agm89 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Usually I like to read Kerry's column, though this one not so much. None of his examples come close to what we saw last night. http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/kerry_fraser/?id=417373 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 As a Canucks fan I'm fine with the call on AV - glad he showed some emotion for a change. What I'm not fine with is Hartley did the same earlier - even called the ref "an amateur" and swore and got nothing. Consistency is all I want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Go ahead and call the bench minor, refs. Just make sure you do it to every coach whenever they say something. Dont be selective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 As a Canucks fan I'm fine with the call on AV - glad he showed some emotion for a change. What I'm not fine with is Hartley did the same earlier - even called the ref "an amateur" and swore and got nothing. Consistency is all I want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotecanuck Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Pure propaganda from the NHL spin zone. How could there be a 40 paragraph explanation and justification without at least mentioning the antics of Hartley in the same bloody game? Why, because there simply is no other explanation other than game management and bias. AV is the closest thing to a mute you will ever find in an NHL coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Typical, he doesn't want to admit that the ref screwed that up, so he instead defends him because he doesn't want to get fined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Well, that's about as much BS as the call itself.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I hated Fraser when he reffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedBeats™2.0 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Yep. Absolutely confirmed that refs base calls on forged relationships. Id like to know why Torts is never called for the same. He is the absolute worst offender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WL Canuck Fan Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Pure propaganda from the NHL spin zone. How could there be a 40 paragraph explanation and justification without at least mentioning the antics of Hartley in the same bloody game? Why, because there simply is no other explanation other than game management and bias. AV is the closest thing to a mute you will ever find in an NHL coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kass9 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Lol Kerry Fraser, never liked him, wasn't he also anti-Canucks? Stupid brotherhood of blind men (what an insult to actual blind men). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Each game situation is unique, as are the personalities of the individuals involved. Working relationships are forged over time between every referee and coach; some are positive while others are just tolerable. The specific manner with which a coach voices or displays his displeasure for a referee's decision, combined with an official's tolerance level, will dictate the response and eventual outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Down by the River Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Kerry Fraser's column is one of my favourite on TSN. He doesn't always side with the refs. He says what he thinks, and I like that. I simply disagree with Fraser on this one though. Consistency is the hot word of the day when it comes to describing refs. In this case, the refs weren't even consistent within one game. Hartley is swearing directly at the refs and there is no penalty, not even a warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WL Canuck Fan Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Yep. Absolutely confirmed that refs base calls on forged relationships. Id like to know why Torts is never called for the same. He is the absolute worst offender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Typical, he doesn't want to admit that the ref screwed that up, so he instead defends him because he doesn't want to get fined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 LOL, Nice conspiracy theory. Just one problem. Who do you think is going to fine him? Fraser works for TSN, not the NHL. He's simply commenting on bench minors from his point of view as a FORMER ref. He has called out current refs calls as wrong numerous times this year. Just because he supports this call against Vancouver he suddenly has no credibility in your eyes? Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotecanuck Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 LOL, Nice conspiracy theory. Just one problem. Who do you think is going to fine him? Fraser works for TSN, not the NHL. He's simply commenting on bench minors from his point of view as a FORMER ref. He has called out current refs calls as wrong numerous times this year. Just because he supports this call against Vancouver he suddenly has no credibility in your eyes? Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 When did I say he has no credibility? And I'm pretty sure he can still get in trouble. Notice how no sports analyst ever calls out the refs blatantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotecanuck Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Seriously? Who do you expect to fine him? Once again, he works for TS, and he's called out the refs on bad call repeatedly all season. Go back and read his columns. If he thinks a bad call has been made he says so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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