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#1 Pasific Coluseum

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 02:49 AM

Is it time to pull the plug so to speak on Jordan? He looks so tiny on the ice. In puck battles he loses the puck so easily. He's not exactly lighting it up for a prospect with scoring potential. He's speedy and improving defensively. I'm afraid to say I don't think Mr. Shroeder is going to turn into Nazem Kadri. I don't see the point of putting Jordan on the 4th line either.

I wouldn't be opposed to Shroeder being dangled as trade bait at the deadline. I really think he will struggle in the playoffs because of his size. I just wished Shroeder turned out to be a Paul Kariya type.

I want to see what Steve Pinozzato can do. I hope Canucks send Jordan down and bring Steve up soon.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 02:56 AM

Kadri gets put in opportunities to succeed, he's being helped along, but you're comparing a 7th overall pick to a 22nd

as long as the sedins are still here rookies pretty much never get to be a breakout ppg player on the Canucks because sedins get all the offensive zone time and take up 2/3 of the top line and burrows pretty much always ends up being the 1/3 and kesler has chemistry with no one so it's either be a checker or get put on the 4th line/scratched.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 02:57 AM

there isn't really a good fit for jordan on the team.

Can't play with the sedins.
He could slot into the second line with kesler and booth, but that spot should go to kassian for development.
Third line is clicking right now with the higgins/hansen/raymond idea.
Fourth line is supposed to be a checkin' line. he needs to be put with players he can play with.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 02:59 AM

How do you say shroeder 3 times? It's Schroeder... Also Pinizzotto.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:03 AM

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:16 AM

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Silly fans never learn.

So we trade Schroeder, which would be our fourth 1st round pick in 6 years, and then he goes on and lights it up for another team.

Seriously are you not learning from what has happened in the past few years? You don't give up on young talent before they get a chance to prove themselves. Unless we're getting young talent like a Johansson or Couturier back.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:21 AM

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Actually, no, Schroeder hasn't been given enought time to succeed. He's on the fourth line playing with plugs. He can't do much with that. That's not how you develop players with skill properly.

Edited by Canuck or Die, 06 March 2013 - 03:27 AM.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:22 AM

yep. he started off so well at the beginning the the season, and now we have to get rid of him. Just another night.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:23 AM

Actually, no, Schneider hasn't been given enought time to succeed. He's on the fourth line playing with plugs. He can't do much with that. That's not how you develop players with skill properly.


So I guess luongo won the starting goaltending job for AV to demote Schneider to the 4th line :bigblush:
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:59 AM

JS is playing with the team right now because both Kesler and Malholtra are out of the line-up. It's as simple as that. Once Kesler returns, or if there's a trade that sends another bonafide 2nd or 3rd line centre here, he will be sent down to the minors to continue his development.

As what was suggested before rightfully by DeNiro, the only way JS is sent packing to another NHL team is if another youthful player is sent back in return.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:07 AM

silly comparison, Kadri has been given every chance to succeed on a pretty mediocre team. Schroeder has had to earn his playing time and honestly i like what i see from him. He works his ass off every shift! If he was 4 inches taller he would AV's favourite player cause of his work ethic and tenacity. He is always back defensively and while he isnt the biggest i dont really see him getting shoved around as much as you would expect. When he settles down the points will start to come and once a few bounces go his way things are gonna start looking good for him. I wasnt able to watch the whole game tonight, but there was one play that stood out to me where he nearly beat a defender who was in the middle of his zone to a puck along the boards and he started from the blue line and after the puck got cleared he hauled ass and was back defensively before his wingers. Look at a Martin St. Louis, it took him ages to get to the pro's and when he did it took him a lot of time to adjust. If we give up on this guy this early into his development we are gonna sorely regret it and in five years we will no doubt end up seeing the "Look how good Schroeder is! and _________ sucks! That was a horrible trade we should/thank goodness we fired MG!" posts from people that called for his head after 20 games into a shortened season.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:14 AM

what an awful thread, he's been doing great. he's a 2 way center, not an art ross candidate.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:33 AM

JS did well with Raymond and Hansen - question is if not everybody would do well on the third line as long as #21 and #36 is aboard.
Maybe Higgins should be moved back to the 2nd line instead of JS - to give the third line a center, and to give the second line some scoring touch.
Maybe Higgins could help Kassian and Booth light it up a bit, after spending some time with the sidewinders on the third line..?
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:35 AM

Pull the plug is the wrong term.

i would not be opposed to seeing JS back on the Wolves. But I actually don't mind him on the 4th line. Its a good exercise to make him skate and check. As long as he can centre the 2knd PP which uses his offensive skills!. He did not look bad on the point on the first PP btw, but thats Bieksa's job when he's back.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:42 AM

I'm sorry, did you see him push Douglas Murray off of the puck last night in the offensive zone? Duggles is 6'3", 240lbs, and he got pushed over by a player you describe as looking "tiny on the ice." The reason that Schroeder is playing on the fourth line isn't because he's doing poorly, it's because AV trusts him to play there over a converted Raymond or Burrows. Remember, on the road the Canucks first change, so he's facing the opponents 1st or 2nd lines when taking a face-off. That's confidence from the coach, not punishment. Not to mention he's driving the power-play right now. If they really thought he couldn't play they'd have brought Ebbett back for fourth line duties.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:50 AM

He's never going to light it up playing with Sestito, Weise. He didn't even get a real shot at real top 6 minutes (16+min). He should have had a shot with Burrows and Raymond or Booth on the 2nd line, with real offensive player.

Sedin-Sedin-Kassian
Booth/Raymond-Schroeder-Burrows
Higgins-Lapierre-Hansen


I dont get the raymond and burrows experiment on center when you have a real offensive center in Schroeder. It's too obvious, yet AV seems to want to complicate things
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:28 AM

Remember even the Sedins took a few years to develop. Schroeder needs some time to develop and to add some strength.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:39 AM

Schroeder has shown that he belongs when given linemates he fits in with.Kassian is the same as are most young men adjusting to the highest level of hockey.

He will mature and become more effective and be used in the 3c position when the opponent is the right fit.

I liked his stint on PP d .That shows the club recognises his abilities.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:46 AM

Hard to produce when you are playing ten minutes a game, mostly with Tito and Weise.

Also his PP time is spent on the point, where he is completely unfamiliar and unsuitable for.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:35 AM

Lu, Schroeder, Ballard, 1st to FLA for Campbell, Bjugstad and a 1st then

Edited by ALTtimegreat, 06 March 2013 - 07:54 AM.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:19 AM

Under AV, prospects never shine.


Especially when they are suspects, not prospects. AV has given him far more chances than his play has warranted. Two goals in one game, 19 other games without a sniff. Useless on the point, won't shoot. No place on a good team for him.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:27 AM

Good idea, then we will have two centers on our roster.



Sedin--Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Lapierre-Hansen
Raymond-..........-Kassian
Higgins.......---Sestito/Weise. <_<
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:29 AM

Says more about his linemates. Sestito had two clear breakaways, and couldn't bury either one. Weise is a total plug and he definitely belongs in the AHL.

The issue I have is we have plugs playing on the 4th line, instead of players we've been developing who might actually have something to contribute.

We need our prospects to fill in holes, and we seem to be a long way from that.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:31 AM

TRADE SCHROEDER FOR VOLPATTI ! little super-stars don't make it with AV (Grabner, Hodgson ... doesn't he look good with Buffalo ... on the second line ?) Stan Smyl would definitely approve !!!
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:36 AM

So I guess luongo won the starting goaltending job for AV to demote Schneider to the 4th line :bigblush:

This doesn't even make sense??
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:43 AM

I think alot of people here feel we need to cater to these young prospects. I think it's the oposite, they need to show that they can learn and play in different situations that they may not be acustom to if they want to suceed and stick with our team, cause as you know almost no one is guaranteed a specific roll or spot on this team. If you're suposed to be a top prospect and can't make it work on the 2,3 or 4th line, well then......that pretty much speaks for it self.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:06 AM

its the hodgson trade all over again a GREAT rookie, first round pick, and AV traded him and now he is good enough to be with the sedins or kesler
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:06 AM

JS should be playing in the 2nd line but idiot AV puts him in the 4th line where he isn't developing. Send him down to the wolves if he's only getting 4th line minutes.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:10 AM

its the hodgson trade all over again a GREAT rookie, first round pick, and AV traded him and now he is good enough to be with the sedins or kesler

AV never traded anyone, the GM does that. Know what your talking about before you try to throw someone under the bus.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:12 AM

He has shown a decent two way game. His point production has dropped off. But to have him on the 4th line is pointless.

Send him to Chicago allow him to play top min even strength, pp and pk. Its a waste to have him here and be utilized like this. With a key injury to a top 6 center and Schroeder is on the 4th line that should say enough that right now its just not worth having him on the team.

Maybe Pinizzotto can be given a shot as he fits the bill as a gritty player on the 4th line and plays center. Im not sold on Lapierre being our 3rd line center going into the playoffs as i think we could use an upgrade but thats my opinion.

Either give schroeder a chance to be on 2nd line till kesler is back or allow him to play those kind of minutes in the AHL. 4th line minutes are a waste
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