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#1 yete

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:11 AM

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since the canucks have so many grinders on the team..........


lappy, higgins, hansen, kassian, booth who knows what this guy is?

ebbet, weise, sesito,

is there more?

basic structure of the canucks

1 scoring line


line 2 grinders

line 3 grinders

line 4 - skate around and do nothing
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#2 Kass9

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:12 AM

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and maybe you should consider changing your username to either "troll" or "dumbass"
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#3 Disaronno

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:14 AM

you should not drink and post.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:14 AM

since the canucks have so many grinders on the team..........


lappy, higgins, hansen, kassian, booth who knows what this guy is?

ebbet, weise, sesito,

is there more?

basic structure of the canucks

1 scoring line


line 2 grinders

line 3 grinders

line 4 - skate around and do nothing


Yes we have a first line then???? It's been like this for years that's why the twins get shut down so well in the playoffs because there it nothing to counter with.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:15 AM

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and maybe you should consider changing your username to either "troll" or "dumbass"


The pot calling the kettle?

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:21 AM

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It should be changed to the Vancouver Alain-Robots......
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:30 AM

Roll 4 lines of Colton Orr on bath salts
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:30 AM

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:31 AM

Grinders have a personality though. It's like I'm watching a team full of Marc Chouinards.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:34 AM

The pot calling the kettle?


And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon. Am I doing this right?

Edited by MaximYapierre, 08 March 2013 - 12:34 AM.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:40 AM

Wow maybe me bitching about signing or trading for a true sniper or 2 for the past 3 years is finally starting to sink in. Either goalie will do the job, if the right D core shows up all we really need is a sure shot. The Sedin's as much as we all love them are not always the sure shot anymore, and that leaves.........
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:34 AM

Yeah, the team's not really built for high-scoring games. Aside from the Sedins, it's not like there's really one guy with the skill to get it done consistently on the offensive side of things. Kesler's become more predictable, and the attack's been working on the rush to try to stuff one in from in tight in tonight's game. I can't figure out why Schroeder's on the 4th when Lapierre's got the 3rd line role with Booth and Kassian, when Jordan's passing may at least create chances offensively (and yet he's stuck with two 4th liners in Sestito and Weise). Also, not that they're not good but the 2nd line now (Higgins - Raymond - Hansen) is more of a 3rd and they shouldn't be relied upon offensively. Bieksa's injured, Edler's not playing well and the rest of the D (Hamhuis, Tanev, Garrison, Ballard) still need to figure out the combo to work... until AV shuffles them again.

I think for starters the units need to stay consistent until they can gel. That way, when Kesler and Bieksa come back the team would already be rolling.

For now I'd go (it's not great but that's what's there)

Danny - Hank - Burr (keep)
Higgins - Raymond - Hansen (it worked against L.A.)
Booth - Schroeder - Kassian (I think Jordan could really spark this line)
Sestito - Lapierre - Weise (also a win for this line; play maker goes back to the 3rd, banger back to 4th)

I'd also trade for Lubomir Visnovsky or someone like him (Streit?) to man the PP with Edler, then put Schroeder back on the point of the 2nd PP with Edler.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:40 AM

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:56 AM

Most of them are actually power forwards
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 05:15 AM

and we can get our cheerleaders from Surrey, great name for our new cheerleaders
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:08 AM

Yes those people are though and play very physical game but they also have the speed.... they can kill penalty so i think its all and equal... if you expect 4th line to score 30 goals then your out of your mind. I don't know how come you think hansen, higgins, nad booth are grinder.... they are just not playing their usual game..
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:49 AM

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But I don't see "grinders" as a bad thing. We had a team of "grinders" in '94 and nearly won the cup with them.

"Grinders", to me, implies that they're in there, grinding it out. Working hard. How can you have a problem with Hansen's game? Higgins has been a true asset in my mind. Lappy. Once the Booth floodgates open, I'd imagine we'll be rethinking that. He hasn't had much puck luck but when it comes, look out.

I don't make a negative connection with grinders.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:58 AM

ebbet a grinder LOL

That's AV's fault. He'd rather go with a sure grinders that does nothing extraordinary but makes no mistakes, tahn giving a shot to a talented player like hodgons, Kassian, Schroeder, Grabner, etc. and risking them making mistakes
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:58 AM

I think our problem is we don't have ENOUGH grinders IMO. Grinders win you cups and are not necessarily low scoring either.

Heart and soul players that will battle it out to the death, go into the dirty areas and have strong puck battles. We have very few of those kinds of players.

Higgins, Hansen, Burrows (to an extent, still think he is too soft), Kesler (to an extent as well, too many antics) and Kassian (not yet but he will develop into one).

Torres was one of those players, although I understand that his style of play and attention from the refs is why MG hesitated in re-signing him.

Guys like Brouwer, Hartnell, Simmonds, Richards and D Brown.

I know it will never happen, and he hates the team, but a guy like Clowe is EXACTLY what this team needs.

Edited by Rinaldo36, 08 March 2013 - 08:06 AM.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 10:23 AM

But I don't see "grinders" as a bad thing. We had a team of "grinders" in '94 and nearly won the cup with them.

"Grinders", to me, implies that they're in there, grinding it out. Working hard. How can you have a problem with Hansen's game? Higgins has been a true asset in my mind. Lappy. Once the Booth floodgates open, I'd imagine we'll be rethinking that. He hasn't had much puck luck but when it comes, look out.

I don't make a negative connection with grinders.


Most of my favorite players are grinders. Grinders will win you Cups too. Hansen is the ultimate grinder on this team. Alas grinders usually don't have very soft hands as was evidenced by Jannik last night on his breakaway (sigh). Oh well, "A" for effort, right?
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 10:28 AM

Lol at ur name for the fourth line. Line like our fourth line though... cant believe they've had such terrible puck luck
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 10:52 AM

Sadly, I agree
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:03 AM

Unfortunately this is all true. Too much depth grinders and not enough talent and gamebreakers.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 10:53 PM

If we had a team of grinders, we would not be having any discussions about how poorly they are performing this season. I think "floaters" is the term you are looking for.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 10:56 PM

But I don't see "grinders" as a bad thing. We had a team of "grinders" in '94 and nearly won the cup with them.

"Grinders", to me, implies that they're in there, grinding it out. Working hard. How can you have a problem with Hansen's game? Higgins has been a true asset in my mind. Lappy. Once the Booth floodgates open, I'd imagine we'll be rethinking that. He hasn't had much puck luck but when it comes, look out.

I don't make a negative connection with grinders.


Nor do I. But there are a few grinders and a bunch of floaters right now unfortunately.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:05 PM

Wow maybe me bitching about signing or trading for a true sniper or 2 for the past 3 years is finally starting to sink in. Either goalie will do the job, if the right D core shows up all we really need is a sure shot. The Sedin's as much as we all love them are not always the sure shot anymore, and that leaves.........


Hansen Higgins Raymond Kesler Burrows Edler Bieksa ....

What was your point again?
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:10 PM

Hansen Higgins Raymond Kesler Burrows Edler Bieksa ....

What was your point again?


Lol, none of them are snipers?
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:21 PM

Lol, none of them are snipers?


ALL of them score goals. Maybe not every night, but jeez. Give them some credit.

My point is that we have Secondary scoring.

Edited by Raiun, 08 March 2013 - 11:21 PM.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:28 PM

But I don't see "grinders" as a bad thing. We had a team of "grinders" in '94 and nearly won the cup with them.

"Grinders", to me, implies that they're in there, grinding it out. Working hard. How can you have a problem with Hansen's game? Higgins has been a true asset in my mind. Lappy. Once the Booth floodgates open, I'd imagine we'll be rethinking that. He hasn't had much puck luck but when it comes, look out.

I don't make a negative connection with grinders.


Yeah, but we need more legit offensive threats. There are no one-shot scorers on this team. Kes tries his best, but he's not there. There's a reason why this team makes so many goalies look like vezina candidates. 94 was a magical year, but we also had a heart and soul leader (linden) and one of the most exciting goal scorers of all-time in Bure. Clutch players.

Edited by The Brahma Bull, 08 March 2013 - 11:29 PM.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:45 PM

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But I don't see "grinders" as a bad thing. We had a team of "grinders" in '94 and nearly won the cup with them.

"Grinders", to me, implies that they're in there, grinding it out. Working hard. How can you have a problem with Hansen's game? Higgins has been a true asset in my mind. Lappy. Once the Booth floodgates open, I'd imagine we'll be rethinking that. He hasn't had much puck luck but when it comes, look out.

I don't make a negative connection with grinders.


We also had a scrappy 60 goal scorer. We also had Linden putting up 30+ goals, two other 20+ goal scorers, and a few more around 15, with loads of assists to boot.

Now we have David Booth going 20 games (including playoffs) with 1 goal, and people saying it's a matter of rust, or "puck luck." Last year, when he went a calendar month with scoring 2 or 3 goals, it was a different excuse. When he started the season on a 12 game goalless streak, it was something else.

We have Kesler who can't stay healthy.

We have Raymond who can't stand up.

We have an overpaid, under performing defense

We have grit, sure, but that grit is also COMPLETELY lacking in natural talent, except the Sedins. In 1994, our grit had talent and heart. Now we have grit, some talent, but very little heart.

Edited by GLASSJAW, 09 March 2013 - 12:12 AM.

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