry when he is not in the line up? If so what is the trick to Kesler better fitting in the line up? Should Gillis look for another center and have Kesler move to the wing? He really came into his own playing beside Sundin. I believe it was Sammy and Raymond who played beside him during his 40 goal season? Maybe we just miss a good veteran presence...someone like Sammy or Sundin? Thoughts? Flame away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specter's Vengeance Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Does everyone here not realize he played every game with a broken foot?... How well would anyone play hockey with a broken foot... Probably not their best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whytelight Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Losing Manny and gaining Kesler happened at once. The team was thrown a curve ball and everyone had to adjust to new positions and responsibilities overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyking Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 ....Let's not exaggerate his injury!He has a small bone fracture (crack) in one of the smaller bones in his foot.So small it didn't show up in the first x-rays.Most of us wouldn't have had it x-rayed as there is no cure,it heals itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fagin Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 that's an under-exaggeration it was small enough to be not seen on an x-ray but big enough to cause pain. Don't kid your self if it hurt to walk most of us would have had an x-ray done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyfan90 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Kesler is a good player for sure and you'd rather have him over players like Ebbet and Sestito. However, I really think he needs to look at himself in the mirror personally. He's over his head ever since the Nashville series and thinks he can do it all himself whenever he plays. Also, he really needs to clean up his act and get it together especially with the diving. It is really hurting the Canucks image. I would definitely not want to trade him because of the fact of how good we all know he can be. You don't win the Selke trophy just by luck. Ask Daystuk! However if he doesn't clean up his on ice antics and plays a team game, I wouldn't be pissed to see him being traded. He's at his prime right now, its now or never for him. In terms of injuries, I do fear that he has become very injury prone, but I hope I am wrong in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWheeler Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Kesler out of line up (start up season): 8-2-2 record Kesler returns: 2-3-2 record Kesler out of line up again: 1-0 record. My opinions on the situation: 1) Kesler and Raymond need to STAY away from each other. I absolutely hate them both playing together. Raymond playing with a playmaking C like Schroeder is much more team effective than having Raymond play on a line with more people like him. 2) Kesler has had 2 major off season surgeries and is now injured again. He is playing in WAY too many game situations: Powerplay, 2nd line, penalty kill. Coaches/management need to start protecting their assets better and start giving some of these responsibilities to other, less expensive and important players. I'm not a huge Kesler fan. But a big part of that is because he keeps playing with players who are way too similar to his style of play. Also the fact he's probably going to ruin his body with the many minutes he gets and style of play. Can't forget the diving too. I just can't respect divers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raph Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Kesler is a great player, however, I do agree that he is not providing good chemistry with the team. Ever since he got his 40 goal season, he's been a puck hog and trying to play solo superstar like Ovechkin. He also plays far too many minutes a game. Kesler is kind of stuck between being a goal scorer and a shutdown player. Sure, guys like Toews can handle doing both, but Kesler needs to stick with one. I think Kesler should focus on going back to shutdown guy taking defensive zone faceoffs with Higgins and Hansen. If he plays that role well, the points will come naturally. He can also play on the #1 PP with Sedins. However, I think Kesler has too much pride to be going back to a shutdown role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonfruits Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Kesler out of line up (start up season): 8-2-2 record Kesler returns: 2-3-2 record Kesler out of line up again: 1-0 record. My opinions on the situation: 1) Kesler and Raymond need to STAY away from each other. I absolutely hate them both playing together. Raymond playing with a playmaking C like Schroeder is much more team effective than having Raymond play on a line with more people like him. 2) Kesler has had 2 major off season surgeries and is now injured again. He is playing in WAY too many game situations: Powerplay, 2nd line, penalty kill. Coaches/management need to start protecting their assets better and start giving some of these responsibilities to other, less expensive and important players. I'm not a huge Kesler fan. But a big part of that is because he keeps playing with players who are way too similar to his style of play. Also the fact he's probably going to ruin his body with the many minutes he gets and style of play. Can't forget the diving too. I just can't respect divers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thema Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Can't forget the diving too. I just can't respect divers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fagin Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 kesler dives no more than any other player in the nhl and is nowhere near the amount of dives as the some of the more notorious divers such as riberio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahf149 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Yup, I said it before the LA game. The Canucks lost every game with him in the line up and they were kicking butt when he was out, and then hes injured again and they win again...umm yeah..Kesler is so over rated, and nobody can play with him, which screws up the chemistry of the team. I wish they would just trade him and get it over with. Never been a Kesler fan. They also dont get any penalty calls go their way when hes playing too..cuz the refs know hes a diver...Pls get rid of this douche! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Complete mixed feelings regarding Kesler, but if the right deal were there, I'd do it. Would have done it last year, before his NTC, for the right player/combination of players (ie. Eberle) Philly has always wanted Kesler, who signed their offersheet. Kesler for Couturier and a 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobmckenzie Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 The other players do better without Kesler for some reason... I think it is cause they get to touch the puck when Kes is out of the lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoaltenderInterference Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Sometimes I think Kesler is too selfish to be a centreman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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