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#1 Scottish⑦Canuck

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 03:13 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk...merica-21679053

Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez has died, his vice-president has announced.
Mr Chavez had not appeared in public since he returned to Venezuela last month after cancer treatment in Cuba.
An emotional Nicolas Maduro made the announcement on Tuesday evening, flanked by leading Venezuelan political and military leaders.
Earlier, he said the 58-year-old Venezuelan leader had a new, severe respiratory infection and had entered "his most difficult hours".
One of the most visible, vocal and controversial leaders in Latin America, the former army paratrooper won the presidency in 1998 and had most recently won another six-year presidential term in October 2012.

Last May, he said he had recovered from an unspecified cancer, after undergoing surgery and chemotherapy in 2011 and a further operation in February 2012.
However, in December 2012, he announced he needed further cancer surgery in Cuba, and named his Vice-President, Nicolas Maduro, as his preferred successor should the need arise.
Mr Chavez remained out of public view, finally returning to Venezuela in February.



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Posted 05 March 2013 - 04:37 PM

althought a "hard to deal with" leader Chaves did something for Venezuela. good or bad before him the country was a "giant playground" of USA and European countries. He tried do something on his way but itīs never easy because the "Latino" comunity demands a strong and well dedicated leader/president urging for their needs and changes...


Chaves said "no" to USA intervention, bouth Russian weapons, somebody may say that Venezuela became the "new Cuba for Russia" and it isnīt a false statement...

the Latin America is changing on our way, people are recognizing that the bad stereotype of "Latino" isnīt true. the "Latinos" arenīt composed only by illegal imigrants, drugdealers or prostitutes. speak Spanish or Portuguese doesnīt mean you are inferior comparing to people speaking english, french or germany...


Chaves did his last act allowing Venezuela enter on MERCOSUL (South America Trade/Military Alliance) and now our block is becoming stronger and solid, Venezuelans will now be able to make tourinsm in Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile etc with only their IDs. even European Union want trade with us while NAFTA is composed by USA exploring Mexico and Canada. sooner even Mexico will say "so long NAFTA" and will join our group...


what will happen to our neighbor is uncertain, maybe Maduro will continue Chaves government, maybe the Military will take over for another era of "Iron fists", maybe there will be another election. who knows...


now letīs just say "ok Chaves. you did your mission. the future belongs to your people. Venezuelans..."



but from Venezuela, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Uruguay, Mexico, Panama. weīre all Latinos, weīre pride to be Latinos, weīre all brothers speaking Portuguese or Spanish. weīre neighbours...
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 04:48 PM

^ As long as there's lots of oil money Venezuela will be ok

Well, as ok as it gets in a completely socialist country. I find it shocking there's still any "oligarchs" in the country for the chavistas to complain about.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 04:59 PM

The CIA claims another victim.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 05:01 PM

And not a day too soon
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 05:27 PM

The CIA claims another victim.


Yes but now a bunch of agents for the Cuban DI will get an early promotion!
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:01 PM

"The results of the Chavez government's economic policies have been a 50% drop in poverty rate, from 49% of the households in early 1998 to 24% in 2009. Similarly, the extreme poverty rate dropped more than two-thirds, from 21% of households in 1998 to 6% in 2009. Whiles most of this drop in poverty is attributable to social policies that benefit the poor, much of is also traceable to dramatic drop in unemployment, which feel by nearly fall, from around 14.5% in early 1999 to about 7% in late 2010. Some countries that pursue neo-liberal economic policies have also achieved lower poverty rates, but usually at the expense of greater inequality. In Venezuela, though, inequality, as measure by the "Gini coefficient" dropped from 0.49 in 1998 to 0.39 in 2010, one of the lowest levels in Latin America."

An assesment of Venezuela's Bolivarian Revolution at Twelve Years (via foucaulthehater)
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:23 PM

after all of the downplaying of his poor health. :(
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:33 PM

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While the "western media" celebrates this as the death of a tyrant.

Best of luck to the Venezuelan people. Chavez was a Commy but he still wasn't half as bad as some dictators on this planet, or as bad as the hardcore elite of the West.

Edited by key2thecup, 05 March 2013 - 06:37 PM.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:37 PM

"The results of the Chavez government's economic policies have been a 50% drop in poverty rate, from 49% of the households in early 1998 to 24% in 2009. Similarly, the extreme poverty rate dropped more than two-thirds, from 21% of households in 1998 to 6% in 2009. Whiles most of this drop in poverty is attributable to social policies that benefit the poor, much of is also traceable to dramatic drop in unemployment, which feel by nearly fall, from around 14.5% in early 1999 to about 7% in late 2010. Some countries that pursue neo-liberal economic policies have also achieved lower poverty rates, but usually at the expense of greater inequality. In Venezuela, though, inequality, as measure by the "Gini coefficient" dropped from 0.49 in 1998 to 0.39 in 2010, one of the lowest levels in Latin America."

An assesment of Venezuela's Bolivarian Revolution at Twelve Years (via foucaulthehater)


Except they only were able to do that with the help of massive oil exports. Their government worker heavy system is not sustainable without them.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:04 PM

Oil well!!
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:35 PM

Won't be missed.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:48 PM

RIP greatest man ever.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 08:00 PM

Why do I think how he looks like Ceasar Romero?

Because I don't know what Hugo Chavez looks like.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 09:08 PM

Many people loved him.

RIP.

Edited by Special Ed, 05 March 2013 - 09:08 PM.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:22 PM

A man who stood up to the US of A.

A rarity.

Respect and RIP.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:46 PM

A man who stood up to the US of A.

A rarity.

Respect and RIP.


A man who tried to crush any opposition in his country, a man who tried to take over the country via coup, a man who altered his own constitution so he could hold office for longer, a man who nationalized the nation's entire industry and jacked up the oil prices 100x? That guy?

If nothing else, I've got some anecdotes from Venezuelan friends on FB. They are not missing Hugo at all right now.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:58 PM

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:59 PM

Very polarizing figure.
On one hand he is the authoritarian who suppressed any who opposed him.
On the other, he diverted many a dollars towards helping the poor.

RIP
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:01 AM

A man who tried to crush any opposition in his country, a man who tried to take over the country via coup, a man who altered his own constitution so he could hold office for longer, a man who nationalized the nation's entire industry and jacked up the oil prices 100x? That guy?

If nothing else, I've got some anecdotes from Venezuelan friends on FB. They are not missing Hugo at all right now.



Care to explain how that's possible?
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:01 AM

Our governments and media made him seem like a far worse leader than he actually was. Love or hate his politics he was a man not afraid to stand up to Western powers to do what he thought was best for his people. The man will be a model for bravery for generations. RIP.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:13 AM

RIP greatest man ever.



I have a few friends from Venezuela that would heavily disagree with you
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:15 AM

Care to explain how that's possible?


I meant 10 times, my mistake.

In any case, I still think democracy can work in Venezuela. Chavez, in terms of authoritarian rule, is that typical dictator who polarized the people, made constitutional changes to stay in power, put his power to use through undemocratic means and quashed any public or political opposition.

People here seem to just appreciate him for standing up to the U.S. I certainly hope people won't be saying the same thing when Fidel Castro dies.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:16 AM

A man who tried to crush any opposition in his country, a man who tried to take over the country via coup, a man who altered his own constitution so he could hold office for longer, a man who nationalized the nation's entire industry and jacked up the oil prices 100x? That guy?

If nothing else, I've got some anecdotes from Venezuelan friends on FB. They are not missing Hugo at all right now.


I take it you are an avid watcher of the corporate media....and believe Obama actually has political power.

Edited by Rinaldo36, 06 March 2013 - 12:17 AM.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:24 AM

I take it you are an avid watcher of the corporate media....and believe Obama actually has political power.


I don't know what you're implying, but I think it's wrong to use an ad hominem argument against someone. We're talking about Hugo's legacy, and for myself, his legacy to Venezuela (which matters more than what we think of him).

How much time have you spent (with people or through personal time) on the Venezuelan landscape?
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 01:41 AM

I don't know what you're implying, but I think it's wrong to use an ad hominem argument against someone. We're talking about Hugo's legacy, and for myself, his legacy to Venezuela (which matters more than what we think of him).

How much time have you spent (with people or through personal time) on the Venezuelan landscape?

I followed a few Venezuelan porn stars on Twitter who weeped over the loss, therefore Chavez was awesome and Venezuela was better off. Think you know better than me? Think again!
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:35 AM

RIP to an anti-NWO stalwart.

You`ll be missed Hugo.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 11:49 AM

People here seem to just appreciate him for standing up to the U.S. I certainly hope people won't be saying the same thing when Fidel Castro dies.


But if Castro dies and Cuba opens up to the US market, sugar and cigar prices will go through the roof and Canadians will lose a cheap vacation spot not overrun by Americans.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 11:53 AM

A man who stood up to the US of A.

A rarity.

Respect and RIP.


Dictators are good, just as long as they stand up to the USA and Western powers.

God bless Kim Jong-Un!
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 10:32 AM

First My Beloved Kim Jong Il and now Hewggie :sadno: there are so few of us at the annual conventions now. Who am I supposed to prank Ahmadinejad with now? Al-assad? Ha that guy looks like he should be selling insurance at Geico and don't get me started on Morsi - the guy actually snorts when he laughs can you believe it? Why do the good have to die so young it almost make me wonder if it is worth being General-Admiral Democratically elected President-for-life. :(
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