NewYorkYankees8771 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Obviously there are great NHL'ers who have played NCAA hockey, but it just seems that in todays modern era that Toews is one of the best if not the best. Im sure the fact that he was able to graduate from high school in grade 11 and start college a year early must have helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Mauviette75 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 As of now, I would argue it's Martin St-Louis. he's shown year after year what an amazing player he is. his numbers are better than Toews, and he's sustained them for a much longer period of time. it's amazing to think he was undrafted... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd71 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Adam Oates, Ken Dryden just to scratch the surface. Joey Mullen. There are lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Mauviette75 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Adam Oates, Ken Dryden just to scratch the surface. Joey Mullen. There are lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 As of now, I would argue it's Martin St-Louis. he's shown year after year what an amazing player he is. his numbers are better than Toews, and he's sustained them for a much longer period of time. it's amazing to think he was undrafted... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd71 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 It's hard to argue Ken Dryden. I know he's before a lot of guys on this board's time but he was pretty spectacular in his day. And Oates was awesome as well. Maybe the second best playmaker of all-time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Dryden is pretty hard to match. You could argue he was on a stacked Canadiens team. But... 6 Stanley Cups Conn Smythe Trophy Winner Calder Trophy Winner 5 time Vezina Trophy Winner Ranked 25th by the Hockey News as one of the best players ever. Fun fact. He was actually drafted by Boston in 1964, then traded to Montreal on the same day, so his agent told him he was drafted by Montreal. He didn't know until the mid 70's that he was originally drafted by Boston! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kane Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Toews is a Blackhawk...he will go down in history as being nothing but pure evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderTwinPowers Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Toews is a Blackhawk...he will go down in history as being nothing but pure evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kane Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I think everyone on this board respects Toews as one of the best all around players in today's game. he'll always be a villain, but even then he doesn't play that part as well as Patty Kane does. I'd personally rate Toews as the 3rd best center in the league right behind Crosby and Stamkos IMO, given his amazing defensive awareness I'd put him ahead of guys like Malkin, Henrik, and Tavares. Who are all primarily just offensive guys. (As is Stamkos but his Gpg is just ridiculas the last 4 years, that fact he scored 60 and is on pace in an 82 game season this year for 62 is just unreal in today's game) I'd say he's very compatible to Pavel Datsyuk but probably better from a leadership point of view. One of the best players and captains in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gumballthechewy Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Dryden is pretty hard to match. You could argue he was on a stacked Canadiens team. But... 6 Stanley Cups Conn Smythe Trophy Winner Calder Trophy Winner 5 time Vezina Trophy Winner Ranked 25th by the Hockey News as one of the best players ever. Fun fact. He was actually drafted by Boston in 1964, then traded to Montreal on the same day, so his agent told him he was drafted by Montreal. He didn't know until the mid 70's that he was originally drafted by Boston! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Obviously the answer is Mike Milbury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderTwinPowers Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I was just being sarcastic, hence the purple font. If you read the PGT from the last Chicago/Vancouver game there are plenty of Canucks fans who think Toews is terrible, classless, and a puke. Some went so far as to say he's not a very good captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I have never liked Toews for some reason, but he is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkYankees8771 Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 Im sure Toews being a canadian attending Shattuck St. Mary's for high school hockey must have helped a lot, for one year of high school hockey at Shattuck's (including tuition, boarding and hockey fees, it comes down to over $50, 000 just for one year) so Toews must have gotten a scholarship or had parents who had the money to pay for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kane Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I'm aware you were being sarcastic, the big blush is a pretty easy give away. I was mostly just wanting to say how I definitely respect him. As for speaking for other Canuck fans that was probably a mistake, chances are half the people saying those things about him are the same half wits that want to trade 80% of our team, fire AV and Gillis, and completely rebuild after the Nucks lose a couple games in a row. Anyone who can't see him for the generational talent he is probably doesnt know to much about hockey. I'd like to see him cut back on whining to the refs so much, but he's the captain that's his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Will Jonathon Toews go down? .. some folks confirm he will .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 If you include goaltenders, ex-Canuck and Michigan Tech Huskies grad and NHL hall of famer Tony Esposito should be given very strong consideration as the greatest NCAA developed player all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanNuck Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Toews could potentially go down as a candidate for top 10 greatest hockey players of all time. You got to hand it to him for reaching Triple Gold at such a young age, even captaining his team to a Cup and winning the Conn Smythe, and still having much runway before him. If he wins them all over again and maintains such well-rounded play, I think he'll contend for a spot next to Lemieux, Gretzky, Orr, and the likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Dryden is pretty hard to match. You could argue he was on a stacked Canadiens team. But... 6 Stanley Cups Conn Smythe Trophy Winner Calder Trophy Winner 5 time Vezina Trophy Winner Ranked 25th by the Hockey News as one of the best players ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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