Jordan Shroeder Has Been Given Enough Time To Showcase His Talents!

[Smashian Kassian]

I liked his stint on PP d .That shows the club recognises his abilities.

[Smashian Kassian]

I don't know why he's playing with two plugs on the fourth line in Tom Sestito and Dale Weise. I don't know why Maxim Lapierre's playing with David Booth and Zack Kassian.

Booth needs a player that can dish him the puck mid-stride busting down the wing. Lapierre's can't distribute the puck. Schroeder can.

Schroeder needs a player that can win the puck battles for him down low. Kassian can do that and move to the front of the net.

See they all compliment each other.

[Clark Kent]

the Raymond Schroeder Hansen line was sick.

[BuretoMogilny]

Are people on here that stupid?

I see comments about AV not allowing players to play offensively. Hmm lets think about that for a second.

1. He have 2 Art Ross trophy winners on this team

2. A 41 goal scoring selke winner

3. One of the highest scoring defensive corps in the league

4. Two years ago highest scoring team in the league and SCF appearance

But he doesn't let them play offensively? You want the west coast express, exciting hell ya but 5 goals against every night, thats a way to win in the NHL. Lol

Those who are stating he doesn't give his players rope have never played a minute of competitive hockey in their lives. Anyone who has knows one simple FACT.

Offense starts in your own zone. Its coverage, and counter attack, and being patient, when the other team exposes itself. It doesn't come from loosey goosey stretch passes. We don't have Pavel Bure on this team anymore folks. And moreoever, defense systems are too damn good to not pick those off and counter back and its in your net.

It would do a hell of alot of people on here some good, to strap on some skates, learn to play the game and then make comments, because its clear as day alot of people have no clue what the hell they are talking about.

[Kack Zassian]

The manner in which they are used inflates those numbers. AS you yousefl said, they get 80% of toe O zone starts. That should lead to some pretty impressive for and against numbers unless they were completely useless.

The team as a whole has shown it struggles to score in the playoff environment. That to me indicates the system needs to be changed. Adding gifted players like Schroeder to the top 6 could help address this. Letting Kassian learn to be effective in the top 6 could address this. Instead, AV drops Schroeder to the 4th even with Kesler out and Kassian sees duty wherever between the 3rd and 4th lines. Who's going to protect the Sedins in the playoffs without drastically affecting their effectiveness? Is Lappy really going to be used to be a set up guy to pitch in offensively over Schroeder in the playoffs? How many Defensive-minded centeres does AV need? ...he has Selke award winning Kesler, Lappy and now Schroeder.

Come playoffs, how much of a factor will they be if needed in the top 6 role when they haven't had a chance to hone those skills all year.

[Kack Zassian]

He's playing with 4th liners. He isn't in a position to showcase his talent.

[VCanucks69]

It took kesler 3-5 years developing before he came into his own.

You guys scream when they dont give guys a chance and when they do your ready to throw them under the bus in 10 games, so I think a little patience is in order. My opinion it takes about 3 years before you know what type of player your getting consistantly anyways, so give the kid a break he has had nice flashes of potential.

[Kack Zassian]

And how has that worked when the going gets tough? Same system for 3 years now and it has gotten less and less effective even in the regular season.

Your acknowledgement of this strategy just confirms AV"s inability to actually coach an offensive strategy that deals with this and spreads the offence thorughout the lineup. It also shows that teh Sedins aren't as offensively gifted as the numbers perhaps indicate because they are given very preferential minutes and opportunities to anyone else on the team and basically in the league.

[jigsaw99]

for those saying Kadri is only succeeding because he's playing with opportunities on a crappy team need to wake up and smell the roses.

1. Toronto has more points in the standings than the Canucks and their top 9 offensive player is now matchable to Canucks current lineup.

2. Kadri plays on the 2nd line NOT on the 1st with JVR and Kessel but with Kuliemen/Graboski. Kadri has about as many point as those two combined.

3. With Kesler out, you would think this is the perfect time to give Schroeder that opportunity but our rookie hating coach prefers to give Raymond and Lappy "less points than Schreoder" on the top 3 lines.

[Smashian Kassian]

for those saying Kadri is only succeeding because he's playing with opportunities on a crappy team need to wake up and smell the roses.

1. Toronto has more points in the standings than the Canucks and their top 9 offensive player is now matchable to Canucks current lineup.

2. Kadri plays on the 2nd line NOT on the 1st with JVR and Kessel but with Kuliemen/Graboski. Kadri has about as many point as those two combined.

3. With Kesler out, you would think this is the perfect time to give Schroeder that opportunity but our rookie hating coach prefers to give Raymond and Lappy "less points than Schreoder" on the top 3 lines.

[Kack Zassian]

3. With Kesler out, you would think this is the perfect time to give Schroeder that opportunity but our rookie hating coach prefers to give Raymond and Lappy "less points than Schreoder" on the top 3 lines.

[jigsaw99]

Schroeder has had 4 games under 12 minutes this season, and only 1 of those was under 10 minutes.

Hes also averaged 3 minutes a game on the PP (24 seconds/game less than Burrows).

All this, despite 1 assist in his last 11 games.

Wanna tell me again about how our coach hates rookies?

[jigsaw99]

Wanna tell me again about how our coach hates rookies?

[CRAZY_4_NAZZY]

Some people don't realize is that AV coached in Manitoba and pretty much primed the likes of Ryan Kesler, Alex Burrows, Jannick Hansen, Mason Raymond, Kevin Bieksa, and Alex Edler. Either he has coached them through the AHL or from the first year they broke out in the club. AV is not a rookie hater perse. But I would suggest that he is more inclined to go to the players who he knows has got it done in the past and who are getting it done now.

IMO he did at points allow Grabner to shine with Kesler and Raymond and had a great stint with them. He may have not been on great terms with Hodgson but understood his talent and used him in the right situations to succeed and he did. He even a year before allowed Hodgson to absorb the NHL experience on the fourth line and a year later, he broke out and why?? Because Cody was able to finally adjust and understand the speed of the game. The mental durability it takes to go through an NHL grind of the season. SHirokov , well that was a one hit wonder with him in the preseason.

But look at rookies now like Schneider, Tanev, (former Cody Hodgson), and now Jordan Schroeder. he is priming them appropriately. Just because you are skilled and a great player means you automatically get slayed as the go to guy. Look at Burrows, Sedins, Kesler, Edler, Bieksa and Schneider and more fought for their ranks through AV's system. In regards to those who are sayhing AV is a rookie hater...he isn't. he just understands the game well enough when to expose them and when not to. AV is a smart coach and knows the game quite well.

[Honky Cat]

Shirokov player of the game one game and gets benched for the rest of the game after one period for no reason.

Same with Grabner who gets benched for no reason

Hodgson after winning rookie of the year in January gets demoted to 4th line

[Dildo Faggins]

I wish Jensen could take Schroeder's place.

[Kack Zassian]

he plays with Siesto and Weise.

[Kack Zassian]

Shirokov player of the game one game and gets benched for the rest of the game after one period for no reason.

Same with Grabner who gets benched for no reason

Hodgson after winning rookie of the year in January gets demoted to 4th line

[High Violet]

Under AV, prospects never shine.

[Kack Zassian]

You are so right it makes me depressed.

I hate the truth. But is it really AV? Maybe it's because the team is doing 'well', as in they've been in "win now" mode for the last few years that they don't really care so much about prospects.