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Jordan Shroeder Has Been Given Enough Time To Showcase His Talents!

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He's a rookie and he's playing tough minutes. He will be great in a couple seasons. Right now his main focus should be on not hurting the team defensively and just getting comfortable in the NHL. I feel Canucks management is developing him quite well giving him looks in all types of game situations. He's an undersized rookie who has been thrown into the deep end he's gonna tread water for a bit before he learns to swim. Don't give up on him just yet.

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Typical cdc...zero patience.!...JS is not lighting it up,but he;s not really hurting the team either..The focus should be more on our underachieving vets.Not the 4th line rookie.

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Silly fans never learn.

So we trade Schroeder, which would be our fourth 1st round pick in 6 years, and then he goes on and lights it up for another team.

Seriously are you not learning from what has happened in the past few years? You don't give up on young talent before they get a chance to prove themselves. Unless we're getting young talent like a Johansson or Couturier back.

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Yes. Lets trade Schroeder. He really hasn't shown enough to keep that spot ON THE FOURTH LINE!

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Also his PP time is spent on the point, where he is completely unfamiliar and unsuitable for.

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Silly fans never learn.

So we trade Schroeder, which would be our fourth 1st round pick in 6 years, and then he goes on and lights it up for another team.

Seriously are you not learning from what has happened in the past few years? You don't give up on young talent before they get a chance to prove themselves. Unless we're getting young talent like a Johansson or Couturier back.

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Yes. Lets trade Schroeder. He really hasn't shown enough to keep that spot ON THE FOURTH LINE!

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I think a Booth-Schroeder-Kassian line would be sick, and Lapierre with Sestito will cause some trouble, c'mon AV, get with it.

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Yes. Lets trade Schroeder. He really hasn't shown enough to keep that spot ON THE FOURTH LINE!

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AV would have benched CoHo for that. If he had turned the puck over with all that fancy dangling, there could have been an odd man rush the other way. Totally unnacceptable on an AV team.

Face it, AV coaches "always stay on the defensive side of the puck" because he has a phobia agianst goving up goals even if that means they have trouble scoring themselves. CHicago "cheats" on teh offensive side of the puck which leads to numerous golden scoring opportunities. THey trust that their D and goalies can bail them out when it goes badly and that their forwards are fast enough and smart enough to read the play and getback if trouble develops. AV isn't a rrisk taker which is one reason our breakouts are deplorable, slow and readable. Nothing creative or determined to be a "cheat" play is tolerated.

Even the Sedins generate offence from the deep cycle which is defensively "safe". Even then, when they have drawn teh defending team deep because of their cycle, they seldom feed toe wide open point for a shot because that has the risk of being missed or intercepted and they might get trapped deep (and are slow skaters). Instead, they sometimes cycle for 40 - 60 seconds, intotal control fo the puck without generating a single shot or scoring opportunity.

AV has not created a run-and-gun team (Chicago) and he has note created a defensive specialist team (Nashville). They are not big and mean enough to follow the Boston model either. He has created s mix of styles that places players in roles they are not suited for (Schroeder).

CoHo wanted out because he knew he would never be able to show what he could do offensively under AV. Even when Kesler was injured and not producing, he got 0 chance to be more than a 3rd line checker. AV is telling MG he needs a bigger more experienced center by playing Schroeder on the 4th. Just like he told MG he needed Garrison, Kassian, Booth, HIggins, etc.

WIth AV it's always the personnel that need to change.

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Hard to produce when you are playing ten minutes a game, mostly with Tito and Weise.

Also his PP time is spent on the point, where he is completely unfamiliar and unsuitable for.

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I'd like to see him get top minutes in Chicago, but we need centers right now and we don't really have any better options. He's responsible defensively and can chip in on the powerplay. People seem to forget that Hodgson spent much of his first season with the Canucks centering the fourth line. It's about getting experience and learning how to be a pro, the offensive skills will get there.

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lets pull the plug on kassian too. As I recall they are both from the same draft year. Pull the plug on him too. Thanks.

Silly people.

Nothing Against Jordan Schroeder, but our team is really lacking a powerplay. Losing Salo and Ehrhoff is a huge blow to Canucks powerplay.

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Face it, AV coaches "always stay on the defensive side of the puck" because he has a phobia agianst goving up goals even if that means they have trouble scoring themselves. CHicago "cheats" on teh offensive side of the puck which leads to numerous golden scoring opportunities.

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Silly fans never learn.

So we trade Schroeder, which would be our fourth 1st round pick in 6 years, and then he goes on and lights it up for another team.

Seriously are you not learning from what has happened in the past few years? You don't give up on young talent before they get a chance to prove themselves. Unless we're getting young talent like a Johansson or Couturier back.

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It's ridiculous that we have 2 elite goaltenders, a selke winner, 2 art ross trophy winners, one of the best d-cores in the league and we still have to play a defensive type of game and not let any players have any creativity offensively.

It would be nice to have a coach who can make some new strategies offensively, we shouldn't have to worry about the defensive side of the game as much as we do with the players we have.

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TRADE SCHROEDER FOR VOLPATTI ! little super-stars don't make it with AV (Grabner, Hodgson ... doesn't he look good with Buffalo ... on the second line ?) Stan Smyl would definitely approve !!!

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I gave you a plus one, and I think you are dead right.

The problem is do you dare match Booth (who is a 3rd wheel in terms of being defensively effective) and rookies Kassian and Schroeder against Thornton, Marleau and Couture? Well, physically anyway Booth and Kass are easily the best in our line up to match size and speed wise. But asking Schroeder to take a defensive draw in our zone (as a rookie) against 225 lb 1000 point Joe Thornton is a big ask. AV, understandably, likes 215 lb experienced Lapierre better in that situation So Booth/Lappy/Kassian has drawn together and are playing a Defensive role.

And FTR; Raymond has been both the better play maker and scorer in comparison with Schroeder YTD. And Hansen and Higgins better offensively than Booth or Kassian. So Raymond FTM won a chance to centre them and they're playing "Hodgson" style sheltered minutes.

It still allows at least Schroeder to play against a match up he can handle at this stage. Yes he would be better suited to 2knd line, but he still deserves to be on the team and for the moment match ups sometimes dictate its the best role we can offer!

No slag whatsoever on your post Opmac; but to all on this thread jumping off cliff's; :picard:

I don't know why he's playing with two plugs on the fourth line in Tom Sestito and Dale Weise. I don't know why Maxim Lapierre's playing with David Booth and Zack Kassian.

Booth needs a player that can dish him the puck mid-stride busting down the wing. Lapierre's can't distribute the puck. Schroeder can.

Schroeder needs a player that can win the puck battles for him down low. Kassian can do that and move to the front of the net.

See they all compliment each other.

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Offensive system = start Sedins in the offensive zone 75-80% of the time.

I would consider that an offensive strategy...

Your giving the bulk of the offensive opportunity to your top line (more than anyone else in the league). The rest of the team is going to have to try to tread water in less desirable opportunities to compensate.

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